I am a belgian dude, my girlfriend has fake boobs and a really bitchy attitude.
I was in eastern europe – Slovakia (near russia, poland, ukraine). The girls are really so much better there.
I think we should all skip to the girls who are nice to us and don’t *****!
Good luck guys
I will break up soon, and finally travel again
Parson on
November 30th, 2006 8:24 pm
A gem – hilarious! Psychotherapy is clearly the realm of nancyboys servicing the doormats of the world. Enjoy, sad therapist doormat, enjoy the prison of your own making.
Parson on
November 30th, 2006 8:24 pm
Beautiful – simply beautiful.
Wonderful blog, my liberated Brother. I am also a Free Man, and I salute you!
Khankrumthebulgar on
December 2nd, 2006 9:24 am
Men have seen the Collateral Damage to Friends, their Fathers and Uncles. And the behavior of Women before and after Marriage. Those burned once, see Marriage in the US for what it has become. A One sided Adhesion Agreement. On the Woman’s side sits the State, and Federal Government. Men effectively lose all equity and power in a relationship after they say I Do. With lots of liabilities and minimal benefits Marriage is a high Risk, Low reward proposition.
And Women are unwilling to change that. They want equality and Chivalry and the right to choose which on their Whims. Sorry Men are walking away from Relationships, Dating, Chivalry and Women in general. As they have become a Luxury Men can live without.
Khankrumthebulgar on
December 2nd, 2006 12:42 pm
Funny thing. Her past is coming back to haunt her. Including Shoplifting, Porn Video and Pics, and ************. Yes she is a former high priced Call Girl. Who was doing Arab Businessmen for big dollars. Hardly the virtuous Woman she proclaims to be. Also her own writings give her up as a liar. She is a Tramp, Gold digging *****, and a Liar. Hardly decent wife material. McCartney offerred her an extra $50,000,000 for Sole Custody of their Daughter Beatrice. McCartney is obviously a committed Father. Who enjoys his Canabis. His only real vice. Which many in the Entertainment Industry enjoy including Julia Roberts by her own admission.
Khankrumthebulgar on
December 4th, 2006 5:52 am
The truth is simply this. Women are choosing to destroy Marriage. Their unreasonable and unrealistic Demands, coupled with the legal sanctions imposed by the States and Federal Government are eliminating the incentives for Men to Marry at all. It is simply put an Adhesion Agreement. It is completely one sided. Men have only obligations and responsibilites and no rights or privledges. Marriage will die thanks to Women’s selfishness. While they whine the whole time.
All the Movies made for Women feature a Wedding as the high point of the Movie. It is simply put a transaction that benefits Women at Men’s expense.
Khankrumthebulgar on
December 4th, 2006 6:15 pm
Two words Tom Leykis. Tom Leykis nationally syndicated Radio program, and the Men’s Movement is telling Men to “Hit and Get it”. In other words use US Women as ****** Companions sans commitment. Do not make a commitment, cohabitate or spend money on Gold Digging ******. There are plenty of young Horny and Willing Women out there. No reason to give up your Freedom, to be a Cuckhold for some Single Mom who is not worth making a life with. Since she will get tired of you any way and move on to the next Bigger Better Deal.
This advice along with Steele *****, Marc Rudov and other Men are blowing the whistle on the Double Standards of US Women. They have really and truly screwed the pooch. And paybacks as they say are a real *****.
Bill on
December 7th, 2006 9:49 pm
Actually, the term is “Hit it and quit it”.
Not bad advice. “Hit it” which, let’s face it, is the sole reason for a man to date a woman in the first place, makes sense.
“Quit it” is what to do when a woman becomes bitchy, demanding or sexually withholding. No action by the third date? Done!
A relationship can actually form after you have had *** with her, like it, and you can actualy hear what she has to say. (We men don’t hear a thing until our first ******).
That guy is incredibly lucky that the police did not come to his house, charge him with ****, and arrest him.
In fact he should pray it won’t happen in the future – because it very well may.
antiriad on
December 16th, 2006 11:06 pm
Marriage is the bedrock of civilization – marriage where the man is the master and the woman obeys him implicitly, that is.
A civilization which has rejected this biological absolute has merely relinquished its desire to exist. This does not invalidate the concept of marriage; it invalidates the nihilistic norms which our dying culture has chosen to adopt.
Reverend Porkchops on
December 18th, 2006 4:42 pm
I know of several women whom “accidentally” got pregnant while dating. Of course they would inform their boyfriend that they are pregnant, and each guy would have nothing to do with them. These women would blabber their stories around my workplace, and each of them had an abortion. I can only summise that these women must have thought that by getting pregnant their bf would take-up and marry them, but I guess they were too stupid to realize they were simply getting porked by thugs and players! Whadda bunch of stupid whores. Then to add insult to injury these stupid whores take out their stupidity on the baby and abort it down the garbage disposer at the clinic.
Khankrumthebulgar on
December 22nd, 2006 4:37 am
As a Father of two Daughters myself. The Oldest married with Three Sons. I worry about my Grandsons, and Sons. Having seen the predatory Nature of Women encouraged by the likes of Oprah and other apologists for Feminism. Oprah has never been married, has no children and yet advises Millions of US Women on how to live their lives. She is also considered to be a “Spiritual Advisor”, more nonsense to distract Women from their Religious roots.
The Churches and Houses of Worship in our Republic have abandoned Men. Too many of the Clergy were too busy having *** with their own members or even children. And have fully abdicated their responsibility to protect the Family. Stop with the pretense already it is the “Leaven of the Pharisees” aka. hypocricsy. Marriage in the US is an Adhesion Agreement. Under any contract Law it is so one sided as to be an invalid Contract or void contract. No judge would ever sanction such a one sided Business Contract.
And to make matters worse the so called Values Party, has fully caved into the Feminists. This according to Carey Roberts and David Usher. There was a 100% approval by the Republican Majority US Senate of the VAWA.
Khankrumthebulgar on
December 22nd, 2006 4:48 am
As Zen Priest has stated Feminism is liberating Men from Marriage and being a ManSlave to Women. When Heterosexual Women figure out that FemNags have screwed them over watch and see how ugly it will get. I hope we can give them some Dull Knives to use on the FemHags. It will be fun to watch the Feminists get their just rewards.
Men are coming to the realization that Marriage involves alot of compromises. Most Women are in a self reenforcing delusion. That they perpetually feed with fantasy. Too talk to educated American Women desperate for a Husband and children, who are collateral damage is truly sad.
As a Buddhist I believe in the Laws of Cause and Effect. That Women are increasingly sufferring and living alone is the effects of Feminism and our current Debased and Toxic amoral culture. That Women refuse to see it is Feminism that has screwed them not Men. Men never did want the current situation. Both genders are hurting. But Men have other options. Players, Pick Up Artists, Thugs, Bad Boys, staying Single or going offshore.
Khankrumthebulgar on
December 25th, 2006 9:04 am
Terry Lynn Tersak wrote an Article that Kathleen Parker posted on Townhall entitled “Are We a Nation of Whores”? When Women are openly writing about how Feminism is turning previosly sane Women into Whores we have reached the bottom as far as our ethics and morals are concerned.
That Divorce rates are a few percentage points higher in the Christian Community that the Public at large also points to the unrealistic and unreasonble ideals that American Women, even Christian Women have. The Churches in America who are the so called promoters of Morals of Hearth and Home. Have fully abdicated their mission and betrayed their Teachings. That Men are bailing on the Feminized Churches should come as no surprise.
That Men are increasingly choosing to go offshore for Traditional Wives should be a huge sign that we are “Wheels Off”, I.E. dysfunctional as a society. We have sown the wind and have reaped the whirlwind.
Ever C on
December 27th, 2006 5:54 pm
I think this guy did the right thing. Women nowadays are not truthful, especially American women. So when their biological clock starts ticking, they could trick a man with lies. I know because it happened to my cousin and I thoght what a sad moment for him.
Ever C on
December 27th, 2006 6:29 pm
Love live freedom my brothers. Hell Yeah!!!!!
Ever C on
December 27th, 2006 6:32 pm
It is pleasureable to shag alone. After all why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free.
Free-Man on
December 31st, 2006 12:17 pm
I divorced my wife a few years ago and THEN found this site. She was all five of these reasons and more. Glad I have this re-enforcement to make me smile.
Dave on
January 4th, 2007 9:50 am
This article is very good reading. It describes the exact reason why I am holding out on marriage and most likely will never get married. I have worked too hard to get where I am financially and emotionally (no issues, no drama) to have it all wrecked by a self-entitled woman. If I ever do get married, it would be to a woman who doesn’t have the typical characteristics of the Western American woman – which means I will have to find one out of this country.
It kills me when I have conversations with female friends and acquaintances that the only reason they think men hold out on marriage is because we can get *** easily outside of it. Well, I then list the other reasons – like getting financially tortured and killed in divorce court, children taken away, marriage & family is EXPENSIVE as ever, stressful, ad nauseum and THEY DON’T GET IT.
I’ve come to the conclusion that they DON’T want to get it and have decided to leave them alone and enjoy my life. When they see me do this, they call me player, looser, a commitment-phoebe, etc. and I just say to them that “that’s desperation language when you are no longer desired” and they go ballistic.
Bill on
January 4th, 2007 12:18 pm
Enjoyed the article…after being married for the past five years my wife decided that our marriage has too many problems and that we should separate. Now that’s she realizing that living alone with her three children might not be quite the paradise she originally seemed to think it was going to be (and more importantly that she would actually have to get a job) she wants to go to counseling. Of course she expects me to find a counselor and then pay for all the sessions…while she continues to spend her stress filled days doing laundry and cooking a meal five days a week. She’s got a surprise coming when I tell her that the only “counsel” I’ll be seeking is my lawyer’s while he writes up our divorce papers.
Reverend Porkchops on
January 4th, 2007 9:06 pm
Most of the SAHM speech is coming from so-called “christian” women who are simply using christianity as a meal-ticket for a slothful life. When I read the Proverbs chapter 31 in the bible, it describes the wife as busting her *** all the time, I don’t see any modern-day SAHM in proverbs chapter 31. Nice try foolish women, go find another shmuck to ply your craft on.
Ever C on
January 5th, 2007 6:11 am
Marriage is a losing proposition period. Most women expect us to pay for everything.
Sure you can’t call in sick or skive off, you can’t clock off at 5pm, in fact you are on duty constantly for the next 18 years or so and you don’t get paid for over time…oh wait a minute, you don’t get paid at all…but have we really got it all that bad?
I for one would rather spend the day at home, visiting my friends or going shopping with LM than drive through traffic and sit through meetings and team building exercises, and whilst we might envy our partners escape from the home each day how can we dislike any job that means we get to watch soap re-runs, play around on the internet and nap?
So yeah, shhhh,
*looks around furtively*
It is a cushy number, just for pities sake don’t tell the men folk!
porkchops38 on
January 5th, 2007 8:38 pm
Most of the SAHM speech is coming from so-called “Christian” women who are simply using Christianity as a meal-ticket for a slothful life. When I read the Proverbs chapter 31 in the bible, it describes the wife as busting her *** all the time, I don’t see any SAHM in proverbs chapter 31. Nice try foolish women, go find another shmuck to ply your craft on.
Are you kidding me? Have a single one of you men stayed at home full time with children? I have both worked full time and been at home with children fulltime. I am telling being at home (when the children are younger especially) is much much more work!!!
I for one married my husband for love. He was definitely not rolling in dough, though he has nice stable job. When we divorced I only wanted child support not alimony. I think the judge thought I was nuts. I had no job at the time (the kids were young) but I did not want a penny for myself. I was ill at the time and my husband couldn’t handle the responsibility. I was left too ill to work and two kids to raise and not much money. I did everything I could to get well enough to work (which I have been doing steady for years now). While I was “shopping” at food pantries to feed our children, he was ******** his best friends wife. I am tired of hearing American men talking about how all woman want is their money. I just want a good reliable man who sticks to his commitments instead of running off when the going gets tough!
outcastsuperstar on
January 6th, 2007 10:03 am
You nailed it! My mother was born in 1940, and she has executed her family role beautifully. She puts her family first, will cook for the family, do the laundry for the family, and do lots of house cleaning.
At the same time I realize that my mother was in the last generation that was not infected by man hating feminism.
As of today, I would strongly agree that today’s modern stay at home American Mom is very lethal to the American Man. (If you need any proof read the Cultural Devastation of American Women by Nancy Levant.)
There was a time where a true stay at home mom was very beneficial to the American man, sadly though, those days are over as Feminism and the Family Court System have destroyed the value that a stay at home Mom would have.
JP on
January 8th, 2007 8:12 am
I would gladly trade places with any woman who wants a stay at home dad.
Cleaning house is easy. As a matter of fact, when I kicked the ex wife to the curb for being a lazy ungrateful b*tch I had the house cleaner in 2 hours than it took her a week to clean.
Coming home to fishsticks and screaming kids is no way to go through life. I fight a**holes all day long at the office, my ex wife seemed to think I wanted to fight with her over some stupid bullsh*t like who is emptying the master bedroom’s bathroom trash can this week.
I mean wtf, its not enough she doesn’t do sh*t all day, now I gotta do my part for our bathroom?
Paternity fraud should be a Felony, no ifs ands or buts.
Stiletto Girl on
January 8th, 2007 4:15 pm
Oh my god, this reminds me of my friend who went through this a few years back. I think I’ll have to write about it now.
Anyway, she totally tricked him into having a baby by saying she was on the pill. So stupid him, he didn’t use a ****** at all.
She refused to have an abortion because of her “religious beliefs” – which happened to not extend to her coke snorting, and casual f**king – and ended up having the baby.
He refuses to see the child and feels his whole life is ruined.
I’ve got to say he shares some of the blame for not wearing a ******. Boys, put those hats on!
Reverend Porkchops on
January 8th, 2007 8:43 pm
Mammy, your b.s. is so thick in here that I’ve had to put on my duck-hunting chest-waders to wade through your b.s.
First of all, one or two children is piece of cake nowadays. Try raising 8 or 10 little monsters like the women of yesteryear did and like many Amish women still do. How do the Amish women find time to raise so many kids without electricity, without Pampers, without bottle-warmers, without electric rocking cradles, without microwave ovens, without Hamburger Helper, etc.? You have got to be f’ng kidding me with your delusional b.s.
Secondly, I don’t know you from shamu, but let me take a wild guess as to why your husband left you for another woman. Oh I don’t know, could it have had anything to do with the fact that you have all these modern conveniences of life that your foremothers never had YET ALL YOU CAN DO IS WHINE AND MOAN ABOUT HOW HARD LIFE IS??? You know, when a woman whines and complains, that whining **** doesn’t put a man in the mood for playing hide the salami, but I guess you thought your whining and complaining was like verbal viagra to him. Now he’s in the arms of another woman, and as long as she doesn’t whine and complain she probably gets to hide his salami.
ingrid on
January 9th, 2007 11:04 am
Hello scary bitter men that make gross generalizations about women.
I’m not married.
I don’t have children.
I don’t want children.
I have been living with the same guy for the last 5 years.
I am financially independent.
I work full time.
Not all women are as you describe. In fact, I know very few that are.
At the end of the day, I think that you are all making a big fuss over nothing. Make good choices. Live with choices you make. Stop whining.
Many of the comments above sound weak and pitiful. Take responsibility for your own actions.
My Mother used to say to us Four Children. “Your Father works hard for us every day. Give him time to unwind. Before asking him for his time.” She made a point of saying this in front of our Dad. He always smiled, they after 51 years are still in Love. Still smile at each other. Still enjoy each other’s company. She dotes on him. Watches his diet makes sure he gets enough exercise and takes care of him.
She gives him his space to pursue his Hobbies. This is what I saw Marriage to be like growing up. It is why I wanted to get Married. Yet half of us four kids have been Divorced. And our Spouses were not reasonable or realistic. We have been enveloped by the Divorce Culture.
tygr on
January 9th, 2007 11:08 pm
Earlier death in men probably results from the greater amount of calories that men consume each day compared to women. Calorie restriction has proven to extend life. Excess calories, and in particular excess glucose from carbohydrates, causes many problems, especially organ failure, cancer and DNA damage, resulting in earlier death.
Now you could argue that working one of those physically demanding professions requires that a man consume extra calories per day, resulting in higher incidences of heart disease, stroke, cancer, etc.
Reverend Porkchops on
January 10th, 2007 5:35 am
The problem in western nations is that most women have gone to the extremes. Most women are either **** blockers or they spread their legs for anything that moves or comes with batteries, there’s no reasonable balance between these extremes, thus very few women in the west have a healthy view of ****** intimacy — yet the vast majority of western women cry for a monogamous relationship with a man. Go figure.
TROUBLED Sir Paul McCartney has said he is “through with women” in the wake of his divorce fight.
He poured out his heart to pals while on holiday with daughter Beatrice
The former Beatle, 64, told them at his five-star resort in Jamaica: “I’m through with women. It’s been horrible.
“I’m just glad to be able to get away with Beatrice.
“She is the most important person in my life — she’s all I have.”
Sir Paul jetted to the Caribbean island after New Year following a new divorce demand of £50million by estranged wife Heather, 39.
The star took Beatrice, three, and two other family members with him.
He has rented a five-bedroom villa at a resort he used to visit with beloved first wife Linda, who died of cancer in 1998.
Macca told those close to him: “It’s lovely to be back. It’s like being home again. It reminds me how happy we were together.”
But Sir Paul tried to put his emotions in the background as he went sailing on his own.
In spite of strong winds, he expertly manoeuvred the small craft. The star then pulled the boat up on the beach and cleaned it down before heading back to Beatrice.
Macca recently looked tired and drawn following the strain of his divorce battle.
But he was spotted smiling and chatting to holidaymakers in Jamaica.
An onlooker said: “He looks great. Just like his old self.”
portnoys_complaint on
January 13th, 2007 10:19 pm
It’s a Wonderful Life. Remember that movie? Jimmy Stewart goes back in time to see what would happen if he did things differently. One never really knows actually. The hypothetical history above does give pause for reflection. WEspecially interesting is the prohibition thing.
May I digress and inquire about the prohibition of hemp? Umm…here’s a link (leap.cc) to an association of 5000 cops and judges who think prohibition should be repealed.
Digression aside, it was an entertaining article.
Here’s another one:
In the year 2030, discouraged men disdraught at being marginalized and ignored by legions of hoary rugmunchers, no longer have the fighting spirit, because there is nothing thst they love left to fight for. As a result, Latino and Muslim machismo begin taking over. The shocked feminasty queens of hate are forced to submit into harems, etc. The men, don’t notice that the women are gone, since they have been misused and unloved all along.
In the year 2031 the men rally to rescue the women, on condition that the women change their evil ways.
Sorry, it is getting late so I’ll turn in now, to sleep, but my bed is empty as a barren femmiwitches’ womb. Aarrrgg! No I can’t stand it, I guess I’ll go out and see if I can scare up an old bag lady. Heh heh
Lixie on
January 14th, 2007 10:04 am
It was Feminism that encouraged women to be sexually liberated, thus men are eternally indebted.
MrFlesh on
January 14th, 2007 10:06 am
No it wasn’t feminism that made women sexually liberated. It was the free love of the 60’s and cocaine of the 70’s. And the Hip Hop / Rap scenes of the 90’s and today.
antifederalist on
January 14th, 2007 4:19 pm
Since passing of the 19th ammendment (removing the restrictions on women voting) the country has engaged in the second world war, the Korean war, the Vietnam war, two wars with Iraq. We have seen a massive growth in the goverment with the New Deal and the Great Society programs. In fact we haven’t seen a reduction in the size of government since the 19th ammendment except 1946 when World War 2 ended. I am not saying that all of this is the fault of women but they sure haven’t use their votes to make the U.S more free or more peaceful.
Reverend Porkchops on
January 14th, 2007 4:23 pm
Changes to law must occur first for feminism to have a chance to spread like a disease. Feminists have always worked to change laws from the very beginning until today. The first and foremost feminist victory was changing the US constitution to allow women to vote, that was the first domino that started the whole bus load of **** heading downhill at breakneck speed without any brakes into the abyss.
Without granting women the right to vote, hypothetically speaking, I think the US would contain about 25 times more wealth than currently, and about 1000 times less debt than is currently. I say that simply because the feminist agenda has sucked down massive amounts of financial resources and wasted them into oblivion, which has made the US poorer than it could be and deeper in debt than it should be.
Feminism’s cost to the USA has got to be somewhere between $100 trillion to $200 trillion dollars over the last 80 years — that’s the difference between where the USA is today financially and where the USA would be today financially without feminist laws.
But, I guess some feminists said that there was some husband somewhere in America that was abusing his wife, so we needed to change all the laws, starting with women’s right to vote, so we can help stop that man from abusing his wife. $200 trillion wasted down a black hole becasuse someone started the ball rolling by claiming a new law would save an abused woman somewhere in America, as the liberals always say, “If this new law just saves one _______ (insert woman, children, panda bear, etc.) it was well worth it”.
Khankrumthebulgar on
January 15th, 2007 3:01 pm
Simple formula for Marital happiness. Don’t spend us into insolvency. Cook us home made meals on a regular basis. Give us time to unwind and to reconnect mentally before the complaint department opens for business. A regular romp in Bed at least 3 times in Bed, weekly. And an occassional ****** escapade. Be inventive. Regular verbal appreciation, respect, admiration. Cold Beer or beverage. Laugh at our jokes now and then. Let us be Men, not Metrosexuals, Men Damnit.
Let us be Fathers and discipline our children. Acknowledge we will not be your Girlfriends, or will want to act like one. Let us enjoy our Sports, and have some downtime with our Buddies. Men are simple. We don’t need alot. We will walk over broken glass to please you, give our lives to protect you. And listen to your concerns.
We will not emote like you. We are hard wired differently. If you are worried about directions. Invest in a GPS device. End transmission.
Khankrumthebulgar on
January 15th, 2007 3:06 pm
Feminists or Femifascists will insure the financial collapse of the US. They are too stupid or selfish to take Economics into their unending demands for more and more resources. They are mentally children without any concept of limits or reality. Collectively since Feminism has come into existance we have aborted 1,000,000,000+ Children worldwide.
This is the most evil Movement in modern history. In terms of the innocent lives taken. It eclipes Pol P*t, the Khmer Ro*ge, Mao TseT*ng, Joseph Stal*n, H*tler, Atilla the H*n, etc. It is akin to a Religious Cult. Denying Human biology, Reason, Empirical Evidence, Logic and Science. It is a form of Mental Illness. And it is plunging birth rates everywhere it is being embraced.
Khankrumthebulgar on
January 15th, 2007 3:12 pm
Evolutionary Biologists insist that Humans survived the Neanderathals due to our Division of Labor. Men hunted, and Women attended to the Children. It was a specialization of Labor. No Gender was better than the other. But Men due to our Brains, and our hormones. Are by our Nature hardwired to lead. It is only in the last 40 years that Women, have stupidly ignored our biology and Neurological hardwiring and joined the Society of Flat Earth thinkers. With laughable results.
NOW’s own Leaders admit that their membership is 40% Lesbians. Who hate Heterosexual Men and compete with us sexually for attractive Females. Just who stupid are our Women? Apparently very stupid to believe the lies of Feminism. Stay at Home Moms should be regarded with high honors.
It is Femifascists Like Linda Hirschmann who regard them as Losers and dullards. It is Feminists who have forced them into the workforce. Stop blaming Men, and realize it is your Feminist Sisters who have consigned you to Wage Slave status. They believe the Child raising role to be “Oppression”. I do not.
HAWKEYE on
January 15th, 2007 3:39 pm
i must agree there.duncan is a briliant writter ,is this a real pic of him i have often wonderd what he looks like
One evening years ago, my then feminist wife and I were getting into bed. As the passion started to heat up, she eventually says, ” I don’t feel like it. I just want you to hold me and experience the joy of independent womanhood. You’re just not in touch with my emotional needs as a woman enough for me to satisfy your physical needs as a man. She responded to my puzzled look by asking, “Can’t you just love me for who I am and not what I do for you in the bedroom?”
The next day I opted to take the day off of work to spend time with her. We went out for lunch and shopping at a an upscale department store. I walked around with her while she tried on several expensive outfits. She couldn’t decide which one to take so I told her to take them all. She wanted new shoes to compliment her new clothes, so I said let’s get a pair for each outfit. We went to the jewelry department where she picked out a pair of diamond earrings. She was excited. She was almost nearing ****** satisfaction from all of the excitement. Smiling with excited anticipation she finally said, “I think this is all dear, lets go to the cashier.”
I blurted out, “No honey, I don’t feel like it. I just want you to HOLD this stuff for a while. You’re just not in touch with my financial needs as a man. “Why can’t you just love me for who I am and not for the things I buy you?”
HAWKEYE on
January 16th, 2007 4:39 am
If I do that I loose, house, kids, and the dream. The alternative IE child support, poverty, crappy digs. In my opinion I am better off to stay put. Even if I am unhappy, the alternative is worse.
Outcast Superstar on
January 21st, 2007 4:32 pm
What she did was very outrageous. If you want you can post a piece I wrote called Fuckers and Suckers. This piece exposes Western Women for what they are.
After reading the nomarriage ebook, the author talks about two groups of men fuckers and suckers.
Keep in mind western women love excitement and hate boredom. When they are in their teens and early 20’s they don’t want stability that suckers have to offer because that is boring.
Keep in mind that women don’t think for themselves but decisions on who they date or sleep with is usually made by the council not by the woman herself. This council is usually made up of her mother, sister, and friends etc. If dating a nice guy is not considered to be fun and popular by the “council” he is going to get snubbed.
There is another group of guys called fuckers. Women love to have *** with these guys during their prime years. Although they offer no stability to these women, however women will still sleep with them. The reason why women will is because they are unpredictable and therefore they are deemed as very exciting.
Once these women get to there late 20’s – early 30’s they will fraudently sell their looks to suckers who make a good income in order to get married. In other words they will put on a pony show for them until they get the ring. After a few years of marriage, these women are going to get bored and everything is the suckers fault. They will look for affairs and cash out on their suckers knowing that they will get the house, child support (if they have children), and alimony. All she has to do is file a false abuse charge (no proof necessary) to make all this happen. Even as a bonus, the sucker even gets to pay for her attorney fees.
Also, remember guys a women’s fertility starts to decline at age 27 not in her 30’s and 40’s. If any of you want to start a family I highly recommend to make sure that the woman you are going to start a family with is no older than 25.
Despite their not being any legal justice in this country, Mother Nature has a justice of her own.
Those suckers who once ached for these women will lose interest in them once they get to be in their mid to late 20’s. The last thing they are going to find attractive are used up women in their late 20’s-30’s. In fact these women must be avoided at all cost. They got a disease called baby rabies. They are going to do everything possible to get pregnant and trap you into a long term relationship where they can get provided for.
However, once those “suckers” get financially stable they will get to travel to foreign countries and enjoy beautiful women. Also, while in the United States, they will have developed fun hobbies to do when they are not working. In fact these “suckers” will not have to deal with the stress of fear of divorce, a nagging *****, false abuse and **** chargers, get to keep their sanity and money, won’t have to worry about raising kid that aren’t theirs etc.
However, the women who neglected the “suckers” in favor of the “fuckers” during their prime years are going to have to face justice. It’s not legal justice but Mother Nature justice. Once they get to their late 20’s for every year a man ages, they will be aging by two years. They will wrinkle and get ugly very fast. Investing thousands of dollars in makeup in order to form a bond with a “sucker” is not going to get the job done because they failed to form a bond with a “sucker” during their prime years. Their biological clocks will be ticking and they will get very desperate. They are going to want to be talking care off, like living off a “sucker” so they won’t have to work. Disgusted by their behavior, the “suckers” will not want anything to do with them and will rebuke them. They are going to have to work long hours for the rest of their life because they could not find a “sucker” to take care of them. They will whine and complain that the “suckers” will not commit despite them snubbing them in favor of the “fuckers” during their prime years. They will rot all alone with no one to take care of them, many of them will not get to have children, and will be living very miserable lives until death all because they thought it was cute to let the “suckers” rot all alone while they go squander their prime years to the “fuckers” That my friends is what I call justice!
- Outcast Superstar
surviving motherhood on
January 21st, 2007 7:55 pm
you guys never fail to amuse me!
Loki on
January 23rd, 2007 9:15 am
I am a stay at home mother, and a qualified teacher. My husband prefers me to be at home with our daughter. I have fought for self worth every day since my daughter was born because I felt like I was not contributing to our family financially. My husband has never made me feel this way – - that is just the way I feel. It was more my husbands’ decision for me to stay at home – - he thinks that it is ultimately better for her to be raised by me. I honestly have to agree with him, and THAT is why I am staying at home.
We want to be the ones to see her first steps, her first crawl, hear her first words… not a stranger. We trust each other more than I would ever trust a stranger to take care of her. THAT is why I am raising her, and staying at home. I am not a feminsit, I am not interested in watching soaps, and I do try to make sure that our house is tidy, and there is food on the table for my husband when he comes home from work… but I am not his slave, nor do I feel that it is my duty to do all of these things… I do them for him, because I love him. The less he expects from me, the more I want to do these things for him.
So, if you self-pitying men would take a second to realize that perhaps your selfishness is what is causing your women to turn on you, and perhaps you might have more luck in your relationships by accepting women for the things you love about them instead of the things that might not be so appealling.
There is no job more important than raising a child, and those who believe this not to be true must be a truly selfish and self-absorbed S.O.B.
Loki on
January 23rd, 2007 10:33 am
p.s. – If you guys stopped spending your weekends on the couch / computer, and made an effort to eat healthier and exercise, then you wouldn’t be as likely to die so much younger then women.
And for the guy who begrudged the fund-raising for Breast Cancer… SHAME ON YOU! WOMEN have worked hard for the fight against Breast Cancer… it kills your wife, sisters, mothers, etc every minute of every day. How about instead of begrudging a worthwhile cause, get off your butt and start a worthwhile cause for men?
MEN, what would YOUR mothers think of you if they read the articles that you are writing here? I think that most of them would be ashamed of you.
RE: If you guys stopped spending your weekends on the couch / computer, and made an effort to eat healthier and exercise, then you wouldn’t be as likely to die so much younger then women.
Loki, I went surfing around the net and it took me 3 minutes to discover this:
“1) I spend too much time on the computer. Like right now.
2) I spend too much time on the couch watching TV. The only time I should be watching TV is when I am sitting there nursing my baby. Other than that, NO!
3) I sleep way too much, I never want to get out of bed. Being a stay at home mom, it’s not like I have to be anywhere at any given time, so I have no schedule, which contributes greatly to my laziness.
4) I almost never exercise.
So in conclusion, to end my laziness, I have these goals for the first week: Exercise at least 3 times this week. Get no more than 8 hours of sleep per day. No watching TV unless I am nursing. Limit computer time to 2 hours a day (LOL, that’s bad when 2 hours/day is “cutting back”).”
And this gem too:
“Since I quit smoking 4 months ago I have been slowly but surely eating myself through a number of very bad food groups. I said to myself that I wouldn’t eat so much and that I would get out every day and go for a walk…that lasted 2 days….i need to be more motivated!!!”
I sure wouldn’t want to be their man out busting my hump to come home to them. “Baby, did you make a meatloaf today by chance, I’m really hungry?” Sorry hubby, didn’t get a chance, been real busy with the kids you know.”
Curiepoint on
January 24th, 2007 3:26 pm
A few random thoughts:
Has anyone ever noticed that all the breast/cervical cancer adverts feature women who are portrayed as the ever-popular strong/independent/sassy-@$$ types who are gonna beat this thing, dammit…Yet, the rare advert that addresses prostate or testicular cancer are always related in terms of how it affects women? One can almost envision the headline:
MEN DYING IN DROVES. WOMEN HIT HARDEST OF ALL
Also, I love how Loki can admonish us pathetic men for not eating right or exercising and that’s why we die earlier. Well Loki, women don’t fare much better in terms of their personal habits. I don’t see any Big Handsome Man movements forming anywhere, at least not with the ubiquity of the BBW movement. Most are just as bloated and ill-healthed as any guy. The difference is that billions and billions of dollars are spent on research to help women and their ailments. Barely any money is spent on men’s well-being. Why? because women fail to acknowledge that they are:
1). The ones who hold all the political clout. Otherwise, they will ***** and nag like little children until they get their way.
2). Their agendas are supported by every major media outlet.
3). They think with their uteri, rather than their brains.
4). They buy into whatever the herd mentality tells them.
5). They couldn’t care less about any man, and if anything happens to him their first thought is how they are going to subsidize their lifestyles. Heaven forbid they have to do what men must, which is suck it up and deal.
5). They quite simply are the enemy.
ingrid on
January 25th, 2007 12:39 am
Wow. Astounding leaps of logic. I’m glad that you all have it figured out.
Things were *much* better for my grandmother who had an abusive husband who was also a child molester. But hey, at least the family was not obese.
Yes, women really wrecked it for everyone when they wanted to be considered equal.
There are jerks in both sexes. There are also lovely people in both sexes.
Peace to you.
Henry on
January 25th, 2007 12:31 pm
Ed needs to have a 2 week garage sale… (with a lot of items given away for FREE)… Then bring in the dumpster & haul the rest of the garbage to the dump… (And if the wife is accidentally found in that dumpster, I assure you Ed it’s not a great loss!) There is a serious sanitation issue here along with safety & possible fire hazards. I personally would not tolerate this kind of situation for more than 2-3 days. Ed, you are either the doormat of the century, or you have been trying to have 15 minutes of fame. What a looney way to go about this. This kind of a situation speaks volumes for NEVER getting married, since men are used and dragged into the problems of others.
Henry on
January 25th, 2007 12:38 pm
A Paternity test should be mandatory for every live birth. It would solve this nasty problem. I bet one in 10 children have dads that are dads in name only. And the REAL biological father is out there somewhere laughing his a** off… because he got away with no child support for 18 years.
Curiepoint on
January 25th, 2007 2:41 pm
Yeah, he’s a woman-hater because he doesn’t want his home turned into a trash heap. This isn’t even about whether or not she does the housework. This is beyond anything he could ever keep up with even if he decided that he would take charge of the cleaning. As to her needing his support, she needs severe electro-convulsive aversion therapy.
I hope he has the nads to tell these hateful Bi**hes off.
Curiepoint on
January 25th, 2007 2:42 pm
No, they wrecked it for everyone when they started considering themselves more equal than others.
Curiepoint on
January 25th, 2007 2:43 pm
The only way a western woman can please me in bed is if she just let me sleep.
The problem is that women tend to stick together – this is why whenever someone complains about a woman, he is instantly found guilty of misogyny by the all-female court of public opinion, since they’re afraid that he’s talking about the entire female gender when he is talking about one female.
Outcast Superstar on
January 26th, 2007 9:43 am
Wow! I have heard about a lot of crazy stories but nothing like this. Hopefully Ed will get to spend his golden age years living in peace.
Shauna on
January 27th, 2007 9:57 pm
This must be why, in the Middle Ages, the most important relationship was between an uncle and his nephew.
Even if you couldn’t prove your own kids were yours, you could ALWAYS prove that you were related to your sister’s kids.
And really, I think that many (stupid) women do this (and have done this since women have existed), and that’s because she wants to use her pregnancy as a free meal ticket (as stated above).
In reality, even if you have a minimum wage job, you’re going to be much better off with all the stuff you want and less stress, then if you get pregnant and get some poor shmuck to marry you so you can leech off of him.
“Feminists”, my ***. Women like this are misandronist manipulative *******.
A REAL feminist would RESPECT a man, not treat him like ****.
Right now I’m really upset that I can’t find a better job because I want to support my husband so he doesn’t have to work while he goes to college, but I just got a good letter in the mail that says I’m in the top ten for a higher paying job, so I’m stoked.
Any woman who treats men like a commodity does not deserve the respect nor the companionship of any man.
Shauna on
January 27th, 2007 10:30 pm
When I think about the way things have changed, I think about two things; we can either start blaming women for everything (or indeed, feminists/femnazis/or whatever you’re calling them nowadays), or we can start looking at things realistically.
Stuff like WW2, Vietnam, and other wars were all mostly due to pressures that boiled over. Even if women have the right to vote, many do not, and your vote isn’t worth much when it comes to something that involves an electorial college, or, say, the fact that you’re voting for the lesser of two evils, both of which will do simliar things when elected.
To say that feminism is the reason for all the evil, destruction, and chaos in society is putting up a big flaming strawman (or should we say strawfemnazi?) and then attacking it.
If you look at society today, many of the socialized medicine and social programs to help people without money/health insurance are what keeps the poor in America (a whopping 20-30% of the population) as well as those who are uninsured (accounting for even MORE!) from being completely without healthcare.
Due to HMO’s and big business (mostly built up completely independently from feminism, let’s say it was more capitalism’s doing), the common person in this country is pretty screwed.
Also, looking at credit card debt and other things; we can’t simply blame this on the people with boobies. People are being taught to be consumers. We don’t have “consumerettes” and “men”.
While I do think that gender roles are pretty screwed up, I am really happy that people like my husband can be comfortable with acting more “feminine” if he so chooses without reproach, or that I can go out and support him with my income while he goes to school.
Additionally, without women’s rights, it would still be legal for a husband to **** his wife; and I don’t think that **** is good for anyone. Women who are forced to stay at home are at the mercy of their husbands for money and are often less well-educated. I believe that having better educated women allows for society to be better educated as a whole. Even babies and children being raised by women who are well educated tend to do better in school, have higher grasps on vocabulary, and are related to in a way that behooves good development.
Don’t worry about women rising up to become femnazi lesbians. After all, I can tell you that I probably couldn’t stand half the **** of living with another typical woman. I prefer to be around guys because they’re easier to understand, to relate to, and to otherwise take care of. If I make dinner or invite them to a movie night, I know I won’t have to sit through tear-jerker **** that makes my eyes bleed. While I do have some lovely female friends who don’t fall into the “annoying woman” category, I find that there are way too many women who do.
I do, however, think that the choice of women to get abortions, as well as to have gynecologists, and awareness about their bodies, how they work, and their freedom to explore their bodies.
To respond to an above poster, I think it’s really awful that your wife would tease you like that; telling you that she doesn’t want *** after getting you all riled up.
I think that some women just get off on that kind of power trip; but usually, it’s because they have problems with their own self-esteem.
And for the record, I hate shopping for clothing and shoes and **** like that. Makeup? It rots your skin. And yet, I’m surprisingly good looking and I have a husband who I am lucky to be with.
The reason I CAN pay for myself, why I can take my husband out to dinner or buy him a gift, is because I *DO* have a job. I could *NOT* do anything special for the man I love if he had a job but I wasn’t allowed to because of my *** without spending *HIS* money to do so. That’s unfair and stupid. Why should I be forced to stay at home and be a housewife when we don’t have any kids, and he’s going to school? Why shouldn’t I support him when he needs it? Why shouldn’t I make his life easier?
And about the healthy/unhealthy food thing? It’s not hard to have a healthy diet and lifestyle in today’s world. You just have to pay for it. Either time or money is the cost, and since I’m lucky enough to live in the “produce capital of the US”, I can get good food for low prices. And most people go for the most bang for a buck, and that’s just plain unhealthy. I’d be more likely to blame that “more is better” attitude on consumerism.
In conclusion, I think that there were some very very prominent driving forces other than “those evil femnazis” to cause things like WW2, prohibition, etc.
Believe me, just getting the right to vote doesn’t mean you’ll do it, or that the society you live in suddenly becomes ok with you being “liberated.”
Remember, when black people first got the right to vote, hardly any of them did it due to pressure from white people and simply the fact that they had never had such a right before.
Feminism, true feminism, is about equality, which means more rights for men AND women; rights to be able to knock down gender roles, and to choose what you want in life.
And I think that such a goal is a wonderful thing.
Shauna on
January 27th, 2007 10:43 pm
While I think that such roles are kind of unrealistic, they do have some bearing in reality. Wives should be nice to their husbands. But husbands should also be nice to their wives in return.
And I do think that there are many many ways to make a marriage both happy and functional, without the 50’s Houswife mumbo-jumbo.
I know that my father is very very unhappy, even though my mom did the whole housewife bit. It’s because she was so caught up in roles, that she forgot when they had to be real people with one another.
Plus she seems to have this weird obsession with men being all rapists and molesters. I think this has to do with her childhood; being stuck in a household with a mom who was never there and a bunch of her mom’s boyfriends who probably did some awful things to her.
Of course, this is not some kind of underhanded way of saying that all men are evil or bad, just that there are a lot of reasons to look at men and women and not just see two sexes, but also two seperate individuals.
I love to bring lunch and dinner to my husband when he’s at work. He loves having a hot meal served to him when he’s stressed out from working on his meal break.
I also love to prepare things for him and make his life easier if possible.
However, he loves to cook sometimes (especially steak!) and I love when he serves me with meals.
I say, whatever works to make both of you happy, healthy, and functional, do it!
I can honestly say, though, that anyone who takes the “perfect Stepford Wives” roles and fills them to a T will probably find themselves very disappointed, and their husbands will wonder what alien robot replaced his wife.
If you don’t like the person your wife is; get rid of her. Chances are, you’re both miserable.
Wow. I am thinking that she has spent quite a bit of his money to get all that useless junk and stack it up.
Why didn’t he tell her ‘No’?
This is what happens when you don’t place limits on a woman!
Khankrumthbulgar on
January 28th, 2007 9:46 am
Older Men myself included I am now 50. Recall a US culture that was imperfect but Sane. What we have now is chaos. And an Engine to create a society full of future criminals and a permanent underclass. We have allowed a ******* led hate movement to destroy Family Life, murder a Billion children Worldwide. And now the US has 7 million people on parole, probation or in Prison. This is an explosion in our Criminal Justice system. Maybe the fantasy Movie “Escape From New York” is not too far off. We have removed Millions of Fathers from Families. Are medicating 20% of US School Boys with Kiddie Cocaine (Ritalin). The US consumes 85% of the World’s supply. And now the US Federal Government wants to screen all US Children for Mental Illness. These ******** have done enough damage.
Shauna on
January 28th, 2007 2:57 pm
I thought it was funny when I heard David Cross (a quite humorous comedian) talk about how women who get lip-jobs make their mouths look like a big red *******.
I can say I agree.
While I live in California, I would venture to say that most of the scary materialistic “*******” live more in the LA and southern areas of the state. Up in Northern and Mid-CA, you just have to watch out for the Neo-Hippies and the Vegans (yuck! I love my meat!)
As for me, I can safely say that my experiences with females is that it takes all types. If you go after “******* mouth”, don’t be surprised when you get thrown for a loop. This is not to say that “normal” women can’t be *******, but in my experience, there’s a lot more going on in the head of the intelligent woman than you would think; and most of them are just looking for someone who will enjoy life with them.
On the other hand, remember, it’s hardly fair to compare a society like the US to India. In the US, even if a man gets his money taken from him (usually due to benevolent-to-the-woman sexism on the judge’s part), he doesn’t have to suffer human rights violations.
Think about being forced to **** and *** in a small room with no windows or doors. Think about the humiliation of being treated like less than an animal for even a week, and you’ll see that it’s about as comparable as saying a hangnail is as excruciating as AIDS.
While the things done to men in divorce court are no fair, I can give you some anecdotal evidence that might cheer you up.
My husband’s mother just finally divorced her husband after 25 years of being verbally abused and dragged into debt.
Not only did the husband sit around and not do anything around the house, but he also bought very expensive things on his wife’s credit, causing them to go into horrible debt. Not only that, but he verbally and emotionally abused his son (my husband) and treated him like **** because he would rather be in the band than the football team.
After a long time, she finally left him, but he got the house, and most of the property. She also ended up having to pay for all the electricity and food for him to live because when he got a job, it didn’t pay much (even though he has a law degree, he could never pass the Bar exam because of fear that he would fail).
They didn’t officially divorce until last year (finally after much prodding from both my husband and myself, she had the strength to do it), and now she is not having her wages garnished anymore, but the IRS is still on her *** about back taxes (her husband did not file taxes while they were separated and this caused the IRS to come after HER instead).
Because my husband was 19 or so when they divorced, there was no child custody stuff, but he still got a good amount of money from her, as well as the house in the country with over 10 acres of land (and in CA, that’s a lot of money).
So, really, if you want to look at it; the one with the bigger income is the one that gets screwed.
So sometimes I think this is the main reason why women want to ’stay at home’ (stay at home and do what? sit on your ***?! I can clean the house and take care of things fine while also working!).
Shauna on
January 28th, 2007 3:08 pm
For some reason, I keep thinking of that movie “About a Boy” where the main character pretends to be a single dad and takes advantage of a bunch of single moms, but has casual *** with them and uses his invisible son as a reason to keep things casual.
It was pretty funny.
I think that it’s a good idea to be a “smart man” when looking for a relationship. Way too many people “settle” or go for someone who doesn’t measure up to what they want in a partner.
And I feel that perhaps “perfection” is less important than “fitting the requirements for the most rewarding relationship.” After all, part of a good relationship comes from being able to give each other space, to be able to grow and change together, and to accommodate all the things that need to be done for everyone to be happy.
Personally, there are at least four things you have to be in agreement before you tie the knot, and these things are:
1) ***
2) Religion
3) Politics
4) Money
If you can’t deal with vast differences in any of these areas, BEWARE! I find that testing someone out and seeing how they spend their money; how they budget, and how they save are very big indicators of how they’ll be in marriage. If you look at me, my biggest expenses are mostly groceries and gas for the car. The basics, if you will. I also have handy knowledge on how to take care of my car (my dad taught me a lot about how to fix and maintain cars), and the household while maximizing my time and money.
Being truly intelligent (ie: doing your research and inquiring before buying into something) is a very important thing in a spouse, and too many men and women are lacking in these qualities.
Plus, I always say that even if a man has lots of ***, it’s not necessarily good ***, even if he gets his rocks off. And if he’s stupid and doesn’t use protection, that’s even worse. He could get infected with a viral *** and then infect future partners, or even worse, infect his wife/future children with the disease because he’s having *** behind her back.
I would much rather a man be honest about philandering, than to be putting his family and his own life in danger.
After all, while I might be upset if I got cheated on, I would be much more upset if I also got infected with HIV or HPV or the like.
So men, be careful, cover up, and get regular screenings for your health and the health of your partners.
Anonymous on
January 29th, 2007 12:26 pm
Why are you concerned about what men are wearing? Stop trying to define our masculinity for us and concentrate on one message.
Unless you are also castigating women for not dressing traditionally, you have no right to shame men for not dressing traditionally. Men should be able to wear whatever they want, the same way women are able to wear whatever they want.
Take a look at http://www.mens-links.net in the dress code section. Would you also say that a beard is an affront to your sense of taste?
Anonymous on
January 29th, 2007 12:29 pm
Lee R, stop blaming the man. Nothing he could’ve done would’ve prevented this, and you all need to accept that “wherever there’s a woman’s failings, there’s a man behind it” is NOT TRUE.
If he had done ANYTHING, he would have been labeled controlling and abusive by that SAME troop of females and men. Logic does not enter into this.
Curiepoint on
January 29th, 2007 3:49 pm
Not in this nor any other lifetime…
Reverend Porkchops on
January 29th, 2007 9:04 pm
“Unless you are also castigating women for not dressing traditionally, you have no right to shame men for not dressing traditionally.”
I have to agree, the article should have castigated women who do not dress traditionally. It’s not a perfect world though so give the author some slack, geez.
“Would you also say that a beard is an affront to your sense of taste?”
If it’s on a woman, yes. I always see many middle-aged women walking around the mall with their menopausal moustaches and trust me, that’s not a pretty sight.
Reverend Porkchops on
January 30th, 2007 6:05 am
“Additionally, without women’s rights, it would still be legal for a husband to **** his wife; and I don’t think that **** is good for anyone.”
When a woman marries a man, she is essentially consenting to ****** intercourse with said man, thus it’s impossible from a legal perspective to charge a husband with ****** his wife. These new laws regarding husbands being legally culpable for “****” of their wives are just assinine. It’s equivalent to the feminazi stormtroopers breaking into a husband and wife’s bedroom and violating one of the most sacred places — the marriage bed.
These new laws recently passed are just feminazi stormtroopers invading the sacredness of the marriage bed, and it’s now re-defined “marriage” from a legal perspective. It’s another reason why a man today should think long and hard before he ever invites the government and their feminazi stormtroopers into his bedroom. It’s almost getting to the point where a man will be better off and safer to grab a box of ******* and visit a prostitute. The feminists at N.O.W. are working diligently to legalize ************ everywhere in America, so once the feminists at NOW get ************ legalized everywhere in America then the marriage rate should plummet to near zero.
John on
January 30th, 2007 9:34 am
I am glad women are staying home and taking care of kids.
If I was married, I would have my wife do that.
Yes, the system nowadays is unfair for men, but f*** it, we are men, just deal with it, and make it better. The enemy is not the woman per say, but the system they grow up in. (yes they too are responsible, but women are just followers of modes and fashion, very few are independent and moral thinkers)
The ideal today is the **** or independent career woman, and actually i’m attracted to the **** type woman, who isn’t. No no on the career woman ick!! anyway,.. But, Ill be damn if i’ll marry her!! or let her have my children, or take care of her 2/3 kids with other men.
Again, Three Cheers for the house wife, who takes care of the kids, or the one who looks after the house, ((**ps. don’t get fat**))
but three cheers!!!
Now if Women want to be men, f*** it , let them.
If they want to be career women, or *****. let them. They will have there own hell to pay.
But to be honest, i’m not that cold. It would be best for them to find out what the essence of womanhood is, before their life wastes away, and they become crabby, bitter old hags.
As for us men, best to saddle up and be men.
On a final note, I would actually say that the reason there are such gender problems nowadays is because we have lost Christ.
Shauna on
January 30th, 2007 3:05 pm
“When a woman marries a man, she is essentially consenting to ****** intercourse with said man, thus it’s impossible from a legal perspective to charge a husband with ****** his wife. These new laws regarding husbands being legally culpable for “****” of their wives are just assinine. It’s equivalent to the feminazi stormtroopers breaking into a husband and wife’s bedroom and violating one of the most sacred places — the marriage bed.”
She may be consenting to be with the man for the rest of his life, but I don’t believe any of the marriage vows includes “*** whenever husband wants it.”
If you look at the overwhelming majority of **** statistics, **** occurs between people who know each other well, and less than 9% of all accused rapists go to jail or suffer any recourse for their actions.
To say that once you get married that your body belongs to someone else regardless of what you want is awful. Let’s say that you’re tired and don’t want ***. Maybe you have the stomach flu or something. And your wife suddenly pushes you down and tries to have her way with you. Or maybe you’re sleeping but you have an erection, and you wake up to wifey on top of you doing what she wants to get off. For some people this is not an erotic surprise, it feels like you’re being used, and it’s especially not fun if you’re female and your husband rapes you often because he wants children but you don’t.
I can’t speak for all relationships, but there are a lot of idiots out there who get themselves into bad relationships that make me shudder to think about.
Even if I am happy or have a good relationship and never have to worry about being ***** by my husband, it doesn’t make it universally true.
Bottom line, your body should never belong to another person to be taken advantage of; no matter what your gender is.
There are still laws out there in a few states that makes a woman the PROPERTY of her husband after marriage (i.e. not considered a person with full human rights) simply due to her ***.
While I don’t agree with “bull-femnazi-laws”, I do think that basic ideas such as the freedom not to have one’s body used (regardless of gender) by another person without consent under any circumstances is a good idea.
After all, just look at the **** that gets done to people in other countries without human rights laws. Women murdered/disfigured/beaten within an inch of their lives for looking at a male person. Men who are killed for saying something flattering to a woman by a jealous or offended husband/father/brother.
Bottom line is, being in a situation where someone does something to you that you do not want done to you, even though you’re in a committed relationship, is still bad. If anything it hurts worse to be taken advantage of by someone who you care for because there’s a lot of trust there that gets broken.
And, as we can see when it comes to **** laws and other laws of the ilk, it pretty much does nothing for convictions anyway. But for the sane, average, and intelligent man, it does give one pause to deter oneself from behaviors that may lead to hurting the very one person that they love.
And don’t worry, guys, this stuff goes for women too. Women who take advantage of their husbands or significant others, are just as much scum in my book who should be prosecuted and punished every bit as much as male offenders.
Shauna on
January 30th, 2007 3:43 pm
First of all, I don’t think of most women as “feminists”.
I think of them as women who have taken on a warped sense of female machismo.
If you look at the main “roles” that are available for males, they are all dysfunctional and lack strong actual males in society to emulate.
Brad Pitt and other “hollywood hunks”? No thanks. He’s just a pretty-boy.
Rappers? You mean the guys who advocate killing people for stupid
reasons and have rampant egos/materialistic greed?
Athletes? Athletes are being brought up for “scandals” all the time, and you hardly ever see big, household names come out of football, baseball, or basketball anymore. There is so much of a flood of people changing teams and moving around, it’s quite a problem to get a fix on any one “big star” to want to emulate.
Most male gender roles have to do with a false sense of hypermasculinism that doesn’t exist in real life. Most males go through a period of intense loneliness and pain because they lack strong *REAL* male role-models to emulate and therefore resort back to a fake sense of masculine that is portrayed in WWF wrestling and other such shows/events.
While female roles have been significantly lessened in effect and rigidity, male gender roles have continued to be largely the same (except perhaps the lessening on the taboo of “girly” or “emo” boys through the “counter culture” shown through certain new rock groups and stores like “Hot Topic”).
Now look at female roles:
Barbie and the like: ****, and yet fake and sexless, materialistic, super self-absorbed. Her self worth is so packaged up in consumer culture, it’s sickening
Mother: Even before girls have any concept of having a husband or ****** attraction, they are encouraged to become mommies, and raise a bunch of babies. The thousands of dolls out on the market and the play sets that depict fake households specifically marketed to young girls attest to this fact. However, even if the girl is taught how to be a mother to her children, she is not really taught much about being a wife to a husband beyond the superficials like “how was your day, honey” and the like.
A girl is taught that her husband is basically financial support and will give her babies, not that her husband is going to be an actual person, and there will be ****** issues and personal relationship issues therein. Not very helpful, if you ask me.
****/*****: This is the “bad” girl, who has *** with all kinds of men, and loves the attention and meaning it gives to her life. Men love her and hate her because they love the fact that they get her, but they hate the fact that others get to have her as well. She tends to be shallow, self-absorbed, and attractive to some extent (otherwise, how could she be an effective ****?). Many girls who dress up like this do so to get a reaction; to deal with sexuality, as it’s not addressed in the above roles of mother or Barbie-esque person.
In fact, proper sexuality and ****** displays are always flip-flopped. It’s good to be **** as a woman (and not “get fat”) but it’s also WHORISH to be ****. It’s good for a woman to be pure, but pure tends to be plain and “frumpy”, thereby killing half her femininity because femininity is considered to need “sexiness”.
While these above roles have been changed around a lot because of the whole “women can do what men do too!”, it’s also given women this sense that they should take on the machismo role that men fall into; becoming sexists themselves.
You know about the women who want MORE rights than men? The ones who want to “take advantage” of men and make them second class citizens?
These women are the product of a culture where women are increasingly taking on the role of “hypermasculine woman.” While, as you can see, it’s pretty harmful to males to encompass this role, it’s even more noticeable when a woman does it, and it is both terrible and wrong.
Instead of talking about how “bad” American women are as a group, it’s more important to see how our messed up ideals of gender roles, mixed in with puritanical gobble-de-gook and otherwise stagnated values as to what we should all be doing in our personal lives, and try to figure out what the heck we should do about it together.
It’s not just women’s problems; it’s everyone’s problems. Walking around saying that women should be turned into doormats and submissive wife/**** mixes is doing nothing for the reality of our country and our culture. If anything, you have proven on this website that doormats of any gender are not fun to be in a relationship with nor are they fun to be around at all.
In the end, this issue is much more difficult than simply “blame it on the femnazis” or “blame it on X group over there”.
We’re all part of this place together, and to deny any responsibility of the problems that we face are part of our American culture as a whole is not exactly helping.
And personally, I think a lot of the problems therein are due to the liberalization of Christianity, and the fact that if you’re not a fundamentalist Christian, you shouldn’t really bother calling yourself as such. Christianity is, in effect, not a peaceful and loving religion, and to try and use it in a way to promote tolerance or equality of races/sexes is ridiculous. There are LITERAL PASSAGES in the bible that say that non Christians and women should be treated like subhumans. There are all kinds of passages that talk about destroying people who don’t believe if they won’t convert and manhandling other cultures into submission. It talks about everyone being pushed into thankless roles for the benefit of an unknown “plan” by an uninvolved Creator, and it talks about how everyone should be mostly unhappy, because the more unhappy you are, the better Christian you are, and the most unhappy that you make anyone who opposes Christianity, the more likely you are to go to Heaven.
But remember, the more you destroy the freedom of others to choose their actions and roles in life, the more you trap yourself in similarly unfulfilling roles.
pablo on
January 31st, 2007 8:27 am
Whos been taking pics of my house
I thought I had a unique wife
ingrid on
February 2nd, 2007 12:39 am
No one should live with a house like that.
There is, however, no “they.” To assume all women are one homogeneous mass who are all exactly the same is to say the same for men. Ridiculous.
People are people. Individuals. *** aside, people have varying levels of respect for each other.
This woman obviously had little respect for herself.
This: “Again the hypocrisy and double standards come to surface. If a woman dumps a man over drinking too much she made a smart move. Again no one really likes a spouse who is drunk all the time. If a man dumps a woman for filling up his home with garbage (after 5 years of trying to help her OCD, and the wife is refusing treatment) he is a scumbag for doing so.”
Is not the opinion of everyone. Nor should it be conveyed as such. It is the hypocrisy of some. Not all. And probably not most.
I don’t think he is a scumbag. I think it is awful that he should have had to live with that.
ingrid on
February 2nd, 2007 12:43 am
“You just have to find the good ones they say. Have faith. So why then is it getting easier and easier to flush out the bad ones?”
I know women who feel similarly about men. Do I think that they are right? No. There are a lot of good guys out there.
Generalizations are silly and frequently inaccurate.
This type of “analysis” reminds me of horoscopes. Hooey.
John on
February 2nd, 2007 9:38 am
This afternoon, I was helping out one of my young waitresses find herself an apartment. Now, I was just being a friend, and giving her advice, and she was just sucking it up. I guess, I was being a father figure she never had, and it was all good. It just makes me wonder if, women now days, because of broken families, really don’t have much good advice given to them. They aren’t nurtured with love, so they rely then on power playing.
My point,
I’m not excusing women for being tramps or what not. But, I see a deep correlation between how they are brought up, and what they become.
If a woman, or young woman was truly loved, and she felt it down in her bones, she would not aim at being a cold-hearted *****.
Problem is, now days women don’t know how to respond to that, and from what I’ve seen of some strippers that I know, is that they think when a guy is kind, or good to them, it is a sign of weakness.
And instead aim for the abusive boyfriend. That is until about the age of 30 or so, and then they wake up.
A quick digression, women, even strippers per say aka Britney spear type, are at best ‘nice’ but they are not Good. Goodness implies a transcendent standard.
*** men are “nice” too, but again like the ho’, they are not ‘Good”
Regardless of what women and **** do, my advice to men is, not to think or act or respond to them in they way they play the game. But rather, to take the high road, the nobler one, and be a GOOD man, a GOOD father, and a GOOD boss. It builds a foundation on which all relationships can last.
Javier on
February 2nd, 2007 11:59 am
Seems like a lot of this **** is going around. Hell, even Miss USA and the ex-Miss Nevada can’t even have morals, and we expect common lay women to have them? LOL!
Reverend Porkchops on
February 2nd, 2007 3:44 pm
She planned with great forethought and executed the cold-blooded murder of her Marine husband, but many in America will never hear of this woman and what she did because she is an unremorseful killer who happens to be a woman.
This woman executed her murder in the state of California, the same state that Scott Peterson killed his wife, but Scott Peterson was sentenced to die for killing his wife. She only gets life in prison. Scott Peterson was made a household name around the globe for his dastardly deed, this woman’s evil is buried on the backpage. The nightly news in America did 1000’s of updates on the Scott Peterson case, while they remain virtually silent on this female killer’s case.
This is what you call spreading a massive lie across America — the lie being that only men commit evil, because when women commit the same evil, you will rarely hear about it unless you dig through the back pages and the internet. The issue isn’t about women or men being evil and committing evil deeds, the issue is that women who commit evil deeds are quietly swept under the rug and if/when they do get punished for their evil deeds they never receive punishment even close to what a man would receive for doing the same evil act.
Has anyone heard about the case of the pastor’s wife who shot her husband dead in Tennessee about a year ago? Nope, nothing in the news. The last I heard about 3 months ago, is that she was out of jail on bond and working at a dry-cleaners while she awaits trial. Imagine that, a woman murders her husband by shooting him in the back and the back of his head, and then she gets out of jail on bond to work at a dry-cleaners.
Charles on
February 3rd, 2007 1:54 pm
This home is an analogy for her. The outside looks normal and no one would suspect the turmoil that lies withing. Don’t walk, RUN away from this woman..!!!
Many women are like this. They act all sweet and innocent and NORMAL ( and often pretty) on the outside. But if you could see inside of them you would shreek in horror…
I work in sales and visit peopel in their homes for a living. This is more common than one might think and upheaval in marriage is the rule of the day.
joe1973 on
February 3rd, 2007 5:14 pm
this is just a true sign of a sicko. if it was me i would GIVE everything away.
Chuckzul on
February 3rd, 2007 9:34 pm
I agree with this all except the part regarding women in the Israeli army:
“The last thing a woman wants to do is what women do in the Israeli Army, which is, time to go to war. Don’t kid yourself, the Israeli women don’t do all these things because they want to, their draft is not volunteer.”
I just came back from a 2 week business trip in Israel and I got a chance to talk to a lot of former Israeli pilots (actually they are active reserved for 10 years), and, while they have compulsory military service, and women serve with men in the military, it is largely a smoke screen. The feminist movement in Israel is as, if not more, organized and militant than here in the U.S. Israeli female military personnel are used in non combat areas like, customs, border control, passport control in the airports, and other menial non combat security positions (like in the malls). It’s the men who actually go and pick up a weapon and do the actual combat thing.
fed-up on
February 3rd, 2007 9:35 pm
My biggest beef with women in the military would be having to serve under a woman. That’s not right. What if I were in the military and I had a female sergeant or leader above me? It’s humiliating for men to take orders from a woman who is in a position in power above him. That is why I think women should not be in the military, except as nurses, and I think they should not be allowed to be in government at all, except being allowed to vote.
Sam on
February 3rd, 2007 9:35 pm
I agree. Women should never be in charge over men.
They don’t earn their way.
vesendak on
February 3rd, 2007 11:08 pm
There is an episode of Star trek where Kirk and Spock wind up on a planet that has been at war with another planet in the same solar system but instead of actually blowing each other up the war is run on a computer simulation and then the so called casualties are expected to politely report to a vaporization chamber for destruction. This way the society and technology can keep evolving and the species continues to exist. Women on our planet would have to report in the millions for summary vaporization to account for all the blood men have spilled protecting them before we could have true equality. So yea I agree With Mr. Simmons.
Taras on
February 4th, 2007 5:50 am
I couldn’t have said it better myself. To quote the malignant and destructive alien machine who thought Captain Kirk was it’s creator, women are “a mass of conflicting impulses.” Gene Rodenberry never knew just how unwittingly he described the modern female.
Stargazer on
February 4th, 2007 9:22 am
My best friend who was in the Rangers, combat medic, told me about women in the military. The special privileges they get, yet cry because that is even to hard for them, then they cry because they are not seen as equals at the same time.
In combat situations it would be a catastrophe. Aw would shoot all our men and drag them to the enemy. Aw are natural born killers. They are more barbaric then being in the middle of a swarm of mad hornets while covered in honey. An Aw has proven to be able to kill the ones who are closest to her, husband, boyfriend, her own children, with absolutely no remorse or conscience at all.
pmydkm01 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 11:14 am
To John:
“The ideal today is the **** or independent career woman, and actually i’m attracted to the **** type woman, who isn’t. No no on the career woman ick!! anyway,.. But, Ill be damn if i’ll marry her!! or let her have my children, or take care of her 2/3 kids with other men.”
You do love generalizing, don’t you. I bet you also love murdering the English language with your inane posts. Just for the record, I don’t know any career women who have 2/3 kids, or any woman that has 2/3 of a kid. That would be kind of strange. I’m thinking you’re just scared of the “independent career woman” because of her independence. If you look around, there aren’t that many women that stay at home with kids compared to over 40 years ago. Good for you if you want a woman you can dominate over and make her take care of the kids for you while you sit back and watch football. I, for one, would want to marry a woman like my mother – strong, independent, but still a caring mom.
pmydkm01 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 11:18 am
I agree. I think criminals, no matter who they are, should get equal coverage. If you do something bad, one should get his/her deserved punishment. None of this going easy stuff.
The only reason why it’s easy to flush out “bad” women and “bad” men is because they take up so much space and attention. Let’s face it: good people just aren’t that interesting. Unfortunate, but it makes the hunt for a good partner in life to be worthwhile at least.
pmydkm01 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 11:20 am
What is so bad about women being in charge over men in the military or the government?
In the government, if a woman has earned her way there like Nancy Pelosi, then she should be there. What would make this world better is not setting limits on what women could do, but make jobs/positions be merit-based for qualification. Unfortunately, a lot of humans don’t have that kind of intelligence, some of you guys here included.
pmydkm01 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 11:22 am
True. The divorce laws need to be revamped a little. However, not every divorce is the same, and percentages are only a generalization of data collected.
pmydkm01 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 11:34 am
Of course, Rev. Porkchops is “infallible.” Denying the right to choose government representatives, who represent EVERYONE in the nation, to roughly half the nation’s population would make the world a better place. Good job on figuring that one out. Don’t know if you’d feel the same were us men in women’s shoes. Your little brain probably couldn’t comprehend it. Logic must be too much for you.
(Yes, my personal pet peeve is people who generalize on a daily basis without thinking and blame what’s wrong in the world on one thing they don’t like because of bitterness. Complainers are a pain in the @ss. I have no mercy or patience for stupid people like that. I agree that radical feminism is bad, but so is unheeded and radical masculism. Gender egalitarianism is the way to go. If you don’t like the way society is headed because you can’t stand men and women striving for equality, I strongly suggest you move to mainland China. They love them some inequality.)
Khankrum, as for your argument, from where do you get your astounding pieces of evidence? I think someone has a little obsession with hyperbole.
pmydkm01 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 11:49 am
All right, sue me for commenting twice, but I had to comment on Beartrap’s argument at the bottom of the post. The reason why obesity has climbed is not because of women in the workforce. It’s because of bad choices and men not learning how to do anything to take up their share of the burden. Take this story for example. I had a female coworker who had two sons. She also did the traditional motherly things like laundry and cooking, etc. One night, she worked overtime, thinking that the kids and husband would find some way to feed themselves. After all, it was just one night. No. She came home at 9 to find them all huddled around the TV and complaining about no food. This is the type of people I hate. They see a problem but don’t do anything to find a solution. Could they have maybe called in a pizza? Could someone have taught them how to cook so something like that would not happen? The answer is yes.
Even now, women who do the traditional stay-at-home thing don’t necessarily have thinner, healthier kids. It’s the foods that one CHOOSES to eat, not the lack of time to eat healthful foods. Also, Americans increasingly have a sedentary lifestyle because of the invention and easy access of electronics and kids entertaining themselves, regardless of whether their moms are working or staying at home. Life wasn’t always peachy in the “good old days”. We’re just looking at the past through what we know of it, surgically attaching the rose-colored glasses to our face as we do so. Men who correlate the degeneration of society with women being liberated to go out and make their own money are just Mama’s boys who don’t know how to do things for themselves. Pathetic.
cherry_jujube2 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 11:53 am
I feel sorry for that poor guy. Any woman who accuses him of not helping her is just as crazy as the wife in my book.
I’m sorry for all the men who fall for women like her. I get the feeling I’m one of the few “sane” women in this world, unfortunately. The other members of my *** that are detestable tend to grab more attention than people like me. (This is not to say I am submissive or traditional in any way. I’m just not as super-emotional or contradictory as a lot of other women I see. Maybe this is why the women friends I have are a lot like me.)
cherry_jujube2 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 11:58 am
The toy aisle scares me too. I would never buy dolls like that for my daughters, if I have any. Horses are better, and Legos are best. (Man, I loved Legos. Yes, I was a bit of a tomboy…so what?)
cherry_jujube2 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 12:10 pm
I think Shauna says it the best. The rest of you just want a scapegoat.
cherry_jujube2 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 12:16 pm
I agree. The hush-hush treatment of female criminals is unfair. If you’re a criminal, you’re a criminal. It’s only equal.
cherry_jujube2 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 12:17 pm
The divorce laws do need to be reformed a little, if only because of those women who use it to their advantage. They make me sick.
cherry_jujube2 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 12:23 pm
Some of the arguments in the comments are scary. (i.e. John) It’s true, though, that those women who do not freely choose to be stay-at-homers (and even some who do) can be pretty scary. I think it’s their personality (the ones who choose to be stay-at-home) that make them act so crazily. They can’t and don’t like to work under anyone else, so they make others listen to them. The ones who are forced to stay-at-home – most likely, they are unhappy and act out their frustration. People just need to figure out what works best for them.
p.s. – to John: not all career women have 2/3 kids. (I don’t know of any person who has 2/3 of a kid. Career women, or “b*tches” as you call them, are not that bad. I don’t know what you have against them. Fear, perhaps?)
cherry_jujube2 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 12:28 pm
If someone has earned the right to be in a governmental position, then let him/her be there. Methinks the appointment of Nancy Pelosi does not make you happy. Same goes for the military. Like the post said, don’t shame them. Be proud of what they are doing for you – protecting the country so that you can still have free speech and such to say things like this on the Internet.
pmydkm01 (A Female) on
February 4th, 2007 12:51 pm
All right, I’ll make my comment less fiery if it will get me heard.
This is why more women should go into the workforce and find ways to stay there. This is why girls should not be taught to only look forward to mooching off the husband’s money when older while lazing around the house with the kids. Sure, not all stay-at-home moms are that mercenary, but some definitely are. They don’t want to go out and work for their own money that they can spend themselves without driving the husband insane. This is why encouraging women to stay at home is just making the problem worse. (Sorry to burst your bubble, John.)
Yes, a lot of women buy into herd mentality, but a lot of men do too. It’s natural for our instincts to follow the pack. Those who refuse and think for themselves are smarter. This goes for both women and men, Curiepoint. (However, I agree that men’s health needs to be more widely advertised. No wonder men fear going to the doctor – no one’s talking about their problems, so why should they be the first one? I admit I’m reluctant to go too.)
Kat Cirelli on
February 5th, 2007 7:26 am
Ok not all women stick together, he should have dumped her ages ago
Timontop on
February 5th, 2007 8:13 pm
One of the preparations you should make for making Valentine’s Day your Independence Day – is get yourself a Singelringen. What is it? A ring from Sweden that is apparently being worn by singles all over the world to say – I’m single, I like it. Wear it on your right hand (sorry doesn’t cover up the tan mark on your wedding ring finger. Or put it on a chain around your neck – and get yourself out there! It totally works for me.
Delf on
February 5th, 2007 10:36 pm
First, let me say, I’m a new reader. I love the site. Keep up the good work! I recently dumped my girlfriend of two years after she started putting the pressure on me to get married and end my life of happiness.
The whole article about boycotting Valentines day is great. I hate this holiday. It such a scam. Wal-Mart has two damn isles devoted to this holiday.
Last years valentines day with my now ex-girlfriend was a disaster. I spent damn good money on flowers that died within a week, a gift, a nice dinner, and a romantic card with something special written inside by yours truly (and yes, I wrote it myself!). In the end, I got the short end of the stick.
It seems like as a single guy, everywhere I go, I’m reminded of the fact that I am single. This evening, Dr. Neil Clark was on TV advertising E-Harmony.com and telling me that I need to “log on” to his site to take his free 8-million point personality test. Where the hell did this guy come from? I mean, one day, this man just appeared out of thin air and was on TV promoting his dating website.
So where did he come from? The answer is simple: A freak genetic engineering accident. Check out my startling scientific results: Orvill Redenbacher + Don Knotts = Neil Clark.
The whole fact that women wish that guys would blow all their entire paycheck on them is just pissing guys off around the world. They need to be happy with a card, and a simple gift. And give us a break the next time we forget to put the toilet seat back down.
Again, thank you so much for the great site. I am forwarding this site to all my friends that have had it with dating and guys who are unhappily married (including my mom and dad).
Khankrumthebulgar on
February 6th, 2007 8:28 am
I will embrace Valentine’s Day with Enthusiasm when Steak and ******** Day is celebrated equally by the “Fair ***”. The average expenditure for women in the US is nearing $400 and the males less than $40. This is what women think of as equality. Nuts to that garbage. This is being heavily promoted by Merchants, Jewelers, Florists, Gift Card Companies, The Confectionary Industry etc. Of course the Restaurant Industry loves it. Men dispise it, as it is Legal ************. Don’t give enough… you sleep on the couch. And your needs? Are an afterthought.
Khankrumthebulgar on
February 6th, 2007 8:32 am
Mary Winker was caught on camera partying at a bar. The wife of a minister who shot him in the back with a shotgun. She squandered their money on a Nigerian Get Rich Quick scheme scam. Can you say greedy idiot? Yes we also had yesterday an astronaut (female). A forty something married mother of three. Who drove from Houston Texas to Florida, with the intention of kidnapping another female rival for the attention of a male astronaut.
She is being held without bond. And faces life in prison for attempted kidnapping. This has become common behavior. And we have another woman jailed for killing her husband for an insurance payoff.
Amanda on
February 6th, 2007 11:29 am
Well, i came across this article and absolutely agree with it…however, I am female…..I dread this Valentines day because I was recently divorced last April….now this day used to be my most favorite day ever…not because I received jewelery, or anything…for that matter, I would always go purchase gifts…take HIM out to dinner or make him a dinner and a very special dessert that included me afterwards…he had no complaints ever…it was always “i’m sorry that i didn’t get you anything” and I always responded that it was okay…17 years of this…17 years…..I kissed HIS ***…..I also babied my two chidren on this day as well (more than usual it was like another Christmas)…so live and learn gentleman…i really don’t blame you at all…i guess I either didn’t deserve anything…or he just wasn’t “into it”….oh well…as far as I’m concerned **** VALENTINES DAY AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT!!!!!!
pmydkm01 (A Female) on
February 6th, 2007 4:48 pm
Bah. Valentines’ Day. I just like buying candy for myself. (Don’t tell the dentist!)
Being single rocks. (I don’t watch much TV either, so no stupid commercials for me!)
Tom on
February 7th, 2007 10:17 am
It is important to note that the mainstream media bends over backwards to “understand” and “explain” acts of murderous horror committed by middle-class women, but not those of middle-class men.
Why? The mainstream media’s audience, the people the ads are aimed at, are middle-class women.
When that crazy mom in Texas, Andrea Yates, drowned all her children, female media commentators talked themselves hoarse about how understandable it was that a mom with five kids could just “snap,” and how “we’ve all come close,” etc. She commits mass murder, and because she is a surrogate for the television audience, she pretty much gets a pass. But when a black man (or for that matter any man) commits heinous crimes, all the talk is about tougher penalties.
So a woman who kills is “just like you and me,” but a man who kills is an animal who should be put down.
It all goes back to who’s spending the money that rewards the advertisers that support the media outlets: middle-class women.
Charles on
February 8th, 2007 6:43 am
“ALWAYS serve fresh orange juice for him at breakfast”. And Ms. Angel further states that “only whores use frozen.”
This is priceless…
James P on
February 8th, 2007 7:59 am
Holy cow, why do women always feel the need to chime in with the “i’m not like that” response?
Of course, you’re not like that. You don’t understand what is being said here and invidual actions don’t make up for the failure of the SYSTEM.
So to put it succinctly, most men reading this could give two ***** about your personal anecdotes about how you aren’t like that when we know that you are entitled to be like that due to the corruption in our government, family courts and culture.
Grunt on
February 9th, 2007 11:11 am
First off, ingrid, when more then 70% of divorces are initiated by the western female AND the western female is awarded child custody 9 TIMES OUT OF 10…it is oficially safe to lump all western females in the same category. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies like a duck…it must be a wombat, eh ingrid?
Western men must be aware that the mindset (propaganda?) that ingrid puts forth is the ambiguity that western females thrive in. The western female swims in your good faith, as there it finds the happy hunting ground. Give it the benefit of the doubt, and you will pay the price.
Second, the wife in the above story is clearly creating a hostile environment for the husband in the hopes he will simply up and leave. Thus granting the parasite wife the house and alimony under the guise of “abandonment”.
He married it, so he deserves what he gets.
mike.hunter on
February 10th, 2007 11:44 am
“I have lived with my boyfriend for eight years. We share everything, but he will not take that last step and get married. If something was to happen to him today, I would be out in the cold. I have helped him establish a home, fixed it up, and take care of it, but my name is nowhere on anything.”
I thought that is what a will and/or life insurance is for.
These guys are right, the financial and legal liabilities of marriage have become too significant and one sided to ignore. Besides marriage is suppose to be an essentially religious construct between to individuals and the god(s) of their choice. And the government has no business meddling with religion in the first place. The government should only be able to issue ‘civil unions’ that two individuals can enter into so that they may gain certain legal rights or responsibilities. Until the government butts out of marriage I see no reason to voluntarily accept the potentially catastrophic liabilities that come along with it.
steve on
February 12th, 2007 12:36 am
I don’t know if any of you remember but there was a story about this kid who murdered his girlfriend. Seems he was a millionaire from a disfiguring accident as a child and his face was messed up. Anyway, the white guy hooks up with a black girl and she is from a righteous religious family; so its said (I’ve met a lot of such righteous in my time). Anyway, they have a romance and voila- she ‘becomes’ pregnant (at least that was the story). The tv story defends this ***** by saying she approached her boyfriend about the pregnancy and he wanted her to have an abortion (he may have wanted that indeed). Anyway, she winds up dead and he goes to jail.
As it turns out he did the deed but as it turns out also she ain’t pregnant. I’ll just bet she knew that she wasn’t pregnant but this righteous religious hypocrite saw the ‘deep pocket’ and what the hell, sins can be forgiven so what’s a little ha ha ‘white’ lie. The tv show didn’t even hint of that being a possibility and there was no sympathy for ‘a crime of passion’ like there probably would be for a woman especially with anything involving kids. All I can say is this is one screwed-up double standard society.
steve on
February 12th, 2007 1:38 am
Hey Ed: Too bad she couldn’t be as obsessive about ***,eh?
Mike Hunter on
February 12th, 2007 8:02 am
This is standard fare for the military especially the Marine Corps or Army. The problem is that you ship millions of males to the same area with an extremely limited supply of females. The results are of course horrific. Young guys around 18 or 19 marrying some washed up stripper with 3 kids who ***** everyone in sight and whores hereself out all while emptying her new suckers bank account while he’s away. I’ve seen the same story play it’s self out over and over again.
The problem is supply and demand. There is a very low supply of women and a high demand for them (remember most people in the military are horny young guys) the results are trainwrecks like this one.
Amanda on
February 13th, 2007 1:34 pm
OCD my ***…..this isn’t obsessive compulsive disorder…what this IS, is plain laziness….his only fault is not having her get up off her lazy *** and making her clean up this ****. I am not a ******* or a woman hater or a man hater for that matter…I was married for 17 years and my ex-husband never, ever had to come home to a dirty house…this was while I was working 8 hours a day…working out at least 2 1/2 hours a day it still remained clean…..there isn’t any excuses…just lazy ******* not wanting to be clean….it’s disgusitng…my sister “suffers” from this same disorder…and she wants to get married…please….i wouldn’t wish this on anybody…..men…take care of what kind of person you date…women you do the same….either *** can be lazy and sloppy….but why?
Mike Hunter on
February 14th, 2007 10:13 am
“Gender egalitarianism is the way to go. If you don’t like the way society is headed because you can’t stand men and women striving for equality, I strongly suggest you move to mainland China. They love them some inequality.”
Finally the voice of reason. The problem is that people tend to at least listen to radical feminists or even moderate feminists while totally ignoring the systematic discrimination in our legal system towards men. If a woman complains about the “glass ceiling” in her workplace people take note.
But if a man complains that marriage laws, child support laws, abortion laws, abandonment laws, the retirement age, ****** harassment laws, attitudes about violence, parent leave regulations, etc. are sexist and discriminate against him; then people either look at him like he’s crazy or make light of the situation. Sexism both towards men and women is a equal opportunity oppressor. But society as a whole doesn’t seem to understand that.
Taras on
February 15th, 2007 6:55 pm
I have the same thing to say about Valentine’s Day that I do about Christmas, Bah Humbug! Both are so shamelessly commercialized, the real meaning and spirit of these days has been lost forever. Taking your lady out for a nice dinner and a movie yes, but buying her diamonds every year? No way! The companies Gemisis and Apollo are a man’s and his wallet’s best friend. Gem quality, man-made diamonds that can only be spotted by an expert or a special machine are here, now. Imagine, a yellow 5 carat diamond made to order, LOL…….then telling her, it did not form 200 miles down inside the Earth’s mantle, it came from a lab and was made to order, right down to the exact color. As for our culture and government, they’re done for. They’re in a death dive from which there will be no recovery, it’s just a matter of time before our society collapses and another one takes it’s place.
skippy666 on
February 17th, 2007 1:35 pm
Thanks for the great post. I never even finished watching the first video it was so embarrassing and shocking. Loved the extra information. The women has ended up just another money and celebrity driven *****!
dataguy on
February 17th, 2007 2:10 pm
The first time I saw a clip of this woman on Jimmy Kimmel, I thought for sure she was just some actress they’d hired and it was all a big put-on. But she’s just so far out there that if you’d set out to invent someone like this you probably couldn’t come this close.
See, what I want to know is, what the hell kind of a guy marries a woman like that?
PS…Dang! I just watched the Jay Leno clip! It took me a minute to realize that that was Roseanne Barr sitting next to her on the couch! Wow, Jay actually managed to find the one other woman on the planet who’s more ****** up than Marguerite Perrin! Even Roseanne seems to be astonished that there actually is a woman out there who’s more of a head case than she is!
Lucky on
February 18th, 2007 5:50 am
Incorrect my small-minded selfish child thinking female nazi friend(s):
MEN ARE THE SCAPEGOAT
PERIOD
Lucky on
February 18th, 2007 6:08 am
Justice……
Lucky on
February 18th, 2007 6:31 am
the only reason the gov’t “butted” into marriage (1850’s USA) was to prevent black men from marrying white women.
Another moronic gov’t intervention that with the aid of income tax and ever expanding gov’ts has led to the sh*thole were in.
Lucky on
February 18th, 2007 6:43 am
man commits crime does 10 times the time
woman commits crime = mans fault for driving her to it…….
today’s modern man is to moronic to understand this simple concept:
Equal rights = Equal responsiblity
Lucky on
February 18th, 2007 3:27 pm
Laziness? Nope.
OCD? Yup + a hidden desire to be in control – thus “not letting” the garbage pile in the house “control her.”
Simple psychology.
Bruce on
February 21st, 2007 12:02 pm
I have been married to my Mexican wife for over 30 years. When we married, there was no engagement ring, and she bought her own wedding ring.
It was a second marriage. She ordered a nice floor length dress from J.C.Penney’s. When it came, it had a bad seam. She didn’t have time to exchange it, so she tacked that seam, and we got married.
After the wedding, she concluded she didn’t want to keep a dress that was defective. And, she didn’t want to exchange it and keep a dress she didn’t wear to get married in.
So, she sent the dress back and got her money back. Hey, this really happened. I’m not making it up.
On Valentine’s day, we do a hat trick of some sort. The best things in life are free.
Sorry to rub it in, guys. But, foreign wives are the best, if you are smarter than a rock.
Bruce on
February 21st, 2007 12:09 pm
Women should not be in power until the number of women dying in defense of this nation is equal to the number of men who have died defending this nation. You women always talk about how women should be in power, but don’t want any of the bad stuff men do.
Good job, Chuckzul, I was going to comment that it isn’t true women in Israel are in combat, except by accident. Read the WEAK LINK, which tells they tried it, and casualty rate went way up, so they no longer do it.
I had a buddy once who said if it weren’t for ***, we men would marry our fishing buddies. People we enjoyed being with, who know when to be quiet.
Bruce on
February 21st, 2007 12:36 pm
I know of two such women. Or, knew.
In the 80’s, I worked with a man. We went to his little acreage to buy some plants or something. The place, and the barn which was his refuge was spotless, but he did not invite us into the house.
A friend was invited in, and said the trash was approximately waist high, with only narrow walk ways from door to door. Opened cans of fruit sat on cabinets, covered with mold. She would not let a single thing be tossed out.
Any man who acted like that would be forced out of his own home, and would end up sleeping under a bridge in -30 degree weather. Since it’s a Goddess/woman, she gets supported by a man’s work.
The second example I never saw. A distant cousin was working on family genealogy, and discovered the old family bible had been in the possession of a certain woman, who died probably in the 50’s. He contacted the man who was at that time estate administrator for that city in Minnesota, who told him it was not possible to properly dispose of her possessions, because when he went in after she died, the place was filled with trash.
They brought in the dump trucks and men with shovels, and if anything good such as a family bible was in that mess, it was not practical to locate it in the mess.
Bruce on
February 21st, 2007 12:45 pm
Nonsense to the women who order us not to stereotype women as all bad. Intelligent men MUST view all women as bad, because it is not possible to tell the majority of freaks from the few decent women. If we pick the wrong one, we are destroyed.
If you women would police other women, that is, demand they be punished when they commit adultery or do acts of violence, or mistreat their men, we could afford to take a chance.
You never do that. You sit, totally ignoring the evils done by women, and wait for men to criticize the fiends, then you verbally attack the men and tell us just how we are supposed to act and think. Enough already of your nonsense.
Bruce on
February 21st, 2007 12:46 pm
Damn! Are they allowed to post that picture of my ex-wife on the Internet without her kid’s authorization?
Henry on
February 22nd, 2007 10:13 am
So many women are simply into TRAPPING men into marriage, getting pregnant & then switching into a “MOMMY MODE” with you as the virile male left to your own devices… *** is so far removed from her mind that you may as well go out & find poon elsewhere… So mommy mode lasts until they kids are grown & gone… Then you can COUNT ON a divorce within 1-2 years after that.
The last 5 years of my marriage, it was *** about 7 or 8 times… I can so relate… Marriage… There’s nothing in it for men… Save all your money that you would have spent on that diamond ring… Buy YOURSELF something nice instead… Take a vacation without her… There’s plenty of single women vacationing too that you can hook up with… Vacation *** after all does not count (in the mind of a woman).
Reverend Porkchops on
February 22nd, 2007 3:37 pm
************, while still illegal in most parts of America, is nonetheless already practiced almost everywhere in America. Trust me, the young ladies at the truck stops across America, going from truck to truck, are not selling the truckers girl-scout cookies. Since ************ is already widely practiced all over America, M. Hunter’s comments are nothing more than wishful thinking. He paints his own utopia while being completely oblivious to the reality that ************ is readily available across America, and yet we see none of the supposed utopian benefits that M. Hunter claims will result. The only thing legalizing ************ will accomplish, is lowering the price, and not by much, if any at all. Also, M Hunter forgets to mention the downside of legalizing ************, which is where a man gets so used to paying for the company of women, that when he doesn’t pay for a woman all he can do is stutter and mutter like a foolish idiot before her, because he doesn’t know how to relate to the opposite *** in any other way than “how much?”. Lastly, if you are a man and you agree with the man-hating feminists at NOW that ************ should be legalized, I think that should raise some red flags in the ol’ tinker upstairs, if the ol’ tinker is still working anyways. They don’t call ‘em “man-hating” for nothing, and the man-haters want to legalize ************ so they can destroy men in America by making as many men as possible bumbling idiots unable to relate to the opposite *** in any other fashion than “how much b*tch?”. If that kind of life appeals to you, good luck with that. Myself, I aspire to a more full life, but to each their own.
Systems1082 on
February 23rd, 2007 12:47 pm
I learned a valuable lesson for a lifetime when I was in my late teens-early 20’s. I dated a girl who used *** to get whatever she wanted from me. Just once! Once this happened I immediately started my way down the road of not falling for it. She was from a very prominent family in TX and she demanded I take her to a formal dinner, and to buy her a bracelet. I couldn’t afford this at the time, but she didn’t care about this, or even me, it was ALL about HER. She embarrassed me in front of the jeweler so badly that he remembered me when I came back. I knew she would dump me if I didn’t get the bracelet, so I went back to see if I could get it on “payments” he did me one better, he said I’ll loan it to you with a returnable deposit. I then proceeded to dump her, call her best friend and took her to the dinner. This was bad enough for her, but when she saw the very bracelet on her friend she went batsh!t, and was escorted out of the ballroom. I returned the bracelet the next day and the jeweler asked how it went, “like a charm”. Long story short, if a woman even hints about holding/using *** dump her on the spot. Once women have their only tool taken from them, they have no options but to play nice. Just don’t give in when they offer *** and see the confused look on their faces. It’s priceless!
mfsob on
February 23rd, 2007 3:30 pm
Exactly right – when you take away their ***** power, you take away ALL of the power of the modern American woman. And that’s a good thing.
Systems1082 on
February 23rd, 2007 4:42 pm
“Exactly right – when you take away their ***** power, you take away ALL of the power of the modern American woman. And that’s a good thing.”
I learned this lesson 20+ years ago and it’s made my life so much better. I only date woMEn between 21-26, they show the funniest looks when their “sexuality” doesn’t influence me because they know I’m not ***. They don’t have power over me, and they know it.
I read a post that woMEn have power over men via ***, and men have power over woMEn via commitment, this is very true!. I stayed single and in power my entire life, no way was I going to let a woman take that or anything else away from me.
Fellas, just remember she’s not the only one with power, as long as you have the commitment card, you’ll win out.
vic on
February 23rd, 2007 9:01 pm
she’s still better than the one I have…hang in there man.
Shauna on
February 24th, 2007 3:06 pm
Hah! So much for matchmakers and **** like that.
Seriously, when it comes to relationships, nothing is better than good old “DIY” and a lot of time casually knowing one another before jumping into marriage.
And people wonder why marriage and the state of relationships are in the *******.
If we can’t even choose our mates with the highest standards in place, how can we ever hope to be happy?
You need a healthy amount of self esteem and self worth before you even think about getting into a healthy relationship.
Shauna on
February 24th, 2007 3:30 pm
I really wish that so many other women weren’t such jerks with their ridiculous whining, with their materialism, with their accusations and their blamegames.
I mean, I find women to be pretty attractive people, just like guys do but I don’t think I could handle dating them.
And, yes, even though I’m a woman, I can hardly deal with being around them. My mom’s crazy (she created a ******* food allergy that doesn’t exist and constantly goes on about it), my sister’s a manipulative *****, and I’ve pretty much lost touch with all my female friends because they’re so goddamned demanding (we have to have lunch dates, and hang out, and talk on the phone about boring **** like makeup and shoes, and I’ll put up with that **** if it’s a good friend who other than her vapid materialism is actually intelligent most of the time).
The only woman I look up to and dearly love more than anything is my grandmother, because she freakin’ rocks. Smart, talented, selfless, giving, and fun to talk with.
Why are people over there all the time? Why do people love the feeling of freedom and love that eminates from her house? Maybe it’s because she is one of the only sane and decent females I’ve been able to model my life and behavior off of. My dearest wish is to fulfill and care for anyone who enters my home, whether it be a small apartment or a full sized house. And I don’t find it “boring” to go watch an action flick or walk around, or whatever. And I have a huge ******* *** drive. I sometimes think that I would be better off as a guy, but I like my body shape too much. Heh.
My friend “Dave” has this new girlfriend he met on the internet. Of course, she took pictures of herself in flattering angles, even though she’s probably about 300 pounds. And of course, her online profile and her personality on instant messaging are all about how she has such “high” self esteem, and is so independant.
And then, later, he tells me that she wants HIM to bus over the hill to meet HER, because she’s NEUROTIC about meeting his friends, and can’t deal with them. She doesn’t like to drive, or go places on her own, and she’s still living at her parents while going part time to a JC and not working at all.
And I’m sitting there just wondering what the hell he sees in her. And then it hits me. He hasn’t had *** since his last girlfriend, and he’s horny as hell. He’s even made passes at me, but I just don’t get turned on by him, or I would have helped out.
So of COURSE he’s going to go head over heels, riding on busses for hours to get some tail. He goes on about how much he “likes” her but he’s been communicating with multiple girls and wants to have *** with any that are willing. Hell, legalized ************ would do him SUCH a favor, because he’s gone out with so many ******* psychos that I can hardly stand it. But then again, it’s not just their faults; because it’s obvious that he wants ***, and the whole false pretense is pretty obnoxious and obviousl.
Anyway, so I understand why men cheat. But you’ve also got to understand that there are lots of women who cheat because their husbands aren’t giving them the *** that THEY want, or their husbands are manipulating them with *** too. Yeah, it’s not as prevalent, but it happens, and it sucks.
Bottom line, if you really hate your spouse, get out of the relationship. You may think that it’s “****” or “exciting” to have some *** on the side, but it’s really ****** for both of you to be trapped.
I would rather be a **** and wanted than trapped by my possessions and unfulfilling relationships.
Mike Hunter on
February 24th, 2007 8:25 pm
PorkChops:
”************, while still illegal in most parts of America, is nonetheless already practiced almost everywhere in America… Since ************ is already widely practiced all over America, M. Hunter’s comments are nothing more than wishful thinking.”
I advocate legalized ************. Not illegal ************. There is a huge difference. You have obviously not lived in Italy, Spain, or any of the other first world countries where ************ is legal and overly regulated in an attempt to discourage it (as in Nevada). I have.
Legalizing ************ has large tangible economic and social benefits for both men and women. I’m not going to go to the trouble of repeating my point’s verbatim here for the sake of one ignorant poster.
Sufficed to say that the situation I wrote about above is the reality in other 1st world countries. Women were no longer able to hold men hostage with their Sexuality, men had an acceptable and affordable quality release for their ****** urges, and the guy just trying to ******** by a pretty woman didn’t have to pay though the nose just to get a shot at getting in her panties.
“Also, M Hunter forgets to mention the downside of legalizing ************, which is where a man gets so used to paying for the company of women, that when he doesn’t pay for a woman all he can do is stutter and mutter like a foolish idiot before her, because he doesn’t know how to relate to the opposite *** in any other way than “how much?”
Don’t project your problems onto other people. If you have trouble talking to women then that is your hang up. I suggest you deal with it. There are plenty of men in countries where ************ is illegal such as the United States that have trouble talking to women. There are also plenty of men in countries that have legalized ************ that are very comfortable around the opposite ***. An individual’s social skills have nothing to do with the legal status of ************. Ironically most of the men who are too nervous to go talk to a girl in a bar or a club are the same men who are too nervous to go to a ***** house.
”Lastly, if you are a man and you agree with the man-hating feminists at NOW that ************ should be legalized, I think that should raise some red flags in the ol’ tinker upstairs, if the ol’ tinker is still working anyways.”
Each idea should be judged by it’s merits and not blindly accepted or rejected by what organization does or doesn’t endorse it. Since the burden of independent thought is too much for then you I won’t waste my time trying to explain the issue any further.
System1082:
“I read a post that woMEn have power over men via ***, and men have power over woMEn via commitment, this is very true!. I stayed single and in power my entire life, no way was I going to let a woman take that or anything else away from me.”
That is true women do have power of men. The only problem is a woman especially a pretty woman has some degree of power over every man she comes into contact with. A man however ONLY has power over ONE woman IF she wants to be in a relationship with him.
The problem with the hot single woman market as with every market is one of supply and demand along with the scarcity of resources. There is an extremely high demand for hot women that will put out. Almost every straight man wants to sleep with beautiful women. The problem is that there is a very low supply of hot women and an even lower supply of hot women that want no strings attached ***.
The result of this tight market is that women have a huge trump card. They control the poon and they can use this to manipulate men. This can be remedied however by legalizing ************. By doing this the market is freed of artificial barriers and the availability of hot young women willing to have no strings attached *** rises. The result is that the market price of poon drops (to about $30 in my experience) and men no longer have to worry about wasting months of their time, hundreds of dollars, or going to the club and hoping to hit the jackpot.
Legalizing ************ would level the playing field. Pu$$y Power no longer has any power behind it because hot pu$$y is no longer a rare commodity and as such is less valuable. Both sexes can then interact with each other in a fair and equitable way and if one person makes ridiculous demands (such as a man paying for a $70 date and getting nothing it return or waiting 3 months to ********) the other party will simply walk away.
Steve MacLellan on
February 25th, 2007 1:44 pm
I don’t get it.
I was watching the video. He complained about an old freezer that had been sitting in the garage there for a year or more. Did he expect her to strap it to her back and haul it a few miles down the road to the dump?
No doubt he has a sick wife. I would think that would encourage him to take a on a little more responsibility for the upkeep.
If he could hold the movie camera to film the video, he likely didn’t have two broken arms.
Taras on
February 25th, 2007 5:36 pm
I agree with the others who stated women’s only power over men is the promise of some nookie. After my bad experiences with the opposite ***, I realized it was more than my own shortcomings behind them. I woke up to the fact that most American women are not worth the effort, and from that day forward, I became indifferent to them. Once a man doesn’t give a damn whether or not he gets laid with any given woman or not, she no longer has her main source of power over him. Thanks to ************, porn and other means, men have other ways of dealing with their pent-up ****** urges. The best weapon men have in the gender war is genuine or feigned indifference.
Shauna on
February 25th, 2007 6:47 pm
Promiscuity is NATURAL….and even biologically ENCOURAGED.
However, in today’s world, it helps to keep your health in mind too. As I said before, I would be WAY for prostitutes that are legal and kept up to high standards of cleanliness. I would far prefer a partner of mine to go do the horizontal tango with one of those people than to run off and leave or try to bridge the gap with desiring “two” families that he would divert time and money to.
In that situation, I would rather go it alone, because it’s not worth having a spouse that isn’t fully invested in my family. ******* on the side, however, that’s just ******* and I’m not having a problem unless I find out I have HIV or herpes or some other disgusting viral ***. Even the bacterial stuff is mostly curable. Emotional attachment and love to one or multiple others, however, is a big disgusting can of worms that I would hope any man in my life would have the good sense to leave alone.
I found this interesting article on promiscuity and was wondering what you think:
The Biology of Promiscuity
… Male promiscuity has always been relatively easy to understand. While total parental investment needs to be pretty intense, men have a dramatically lower minimum energy and risk investment in children than women do; one index of the difference is that women not infrequently died in childbirth under pre-modern conditions. This means genetic lines propagating through us hairy male types have an optimum strategy that tilts us a little more towards “have lots of offspring and don’t nurture much”, while women tilt towards “have few offspring, work hard at making sure they survive to breed”…
I concur that he should have stepped up to the plate and taken a more active hand. The first piece of trash that should have been kicked to the curb was her. I only fault him for the time it took him to realize it, but then again better late than never.
Sick? Not bloody likely. This is not an example of who should have done what in this situation. This is pure and simply an issue of her contempt for the home that they share, and her acting out like a petulant little runt of a kid. We have enough syndromes and ailments and vexations that bear labels to excuse anyone’s bad behavior. Oops, sorry…any woman’s bad behavior. A guy doing the exact same thing this piece of **** did would have been locked up on some sort of domestic abuse charge.
Unless there’s evidence that she has a brain tumor, I don’t buy for a minute that she is sick.
LB on
February 27th, 2007 12:43 pm
I am an attractive, straight, professional woman who never wanted to get married. I got married, got divorced and got real. I didn’t have kids because my ex-husband didn’t want them. Now, I basically have relationships that last about two years and then they turn in to friendships. I pay my way and am overly generous to my gentleman friends yet they hardly recipriocate. Why is it that men are only generous to the “self absorbed expectant *****”? Seriously. I hear a lot of moaning and groaning about how woman are sucking men dry but these women seem to be what you are attracted to.
What do you guys really want?
Curiepoint on
March 1st, 2007 1:02 pm
In a word: Brilliant.
Who hasn’t heard every single one of these charges levelled at them?
While annoying, it’s nice to see that our enemy can be so predictable and easily analyzable.
john on
March 2nd, 2007 9:32 am
touche’ (did i spell that right) ….. well anyway,……right on!!
Henry on
March 2nd, 2007 9:47 am
Why chase women who are always right. Better to have those who THINK you are rich chase after you. Guys, it’s not how good looking you are, it’s how comfortable & secure a woman thinks she is going to be with you (based on wealth or the perception thereof) that will have “10’s” running after you. Let them smell your money, your power but whatever you do, don’t be foolish enough to spend money with reckless abandon on them.
You can think of 20 guys who have or could have anyone they want but will never win a beauty contest (Billy Joel, Howard Stern & Bill Clinton to name a few). There’s a lot of American women who know how to put a nose-ring into unsuspecting fools and drag them along like a puppy dog (since we let them). Women from foreign countries have respect for the male & lead a much more sub-serviant role. That’s one reason why so many american men would rather get a female companion from abroad.
My current girlfriend’s mother is similar to this. The garage reminded my right away of her parents. Any time a place is cleared her mother begins to pile stuff up. Non of it is needed. Hell i have found rain checks that expired 4 years ago stuffed neatly into stacks in the kitchen. It is nuts, the house does not have rooms so much as little pathways to move. One distinction I will make is that there is not much in the way of garbage or rotting food. All be it the house is filled to the gills with **** it is not moldy food. What is funny is that they are always trying to get it under control or fix it. In the four years I have been dating their daughter I have seen the **** get moved from room to room but never just thrown out. Seriously it is just sad at this point. Plus side I work in tv and although i do not have any connections at discovery channel, I am in the DC area so for some reason they heed my threats of getting the discovery channel to do a show (some house take over where they throw trash out).
Billy on
March 3rd, 2007 1:04 pm
Yes Bruce, since they only posted half of her face, it can’t be argued that everyone will identify her. You know how many women have a nose and mouth just like your ex?
The mangina didn’t have the facts and was trying to report on the marriage strike. I believe that well over 51% of females in this country don’t deserve a man.
dataguy on
March 4th, 2007 8:04 am
Nice choice on the illustration.
Chrissy on
March 4th, 2007 11:36 am
Marriage isn’t everything. It seems to be a tie down to most already married couples. I am single and I commute to work everyday and talk to married people all the time. Most do nothing but ***** and complain and they’re never happy, while some are going through divorces and ***** that it costs a fortune to go through it. They use kids as excuses for staying in a miserable messy marriage.
Why waste years of your life waiting for the kids to grow up? The kids suffer more when parents stay anyway.
There’s not just smart men who won’t commit, there are plenty of smart women who won’t commit either. I’m a middle aged woman and I have found marriage to be a waste of money and time. My feeling is, live together, and don’t sign anything and if you are not happy, there’s no laws against you nor your ASSETS. Don’t marry someone with kids, I’ve done it, it’s bad (your aways 2nd, 3rd -whatever). Too much involvement with the child’s other parent – so right about that! Baggage is not worth it!
Do your own thing, be happy with yourself and know what you want in life. If a man/woman can’t live up to those standards, then what’s the point of trying?
JP on
March 6th, 2007 4:34 am
I don’t see how women have destroyed our economy with womens lib. I might not like women too much myself (in fact at 24, I’ve pretty much sworen them off and been forced into a life of celibacy. I guess I just gave up but, hey, if your an average looking guy and not a male model out here in L.A. in this day and age, then I’m confident you’re on the same level as I am.
To go so far as to say they “destroyed our country” is BS. Put that blame where its due; large companies cutting health care and retirement for there employees, so there stocks will go up a quarter of a point; outsourcing, illegal immigrants, the war in Iraq (which by the way we are now over 4 trillion dollars in debt over and we borrowed most of it from china), religious extremism (yeah the christian neo-con extremist just as much as bin-laden and his bunch), the near destruction of the Bill of Rights (thanks Bush!), the patriot act, ect.
Yeah I dont agree with a lot of the divorce laws out there either, and yeah there are quite a few bloodsucking women out there who will squeeze the life out of a man. I know. trust me. As I said, I grew up in southern California. While I do have the hottest pool to pick from, the majority are crazy or in love with themseleves. So no, I will never get married. And I was one of the nice guys. To go so far as to say that women ruined our country is stupid. Think before you talk.
Lisa on
March 7th, 2007 5:33 pm
I am a woman in her early thirties, now single, have two fantastic daughters (no sons ..thank god..haha!!) and whilst reading this, I could not help but chuckle to myself. I seriously believe this guy has wrote a lot of truth.
I feel my mother has tried to live her own unsuccessful life through me, I’ve had all the “You need to get a career first, forget men, they’re not worth it!” blah blah blah! It’s all a load of tosh! My Mum has not succeeded in her quest, however I think there are a lot of mothers out there, that have.
Women are sometimes failing as they are trying to do everything (Jack of all trades, master of none!) and I feel that the men get alot of **** because of it. We’re unhappy with our own failures and we take it out on them. I have however, got to fight the corner where my ’sisters’ are concerned. I for one, don’t care for money and what a man has in his **** pocket! I feel that many women are now seriously realizing (through their own mothers’ mistakes) that its a blessing to be ‘just’ a mother, lover and a friend and that the most simple and best things in life are free!
obbop on
March 8th, 2007 6:50 am
An example of brainwashed females.
I teach at the high school level. I am good at what I do. I grab and keep the majority of my student’s attention… a very difficult feat in today’s entertainment-oriented society.
I get their attention by being animated… I stand, move, point, lots of body language. I also use my voice to great effect. Quiet, loud, soft, tonal inflections.
I use the above to various degrees, depending upon circumstances.
Here’s an example. To get across the point that war is more than facts and figures I will describe how warriors confront each other on the battlefield, how emotions are present: rage, fear, etc. I want the kids to know that those were real, living people we are reading about.
While telling of those warriors I will pretend I am holding a rifle and growl as I approach the “enemy.” Just trying to get a point across. Also, to clarify things, I do not “attack” the students while pantomining.
In too many cases, after doing the above, a female student will raise her hand and declare that I have scared her.
Huh??? Scared her? I gave up trying to fathom the logic behind that statement. I HAVE noticed that those females tend to either use the exact same or very similarly-stated statement. I believe those females are uttering rote-learned words.
American females are, in my never humble opinion, being brainwashed by a society that desires emasculated males. Maybe I have a tinfoil hat upon my head but I fear that the “power brokers” of this country desire an emasculated male populace. Not much to fear from a citizenry whose males have been brought down to the feminine way of thinking and acting.
Curiepoint on
March 8th, 2007 7:40 am
I’m quite sure God just loves the thought of Jabba-The-Perrin, speaking for him; and brandishing the sword of her madness in his name.
Would any of you want her championing your cause?
obbop on
March 8th, 2007 7:57 am
Over and over and over…. on this Web site and others where males have the “nerve” to criticize females for whatever reason, I read posts from females that begin by asserting they agree with the predominant male opinions on whatever topic(s) are covered but……….
usually within a few brief sentences the “true essence” of females is revealed; as the females begin to lambast males.
Are these females so self-absorbed that they are unable to see the dichotomy within their written message?
After decades of observation and pondering my only conclusion can be that females are, in my male opinion, truly inferior intellectually to males.
Yes, females may have the emotional “edge” over males but that emotionality is not conducive to rational discourse.
I just wish females would butt out and realize that males are all-too-aware of the female’s feeeeeeeeeeelings. Gals, it’s those feeeeeeelings of yours that is part of the problem, one of the reasons that more than one male has decided that life without female entanglement is far superior than to one with females making a male’s life miserable.
obbop on
March 8th, 2007 8:00 am
Fifty years old, never married. Came to many of the conclusions I read on this post decades ago.
Basically, shunned the females due to a desire to have a simple basic life that is as worry-free as possible. No, not ***!!!!
Over the years I have been repeatedly told by other males that they envy me, that life with a female is full of woe and misery sprinkled with a few brief moments of happiness.
I refused to be brainwashed by societal mores. I heard my own drummer and marched to it.
Do I “hate” females? Nope. I just avoid them as much as possible. I also avoid males possessing what I categorize as an inferior intellect.
I am unsure to what extent causes females to be as they are; is it innate biological reasons, acculturation or a combination of the two. Whatever the reason, I advise all males to think long and hard about mingling with females. Sure, there are some decent females out there but I believe they are a minute minority.
obbop on
March 8th, 2007 8:14 am
Over and over, on the majority of female postings here and elsewhere, the same theme is apparent; and that is one of male bashing.
Rare is the female posting devoid of the emotionality that causes females to be, in my OPINION, unworthy of the least amount of my time or attention.
Just read the replies to what I have written here as likely proof of my assertions.
I left a post on a female reporter’s blog who works for the Lincoln (Nebraska) Journal-Star. Her blog entry was the typical knee-jerk rhetoric related to the trite “Females earn but 73-cents for every dollar males earn.”
I gave enough evidence to refute that rhetoric; how averages skew reality, how more females than males work part-time, how males enter higher-paying careers more often than females (even though those career paths are not only open to females but that females are desired!!!). I told of fields wherein females, on average, earn MORE than males such as real estate selling.
I also mentioned the federal statistics showing how males are far more likely to be injured or killed on the job. How males, due to their careers, are more likely to obtain life-long disabilities such as hearing loss and many other maladies.
So, what does the female reporter do with my post? Rebut it with facts and figures and personal experience? NO!!!!! She just deletes the post!!!!!
So, as females ignore a male’s words and spew out self-serving rhetoric, either in real life or on a message board, the little ladies continue their self-disillusionment and expect males to now bow to them.
It’s okay, girls. I have lived my life divinely without a single female in reach. Oh, yes, I am civil on the job and in public when I am forced to be in close proximity to your feminine “divineness.” But, as much as possible, I shun the female of the species.
Too many headaches dealing with females. It’s just not worth the emotional toll putting up with what I consider to, too often, but not always, be my inferior at so many levels.
Okay, girls, lambast and berate me. I am used to it and encourage it. As in the past, typically, female responses to my words only supports my assertions.
obbop on
March 8th, 2007 8:48 am
Where’s the outcry from the downtrodden females regarding the PROVEN double-standard when criminal sentences are handed down in the court room?
Time after time, females receive a lesser sentence than males for the exact same crime!!!!
How about the discrimination regarding males being required to register with the Selective Service system; also known as “the draft?” Where are the females demanding their equal rights there?
Yah’ know, in the past only males were drafted. Today, even though females can enlist and be exposed to hostile fire, females are far outnumbered by injured males in regards to hostile fire in foreign lands.
Where is the outrage???!!!!
Until females have to register for the draft and face the enemy on par with males, I am unable to fathom why females should be entitled to vote.
Along with equal rights should be equal responsibilities!!!
obbop on
March 8th, 2007 8:59 am
The post office has a stamp referring to breast cancer.
None for prostate cancer (a male only gland) and don’t expect to see one any time soon.
There are more lives lost to prostate cancer than to breast cancer.
Read elsewhere that for every federal dollar (our money taken from us by the threat of force) spent on breast cancer only one or two-cents is spent on prostate cancer research.
Fight for female equality!!!!!!!
Insist females have to sign up for the draft and be sentenced for the same length of time as males when convicted of the same crimes.
Curiepoint on
March 8th, 2007 10:34 am
“My beautiful and **** wife”….that’s a funny thing to call your right hand.
Allowing for the possibility that this is a guy and he is married, he sets his sights pretty damned low, in my opinion. He’s perfectly content to set the standard for the quality of his life by the act of “getting busy” with his spouse. As for her being beautiful and ****, well that’s entirely subjective, and even if it weren’t he’d damn well better refer to her as such or there’s no rutting to be had. He’s reduced himself to a sire of brood and a walking ***** for his woman.
The thing is, we never claimed to speak for all men, least of all to wretches like this guy. If he wants to remain plugged into his blissful ignorance of the herd mentality that is womankind, that’s his perogative. Regular *** wouldn’t compensate me in any way shape or form for the rest of the **** I have to put up with. If that’s all it took, I could have remained married, and just make the rest of my life about servicing her needs, her wants, her dreams…all the while having to ask for permission to do anything that doesn’t involve her or relate directly to what she wants.
Guys like this are in for a rude awakening. I know, because I used to be this guy.
obbop on
March 9th, 2007 3:34 pm
Hmmmm….. I am unable to correlate the proclaimed end of society with the end of the marriage institution as currently followed in the USA.
No proof given, either (see above post). Just an assertion.
I did the “live together” thing a couple times when younger. I offered and the female accepted what I termed a “mutual assistance pact.” If a car breaks down, call home and get a ride. If trouble occurs, I would do what I could to help and she would do the same for me.
However, no life-long pledges of undying love or care. Merely an agreement to try to make each other’s lives a little better until it was time for one of us to move along.
Seemed to work well and nothing was done to harm society in any way.
Cultures have always been in a state of flux. Change is inevitable while certain human actions and inactions remain constant. I imagine that most of us today could have existed in any society of the past. We may not enjoy it, our lives may have been brutal and short but that would merely have reflected the norm for the times.
Onward into the future we will stumble. Barring some extreme calamity such as an astroid impact that kills the majority or all of humanity, I expect that humans will keep on keeping on in some manner, no matter how unpalatable it may be to those who view existence with blinders on that limits one’s world view.
obbop on
March 9th, 2007 7:06 pm
Dearly beloved, we are gathered here together to discuss the 10 reasons why men won’t commit.
Well, no.
Instead, let us be fruitful and multiply those reasons and bring forth an eleventh reason.
Microwave ovens.
Huh????
Yes, microwave ovens and the food designed to be cooked within these glorious contraptions.
One less reason for the need to have a pesky whiny bothersome American “princess” within the abode to diminish your quality of life.
Males do not need a female to provide sustenance. The grocery stores are chock-full of a dazzling array of comestibles that merely require a few brief minutes in the microwave to provide a tasty nutritious meal.
No need to suffer thine own feeble attempts at old-fashioned cooking. No need to pursue a female to perform the chore. Nay!!!! Freedom is ours!!! Forgo the innumerable headaches and agonies associated with a modern female constantly within hearing range!!!
Freedom!!!! And yummy food.
Blessed be the microwave oven and the efforts of the corporations that have provided those microwavable meals for surely they have eased the ability of the male to lead satisfied fulfilling lives without being subjected to the multitude of negatives that too many of today’s self-centered anti-male females convey.
Hallelujah and hosannah.
obbop on
March 9th, 2007 7:29 pm
Pondered then pondered some more.
“…22% of the men declared no interest in finding their One and Only. That means two million American women will likely never see the inside of a wedding chapel.”
Those silly vacuous females, acculturated to behave and think as others believe they should. Unable to shrug off the brainwashing that makes them desire, often demand the incredibly expensive bauble holding a diamond as a proof of love, an incredibly expensive wedding and for a male to be their virtual slave for life.
So sorry, little princesses, too many of you are not going to witness your childish fantasies come true. You won’t even be able to sucker in a jaded old pudgy guy such as I.
You are unwanted.
So, what to do?
Well, America’s balance of trade with foreign countries is a negative number. We import more than we export. That is one of many reasons the average male blue collar worker is taking an economic beating nowadays.
But, we can offset that trade imbalance a wee bit!
In China and India, male children are valued much more than female children. The male child is a financial positive, while the female is a financial negative. Hmm…. kinda’ sorta’ in a roundabout way similar to the USA today. But, I digress.
Using various methods, parents in China and India are ensuring they have male children. There is an ever-growing percentage of males in those two countries without enough females being born to provide the few benefits that females provide to men. Thus………….
Export the millions of American females to India and China!!!! American females will find a ready audience of males desiring them. Yes, girls, your husbands await!
One thing, girls, be forewarned that the antics you use here in the USA will NOT be tolerated in either China nor India. You WILL know your place in society and you will conform. But, you WILL get that lusted-after husband so many of you apparently yearn for.
Go for it, girls. Too many American males have tired of your games and are unwilling to put up with you.
I just wonder how much we can charge those in other nations for our excess females?
Ever on
March 10th, 2007 6:14 am
Thanks for this website page. It is incredible, whenever I am between women talking, I hear one of these phrases. Next time, I will be ready to respond in a way that is required.
Curiepoint on
March 12th, 2007 4:34 am
A healthy relationship with women…what does that even mean? The merits and health of any kind of interpersonal relationship is subjective. Is it considered healthy that I merely employ no violence in my interpersonal skills, or should I just stop short of climbing into their clothes with them? There’s a very broad spectrum of what constitutes relating to other people, and women are, the last I looked, people; just not the kind of people I choose to associate with, by and large.
************ should at the very least be de-criminalized. Those men who seek the dubious comforts of women via this mechanism should be able to, as this represents what the modern world demands of inter-gender relationships: transitory, temporary, and for a price. I don’t fear women so much that I stammer and waffle in my speech and manners, and I maintain that if one acts thusly, it’s because they have Imbreed fear and a preternatural anemic self-image, not because they avail themselves of prostitutes.
It’s high time the law take its mitts off of how we relate personally to one another, short of not causing willful harm or impeding another’s life-course. The only reason that ************ is illegal is because it enforces a kind of one-size-fits-all personal morality upon us. It is long overdue that people be trusted to their own sense of right and wrong. Legislating this does not endow us with a better sense of justice.
truthseeker on
March 13th, 2007 10:26 pm
I recently attended a wedding (poor *******). He’d inadvertently knocked her up after a one-night stand at a party. Cue, four years later, her BIG Day. I took photos on the day and boy do they tell a story… he pulls away from his bride, but he looks happy with his daughter. They’ve had fights and breakups aplenty yet she wanted this marriage and he already knows there’ll be a messy divorce just a few years down the track.
Some of her clueless female friends were happily enthusing about what a great couple they make. Ahem; either these people are ignorant of what goes on when guests go home or they are fantasists. I guess these girls were looking forward to their own big days.
The morning after the ceremony I saw his daughter playing with her dolls. She had a bride and a groom and they were getting married. It’s cyclic, guys; unless people learn to see the bad as well as the good, unless we stop indoctrinating people, then the bad marriages will just keep happening.
truthseeker on
March 13th, 2007 11:55 pm
I totally agree with everything the article says about Valentine’s Day. But you left something out: I have a friend who takes emergency calls (Police, Ambulance, Fire Service) who tells me something else about Valentine’s Day. It has the second highest number of domestic disputes of any day of the year, after December 25th. Bitter, angry rows, bust-ups, fights, the occasional stabbing… it’s a **** holiday as it is and the sooner we ban commercial use of it the better, as far as I’m concerned.
darkbhudda on
March 14th, 2007 5:56 pm
If it is a man, he’s certainly not much of one. “He” even writes like a female.
But then again, maybe his wife was so kind as to write in for him as she knows exactly what he thinks. Just like the way they speak how “we” both liked this or “we” didn’t like that. Any husband that corrects her will have to deal with her sulking as the shock of the whole universe not agreeing with her every mood and thought is too much.
HAWKEYE on
March 15th, 2007 2:48 pm
I read somewhere that 1 in 4 women carry an *** these days… yuk!
Max on
March 18th, 2007 8:12 am
I like your way of thinking, as women demand far too much from men ie being the breadwinner, carer, **** husband, etc. I find all that too far-fetched since a lot of guys due to their testosterone need more ****** stimulation than women, so both sexes are unequal sexually. Men are better off with single women or by themselves, at least they can get what they want. Women should stay with women as they understand each other better.
Its not possible to stay with the same person everyday and be totally excited. So why not stay single, as fooling around within a relationship isn’t nice for both parties. I guess single is better. At least no-one gets hurt. Unless your values change!
suicidalspouse on
March 19th, 2007 3:52 am
The only thing that makes a woman happy is to know that a man is 100% miserable. If she thinks for a second that a man likes or enjoys something then her mission becomes from that moment on to take that something away. To any men who are thinking of getting married be warned, your *** life, your decision making, your peace of mind, your sanity, and basically your life will be over and you will find yourself masturbating in the shower at the thought of a life that doesn’t so closely resemble hell.
Neo on
March 19th, 2007 6:24 am
obbop: “In too many cases, after doing the above, a female student will raise her hand and declare that I have scared her.”
Calmly tell her:
NOW you know what males feel like when they get sent to fight a war–against their will– while the females get to stay nice & warm at home.
Reverend Porkchops on
March 20th, 2007 6:11 am
Men who want to see ************ legalized, to put it politely, are imbeciles.
Legalizing the exchange of *** for money, nationwide, opens a huge pandora’s box. A government beauracracy would need to be set-up for the control of the legal ************. Perhaps it would become the new Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and *******. New taxes would be created, taxes on actual services rendered, taxes on brothels. New government workers would be hired to test workers for diseases. Despite testing, diseases such as HPV would still spread because ******* do not stop HPV transmission, and you’d be hard-pressed to find/hire/keep a harlot who doesn’t have HPV as it is prevalent. New government workers would be hired to monitor the government workers that were hired to monitor ******* for money, because as they say, “no honor among thieves”. From a legal perspective, all **** laws would have to be re-modified, all ****** consent laws would have to be re-modified, all statutory **** laws would have to be re-modified, otherwise it would only be a matter of time before some 16 year old girl brings her case before the US Supreme Court stating that she has a Constitutional right to make a living selling *******, and if ************ is legal as a matter of law, it would go to reason that if a 16 year old can work at Wal-mart she can also work at Benny’s Brothel just the same. Age of consent laws will then be lowered, and lowered again, and lowered again. The legal ramifications of legalizing ************ nationwide are even far more ranging, I just give the age of consent issue as one.
All this is not “freedom”, and it’s not “liberty”, it’s nothing more than enslavement. All this because some geek who couldn’t ******** in a woman’s prison thinks that legalizing ************ will allow the geek to finally “score” whilst eliminate or lessen the geeks probability of contracting an *** — What a bunch of f’ing self-deluded dreamers. America has the loosest women in the world, whilst ************ is still illegal in most parts of America. That’s why it’s apt to describe men who wish to see ************ legalized as “geeks”. They are simply geeks who can’t ******** by the loosest women in the world. I can understand why American women would be in favor of legalizing ************, it’s because they want to put a price on something they have that’s worthless. A used-up, nasty dripping HPV-laden hole is a useless hole — putting a price on such a useless woman hole, is to such woman’s favor. That’s why the feminasties at NOW support legalizing ************, and I can understand that motive, but I can’t understand why any man but a geek would support putting a price on something that’s worthless, such is the height of stupidity. We have enough government beaurcracy, we don’t need more simply because some geek can’t ******** in a woman’s prison. Nothing further need be said, end of discussion.
Jessica on
March 21st, 2007 9:06 am
Writer: Jessica, BS, Master degree, home with kids, Married 5 yrs
Yes, I do agree…..before you have kids….you have no idea what you are getting into. Being a parent sucks sometimes…..well alot of the time. You lose most of your freedom and life as you knew it before they came along. Here are a few other points…..
If you are in a bad marriage…get out of it.
Don’t make this mistake….. ****** marriage….****** kids…..No, bad decision.
Do not take your taxes to someone who has never done them before…right!!!!
If you have never been home with kids….then you do not know how hard it can be. It is boring, taxing, draining, and isolating…..Getting my Masters Degree was a breeze compared
Try to keep you *** life exciting……..listen to each other
5 yrs……….that MAY be the only amount of time a woman it home with kids……it is not forever or we would kill ourselves
*the guy that invented this website had a ****** marriage…..and kids came along with that……..Move on from your nightmare….set yourself free man……..If a bad door opens….close that door
You made a bad choice and so did she…….Move on and take your kid for some ice cream
Second response
When my husband comes home from work, I hand him a beer and tell him to take 10 and chill out….get a shower. Then we have a beer together later..and eat a nice meal.
You need to understand each others roles……..Working outside of the home is exhausting and ……..being home with kids is hard and BORING!!
If you work full time…….what are your weekends like……with kids…they suck………parenting is not easy …..we all know that ….that is how it is all week…
Enjoy your family………….have a margarita with your husband….and wife…….enjoy your kids………it is only for a few years that a chic is home with the kids..
Michele on
March 21st, 2007 9:20 am
This is satire, right? Growing up in the 1970s my mom bought the feminist **** – worked my father through school and left her kids (my sister and me) as latch key children (hence our early drugs, drinking and bad grades in school). Eventually my ex-hippy parents became two income earning materialistic yuppies, both of whom had affairs, fought, divorced…typical two income family ****.
When I married and had my daughter, I started at busy home-based business so I could not do what my parents did. But that meant I was up most of the night with my baby and spent the entire day working, cleaning, changing diapers, shopping, cooking and working until midnight on the business…since my husband was a musician, his income was spotty so I took on more work, and even supported him through school.
Eventually with my saved income, we started a business which falls mostly on his shoulders, with me doing all the financials and support work. But I also raise our child (teaching, volunteering in school, etc) and – because my husband is the main income – I do shop, cook, clean, handle the hundreds of bills a household and manufacturing business require.
But the hardest thing I’ve ever done (and I’ve worked since the age of fifteen) is raise my child. There’s no amount of physical labor, office work…that is as grueling or important.
You’d have to be a neandrathal (no offense to the Geico guys), an ignorant, selfish, empty, soulless lunkhead to put a child into the world and want strangers to raise it so that you could do just like my parents did – just aqcuire stuff, stuff that means nothing when you die.
So good luck with your satire. It certainly can’t be serious.
Timole on
March 21st, 2007 1:45 pm
I like this site, and will visit more frequently.Also, I have personal experience with women from other countries, and the first thing I can say is that they show their appreciation for just being me, and made sure that ***** stayed out their purse.
In other countries I was consistently informed that men are men, and women are women, there is no room for feminism.
Timole on
March 21st, 2007 1:50 pm
In my opinion, Many American women are unappreciative and manipulative…bottom line. And its best to hump and dump, hit it and quit it when you can.
Henry is dead on with the difference between many American women and women from other countries that appreciate the male counterpart. And experience has shown me that – especially with the Latino women.
Timole on
March 21st, 2007 1:53 pm
(lol) love the picture associated with the story. Now that’s evidence of hump and dump, hit and quit.
Jarred on
March 22nd, 2007 7:42 am
This is a horrible story. Who is this author? Why would anyone want this to happen in America? I agree matchmaking is not a good idea, that’s why it is almost non-existant here in the States. But to actually want a legal reason for divorcing on the grounds of, “She is not sleeping with me,” is ridiculous! *** isn’t the reason for getting married. There are much “better” ways of achieving this goal of sleeping with whomever you want to. *** isn’t for self pleasure or self-gratification, but sadly enough, most Americans won’t get this through their heads anytime soon. We are too arrogant, prideful, and 60% of us actually think they are Christians!
anonymous on
March 22nd, 2007 12:24 pm
It’s “Gila” monster, not “Geela”.
Oh, and it’s pronounced “Heela”.
Curiepoint on
March 22nd, 2007 12:26 pm
As I stated on another forum, this is what bull prisoners do as part of the process of punking out another inmate; rendering them into as feminine a state as possible.
Mike Hunter on
March 22nd, 2007 1:50 pm
LOL “stand and deliver” classic. There is of course a simple solution to all of this. If a private venue that you go to installs one of these then just *** all over the seat or better yet the floor and never return again. Also if your wife/girlfriend demands that you sit down while you *** and you comply instead of putting her in her place (or dropping her on the spot) then you’re too far gone for anyone to give you any meaningful advice.
Pete on
March 22nd, 2007 3:27 pm
If I had to deal with one of these Spuks, I’d probably end up ripping the thing out of the toilet seat and smashing it with a hammer.
Ze german on
March 23rd, 2007 12:19 am
“Already, a feminist group at Stockholm University is campaigning to scrap the urinals on the grounds that their construction – allowing male-only use is intrinsically sexist.”
I demand that tampons should not be produced, as they are intrinsically sexist!
Sheesh… All women do is try to put men down…
Teach women they have no right to marry up anymore, that they need to face rejection in the flirting area, that they should go and die in the wars, and that they cannot expect chivalry anymore.
If my girlfriend would buy that device, I would *** without the toilet seat up.
So simple.
John Taylor on
March 23rd, 2007 10:24 am
Anyone here ever clean a women’s public restroom?
If you have you know that most womens restrooms are by far more disgusting. It seems to me that (to many women) if she does not have to clean it then she feels the need to totally deface it.
I have seen things in the women’s restroom that totally defy logic and common decency. (as a janitor of course).
dataguy on
March 23rd, 2007 2:05 pm
Obbop wrote:
“Over and over and over…. on this Web site and others where males have the “nerve” to criticize females for whatever reason, I read posts from females that begin by asserting they agree with the predominant male opinions on whatever topic(s) are covered but……….”
You know, it’s just amazing. They know what we’re saying is true, they just can’t stand to own up to it, and they especially can’t stand to hear it from *us*.
And there’s a very specific reason for that.
If you ask any randomly selected group of, say, 100,000 American women if they think that women are better people than men, the responses will break down something like this:
About 50% will quickly react by saying, “No! Of course not!”, and then, proceed to spend about 90 minutes discoursing on all the various ways in which women are better than men without ever admitting that that’s what it really adds up to.
Another 25% or so will pretend to not understand the question.
Another 24% or so will launch into a stream-of-consciousness monologue about something they read in a magazine or saw on TV, or the lyrics to a Stevie Nicks song, or Feng Shui, or the color of the sky on their planet, and then insist that “it’s all the same thing” (whatever the h*ll that means)…
About .7% will respond by just saying “Yes”, and actually meaning just exactly that.
And about another .3% will respond by just saying “No”, and actually meaning just exactly *that*.
Bottom line is that, as duty bound as they feel to continually lecture us about our faults, they can’t stand to hear about their own faults, and especially not from us. Because they actually do think they’re better people than we are, they just don’t want to admit it.
taype on
March 24th, 2007 2:40 pm
The guys who submit themselves to living in such a feminized fashion are most of the problem here. It’s so ironic that these individuals would likely be the first ones to get irate if WOMEN were being told to urinate in a particular (and unnatural) way, but they, acting as the ridiculously emasculated wimps that they are, just accept this rubbish.
“To micturate from the standing position is now viewed among the more progressive Swedes – as the height of vulgarity and possibly suggestive of violence.”
I’m not aware of the prevalence of this belief, but if this is the case, where would this logic end? Ejacul*tion a potential sign of domestic violence? Scratching your privates indicative of your inherently aggressive attitude?
How can anyone honestly believe that standing up to urinate is degrading to women?
Here’s an idea – create or modify some of those Spuks to say something witty and encouraging when the toilet seat is lifted. Or better yet, just destroy them, I’m sure if enough are destroyed then it would simply become too tiresome and too expensive to continually replace them.
Unkown on
March 25th, 2007 5:30 pm
Another reason is, women today have become very ******, you don’t know when you kiss her if she has just performed ******** on another guy. I refuse to be made a fool of. Women have also become lazier. Most of the time they won’t even cook for their men . Finally, today’s women are complete *******. They have an attitude that I will not put up with no matter how pretty she is. Don’t get me wrong, I”ll stay with my gir,l but there is no way we will ever get married! I will not give her the satisfaction of thinking she has me by the *****. I want to know that I can leave whenever I want.
geegee on
March 29th, 2007 5:13 am
—- editor’s note: Post is un-edited. Posted as-is. ——-
yes women are better than men we have to be we chose who will be the father of the children that will provide and be a positive modlewe also teach the children do you guys ever tell your wife what has to be done no of course not because it is allready done we wait and wait until we are tripping over something or fighting whith something that needs fixings then we nag you to help unstead of you actually noticing the problem and just doing it take some resonsiblity and as far as men cheating i believe it is because they are stroking there own ego because 90% of the time a woman is not happy becuse her man doent treat her very nice we marry you because we love you but every time we thow outt supper because you found something else to do just keepes adding up or in spare time allways with the guys instead of you wife we really are not the enemy and you guys probably are having a harder time getting it up and istead of admiting it is old age a fact of life it must be you wifes fault so any other female who is even a little bit nice and does know every time she goes to the bathroom she will be falling in or tripping over your socks or waiting just being you instead of dating is fair game because it is different and exciting it justivies it for you so you blame your wife and the only time we have *** is when i start it but it was too much pressure so it has been 3 yrs if you guys would admit that it is a two way street and not all about you i think it would work
Curiepoint on
March 29th, 2007 9:58 am
I am willing to bet she talks just like she writes…endless and without taking a breath.
I would address the points she tries to make, but it makes my head hurt just trying to pick them out of that load of verbal diarrhea.
RE: *the guy that invented this website had a ****** marriage…..and kids came along with that……..Move on from your nightmare….set yourself free man……..If a bad door opens….close that door
You made a bad choice and so did she…….Move on and take your kid for some ice cream
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Gee Jessica, what delightful words of wisdom. I never thought about moving on and taking my kids for ice cream? You’ve inspired me to write a letter to the family court.
Dear Judge
I would like to take Jessica’s advice and move on. So if you could please have the court cancel all future alimony payments that would be great. I would also like to have at least joint custody so I may take my little one for ice cream when I like as Jessica states. And since I am having custody half the time, please cancel my child support payments. Why pay the mother if I too have custody half the time?
Thanks for your understanding. Please refer any questions to Jessica your honor.
All the best
Master of his Domain, DYWN
tygr on
March 29th, 2007 6:33 pm
In my experience, either women get it or they don’t. Either they are on your side or they’re not. No amount of evidence, attempts to convince them, logic or even pleas to empathy will sway them to your side. A feminist is a feminist, and if she were mentally sane, she would have objected to the basic premise to begin with. There is no way the 15 minute conversation you have is going to force her to change the very foundation of her life.
Actually I think this goes for any conversation topic with women. Don’t forget that they are morally superior to us mere humans. Regardless of what they believe, they are always correct. So don’t debate them. Small talk is just about the only thing you can discuss with women. Keep it to the weather, musical bands or other mundane topics.
If you play, you will lose. The only winning with AWs is not to play. The greatest thing is that your refusal to shower them with attention frustrates them much more than any slanderous accusations (non-legal) a woman can use against a man.
Ze german on
March 29th, 2007 9:55 pm
“She cried “****** abandonment” and won a hefty settlement. “
It is funny how this accusation will not work for a man.
Just a week ago I told my gf that the *** life is not cutting it and that I got needs which I do not accept being overshadowed by her endless needs.
Instead of any kind of hefty settlement, I got accused of being shallow, stupid, ignorant, selfish, insensitive, disrespectful, obsessive, prevert. (Yea, all these…. )
Sexism??? On the highest levels…
Make up: Treachery, true. But you can use it to your advantage. Don’t go into a relationship before you have seen her the morning after.
Or, if you are not into relationships, leave before dawn, so you always get to see the glamour side.
Javier on
March 30th, 2007 7:30 am
This reminds me of a cartoon I read many years ago. I’ll probably do it injustice having to go by memory, tho. It showed a woman in several different frames engaging in different activities to primp herself up. For example, one frame showed her putting on hair extensions, another showed her putting on fake eyelashes, another was her strapping her bra to hold up her plastic boobs, another fake nails, another makeup, and on and on. Just a long string of frames showing a woman “faking” herself to beauty. Then in the last couple of frames, her female room mate walks in the room, and asks the “fake” woman what she is doing.
The woman replies without remorse, “I’m getting ready to go out and find me a REAL man.”
Tom on
March 31st, 2007 7:33 am
Difficult to say if this new reality is a “sad state” or an opportunity to evolve. Probably both—change is seldom comfortable—but also, certainly a “fissioning” toward individuality and selfishness. Selfishness is not inherently a bad thing, but it makes it more difficult for one to think in terms of aggregates (Which rings more true, “I’m an American” or “I’m on my own, a mercenary”?). Corporations have absolved themselves of loyalty and responsibility toward their employees. Women have abandoned their gender role as caretakers and child-rearers and have become competent, vicious competitors. We’re all mercenaries, now. Further, we’re all men, now: we all drive trucks, wear pants and spit. So no one should be surprised that the social order of the 1950s is gone.
Women: you wanted freedom and empowerment, and you got it in droves! The cost, of course, is the demise of the family and a lot more shoveling of your own poo rather than getting a man to do it all for you. The only Western men willing to become enslaved to (marry) Western women are either desperate, or fools.
Guys: we need to push harder to make sure women are more equally represented. Equality is equality is equality. This means: mandatory draft of girls and women the same age as war-drafted men. Educating and promoting more female plumbers, carpet-layers, factory workers and ditch-diggers—not just doctors, lawyers, scientists and CEOs. Also, remember that 90% of women marry up. If you’re going to marry, make sure she’s loaded, first.
Dads and Moms: start taking your sons to work on Take Your Daughter to Work Day. After all, college degrees and good careers are but one facet of “choice” in the long litany of lifestyle choices available to women today (work, or government dole, or lucrative divorce, or modeling, or subsisting on grant monies while promoting Womyn’s Rights, or obtaining scholarships for the 1000+ tax-financed Womyn’s Studies Programs that exist today). By contrast, college degrees and good careers are mandatory for boys and men.
just me on
March 31st, 2007 1:20 pm
HEY!! that’s a bunch of ****!! while it’s true that, once a woman is in a relationship, she feels she no longer needs to watch her weight, dress up and take care of herself. This happens more often than not. BUT!! then you have women like me.
I have been in a relationship for 6 months and I STILL dress up, wear makeup and keep things “downstairs” trimmed and tidy. But lately, the boyfriend won’t touch me cause apparently he’s “got soooo much on his mind”
It’s not just the women who don’t hold up their end of the ****** bargain when the honeymoon phase comes to a close. My man has all but lost ******* interest, but, he likes porn and strip clubs. WHAT GIVES? Am I to assume that he’d rather wank to porn than be with a REAL, able and willing partner? Or that he’d rather go PAY to have some ***** rub her surgically enhanced “assets” in his face when he’s got a perfectly good pair of FREE breasts that he can do what he pleases with at home?
What the ****!?!?.. can some of you men PLEASE explain this to me?
Howard on
April 1st, 2007 4:29 pm
Just by looking at the face… I think she may have had 30 or 40 pizzas too many in her lifetime already… But fat is a craving, & a teenage daughter (god I hope is prettier than the mom) is an easy tradeoff… I really think what was going on here is that SHE was so fugly that her daughter was “HER ONLY HOPE!” There simply are an amazing number of women out there who “date” only with the expectations of being wined & dined… Their ***-drive is firmly in PARK & you can play this game a long time till your wallet is empty & her tummy looks like she is 8 months pregnant. Her putting out is beyond reason… Guys… No more than 3 dates to ********, & no more than $40 for a date. Better to meet AFTER DINNER TIME for a drink. She is going to be loosened up more by that Jaegermeister than the prime rib anyway!
john on
April 2nd, 2007 8:15 am
insane
Truthslayer on
April 3rd, 2007 12:29 am
I can personally attest to the power of the Shaming Tactics.
On many a board I post on, once you use them against a woman, she then has to dig deeper and deeper to try to disarm you with a tactic you haven’t seen.
Sadly for women, the list covers them all, so when they attack, they are easily disarmed.
They then either concede by running away, claim that you are unreachable and stubborn, or just try a inane topic to lull your attention away from that spear of logic you just stuck them with.
Best thing to remember…majority of women THINK they are unique, but surprisingly have the SAME mentality They each think THEIR insult is rare and a real zinger. Once you show how boring, predictable and weak their emotional attack is, you can just walk away.
Let them have the last word…As Kenshiro says…you’re already defeated (yes I know what he actually says, but the filters won’t post it).
Truthslayer
Lin on
April 3rd, 2007 12:53 am
She sounds like a total psycho.
Lin on
April 3rd, 2007 3:45 am
Bruce, we can’t police other women, like you can’t police your male buddies out there. To us, other women are sometimes the enemy…trying to screw our men etc. Every girlfriend I know says that women want men who have girlfriends and wives, because its a challenge. When I used to go out with the guy i’m dating, we never held hands. Rarely did girls stare or try to smile at him. Now, when we hold hands in public, its like every woman in the universe bats her eyes at him.
Women are ****** up, in so many different ways. We all hate each other for the most part. Sadly, its other women who often ruin our relationships and marriages. But men are bad too. So, you police yours Brucey, and we’ll do what we can.
Oh, and PSS, that woman is crazy. I’m 26 y/o and I dated a 19 y/o marine. Marines are HOT. Men don’t realize most women go nuts for that uniform and the whole protector thing. She was a ******. I would have paid for her breast implants, so she would’ve left him alive and sent that sweet young man my way. Any marines 23-30 reading this….I love you! And I’ve got quite a pair of natural jujubies or whatever, over here!!
Lin on
April 3rd, 2007 4:09 am
Obviously the woman isn’t LAZY she has a mental illness. If you’ve never had a mental illness or loved some one with one, then shut up!!!
How could he live in that house? hmm? Well think about how frazzled her sick little brain is to do that to her own home. Think about how tired her little mind must be from stowing garbage away like a squirrel with acorns prearing for the winter.
She probably has a lot of stress about it and her husband no doubt has fought with her over it. She probably knows he will leave her, but her brain is so backwards and she is literally compelled to bring junk in the house so that being alone doesn’t even contend with stacking junk up in her home.
Honestly, I feel sorry for that woman. I feel sorry for him too, But I think he should commit and “Baker Act” her. I’m sure he wouldn’t have a problem and in the meantime, get the house in order and if she wasn’t able to get better, he could leave. But I think if she were commited with hospital health care, he might be able to help her realize the damage she is doing to her family.
A on
April 3rd, 2007 5:54 pm
I realize that this comment is about a month late, but why should women catch up on dying so that they can equal men in war casualties? Its men who start wars and men who want to kill each other. Maybe men should catch up on being assaulted and *****, so that they can be equal to women in that.
Curiepoint on
April 3rd, 2007 7:44 pm
some stuff is just too sad to comment on. It stands on it’s own like a work of art. I suppose if this weird-wolf is only mucking up her own face and not expecting people to kowtow to her demands for respect, then she only becomes a harmless caricature.
frank on
April 3rd, 2007 9:08 pm
To Just Me: I am happy to hear a woman like yourself still respects her man enough to look good for him. For the last decade, society as a whole has only been about women and their needs. And in more private lives, women have been all about themselves. In your case, Just don’t assume anything but have a talk with him instead.
Oh by the way, there are no such a thing as free breasts or *** offering from women! Men pay for them one way or another, sooner or later!
Debra on
April 4th, 2007 10:40 am
You guys are really funny! I couldn’t help but laugh my *** off at some of the things you have written. Especially the wimp of the month!!! But come on guys you really can’t have your cake and eat it too. It all comes down to dignity and respect for each others feelings and well lets face it, it is simpley not there in most marriages anymore. TV and Porn makes you all seem like the grass is greener on the other side. Lets put it this way; you guys are all cake men! You want your cake and eat it to.
Mike Hunter on
April 5th, 2007 7:50 am
I’m all for equality. She pays for her **** and I pay for mine. BTW the Mens right movement aren’t the only ones pushing this. Many feminist groups (as opposed to feminazis’) are urging women to pay for half or all of the date.
Oh and by the way how can I get into contact with the woman trying to pimp out her teenage daughter? Just kidding!
Howard on
April 5th, 2007 10:08 am
Of course this is pretty classic. You can also see the same high expectations that women have on dating sites; where women expect you to be perfect while they do not even bother to post a picture of themselves. Or a 45 year old woman who expects young studs to flock to her needs just because she MIGHT put out. Or go on Craigs List & see all the women who expect YOU to pay for *** all the while pretending to want you. Are you a “Generous Man?” Translate that as YOU will pay for *** regardless of how bad it might be.
Vee on
April 5th, 2007 10:28 am
Bail and not placed in jail?
When men do the exact same thing, sell young girls for ***, they are usually called pimps, deplorable and the scum of the earth, right? But who would sell their own daughter?
Going Dutch, letting her pay for dinner & a movie? You better believe it. I know way too many suckers paying for everything again and again. Women do not see or think that there is a double standard AND are very quick to attempt to shame a man, who doesn’t pay for social outings. Unfortunately, some men fall for that ****.
I have a friend who uses an interesting tactic. He tells his girl of the moment that he does not have any money, he’s strapped for cash or saving his money for something important. If she doesn’t offer to take him out, the relationship ends . . . especially if his biological needs have not been fulfilled yet.
Cool site.
RE: Howard, “better to meet after dinner time . . . “ Smart move!
S E on
April 6th, 2007 7:37 am
To avoid gender bias charges, the store’s owner opens a Wife Store just across the street.
The first floor has wives that love ***.
The second floor has wives that love *** and have money.
The third through sixth floors have never been visited.
Kevin on
April 6th, 2007 8:40 am
There is alot of truth to never being able to please a woman. Opposites do not attract in a relationship. That’s where most go wrong. There is a fundamental error in looking for an opposite in a relationship. For science, that’s fine, but to want a mate that does not have the same interest, likes, dislikes, etc….well, why not just rush out on a busy freeway head-on into traffic. ‘Nuff said.
Darrell on
April 6th, 2007 12:10 pm
Go to any public event and you will see a long line of women waiting to *** (and of course the attendant whining about how unfair it all is). Trying to get men to have to sit down to *** means, inevitably, long lines of men waiting as well. It is a typically feminist trait to project their perceived misery on to the nearest man/men available; and with this initiative, I should think they are hoping to achieve just that. If we’ve got to be miserable waiting to *** so should the men? It’s just another example of blinkered feminist equality.
Kevin on
April 6th, 2007 1:32 pm
Cinammon Stillwell deserves a medal. Well after all she is a legitimate researcher and doctor. I wonder what happened in Robert Jensens’ young life. That would probably explain his ‘feelings’ on this subject. First off…men are real. Most women are too… but tend to want to live a fantasy life and be all touchy feely. That’s fine for the romantic parts throughout our days, weeks, months etc. But wake up….life is made to take responsibility, suck it up and be a man.
Obbop on
April 6th, 2007 6:18 pm
Considering the legal statutes of the various legal entities within the US of A one can only assume the “store” has an extremely liberal return policy with not only the full purchase price refunded but the returned male having to forward to the dissatisfied purchaser a sizable sum of money every month for years to come.
Kaylee on
April 7th, 2007 12:18 pm
That was a pointless story. I’d love someone to tell me the opposite isn’t true… men would keep going up floors too in search for the ‘perfect woman’: big breasts, tiny waist, housewife, *** every night… give me a break. People who write this **** are small-minded and don’t know the meaning of the word ‘logic’. Use your brains.
New Paltz Resident on
April 7th, 2007 1:13 pm
I would like to nominate Jason West, mayor of New Paltz as “Mangina of the Year”.
It isn’t men running around telling anyone who will listen that they are entitled to a perfect mate; it’s women.
It isn’t men who constantly change the rules as to what qualities are to be found in a desireable mate; it’s women.
It isn’t men who sit in rapt attention listening to the likes of Orca Winfrey telling them how to ensnare a man and then screw him blind; it’s women.
It isn’t men who throw the temper tantrums when they don’t get their own way; it’s women.
It isn’t men who have spent the last forty years trying to define their identities through herd mentality, and then ***** and moan about how tough life is once they have gotten it; it is once again women.
Most men would be happy to just be with a decent woman who would love them for who they are rather than for what they look like or what he can buy for her. You know…an honest woman.
It’s a shame that such women are extinct.
S E on
April 11th, 2007 7:32 am
How stupid and selfish can women be!? Just when I think I’ve heard the worst, some woman comes along and lowers the bar even further.
How about making toilets with built in seats that can’t be raised? Or even easier go around and glue the seats down, but it would take a man to think of that and no self-respecting man would ever suggest such a thing.
Obviously thought of by a woman, or a mangina controlled by a woman.
Mufpounder on
April 12th, 2007 7:36 am
Hey Kaylee, you sound like one of those that call and harrass Tom Leykis.
Mufpounder on
April 12th, 2007 7:49 am
Thanks ! I have lived some of these tactics, and now just let her know that shame tactics no longer work, then tell her to just SHUP UP. Seems to work good for me : ) Now getting laid a lot more without all of the yack.
Mufpounder on
April 12th, 2007 7:52 am
(LMAO) point well made Curiepoint !
Curiepoint on
April 12th, 2007 10:53 am
Well, if the picture accompanying the original post is any indication, I’m d**n glad not to be a male feminist/mangina. That guy looks like he has bigger br**sts than most of the women he is kotowing to.
Economist on
April 13th, 2007 7:24 pm
“Often spawned from feminist mothers and raised alongside ‘empowered’ females, the Mangina will often sell his soul in order to attain one-night stands.”
I have met the grown-up sons of quite a few feminists and single “empowered” mothers, and they are often misogynists and even violent toward women. Their domineering mothers attempted to castrate them and they retaliated.
JURO on
April 13th, 2007 10:40 pm
Screw it, I’ll just **** outside in the bushes.
Women won’t stop until until there are no men left. They absolutely hate men and nature, and prefer the artificial and lots of rules.
We are becoming overcivilized. It will only benefit women and hurt men.
JURO on
April 13th, 2007 11:29 pm
tygr said it best. You’ll just sound like them in the end.
I can’t believe nobody has mentioned the best, and SAFEST response to all the shaming tactics: laughing.
A deep, loud, long, belly-filling laugh is the one response that will disarm the aggressor. They will be mystified and befuddled, but miffed that you obviously don’t take the ***** seriously. It’s also office-safe, so the boss won’t write you up on it.
Remember, the woman HATES YOU as a man and wants you to SUFFER. If you laugh, that sure ain’t suffering. And if SHE laughs too, YOU laugh again!!! Out-laugh the twit!
Also, all women want to express themselves and be heard, and as a bonus, have something to laugh about later with a Girlfriend. They’ll never want to brag about making a man laugh, never never never.
JURO on
April 13th, 2007 11:41 pm
This is what happens when you worship P U S S Y.
Next?
MarriedNextWeek on
April 14th, 2007 10:25 am
You guys are freakin me out…I’m 23 and I take the plunge next week at the courthouse. I’m thinkin twice about this.
rich on
April 14th, 2007 3:50 pm
I grew up in a house like this. I’m in my 30’s now and haven’t lived in the house since college, but my mom still lives there. People might say “why doesn’t he just throw the stuff away?” or “why doesn’t she get help?”. The fact is, people in this condition are very resistant to treatment, and are very protective of their god-awful mess. My mom had to listen to 3 kids and her husband pleading with her and sometimes yelling at her to clean up the trash- for 30 years. And the pile was never reduced, not even an inch. In fact it just got worse over the years. In our teen years it got so bad we could never have friends over- growing up and living in a mess like this had obvious psychological repurcussions on all of us. It’s a form of OCD called ‘compulsive hoarding’, and there is a stubbornness and resistance about it held by the victim that makes them refuse (violently at times) to do anything about it. Whenever my dad threw something away or tried to clean a room, my mom went nuts and threw a tantrum. She saw it as a personal attack, or a loss of some kind of control.
My advice to to Ed? Sounds like he did all he could do to help her (and trust me, there isn’t much he can do). He simply needs to take care of *himself* now, and get the hell out of there- divorce her, separate from her, do whatever he needs to do.
Off Centre View on
April 15th, 2007 6:23 am
Loads of interesting points. I had to take a Gender, Politics and Society course at my final year of my Under-graduate politics course at a UK university, really opened my eyes to a load of ultra-feminist stuff that women and men are being brainwashed. I’d never come across such self-pitying and often hatred-filled gibberish in all of my life, and yet it seems to be a dominating modern philosophy.
I don’t fully agree with men not being at all emotional. Men don’t have to fit into the stereotypical ’stoic’ sort of approach. There are aspects of manliness that are everlasting, such as honour, rationality, inner strength and decency (not that women can never hold any of these aspects, but they come across as often very masculine attitudes). What I do agree with is that men (not merely males) ultimately make decisions based on reason and rationality, while I’ve often noted some women make decisions based on the most random, usually emotional things ( such as: “let’s vote for that politician. I’ve got no ideas about his policies but he says that he loves his wife, so he must be okay.”). I do think that males are born, but being a man is something that must be taught, and as such is often being stifled by the very feminised modern education system and the decline of the traditional man role model.
I’m very confident in being a man, and I’ve never had any problem in giving very close friends a bear-hug when I say hello or goodbye. I’ve never seen it as at all effeminate (though I’ve lived outside of the UK for a couple of years so I’ve probably picked it up as cultural thing).
Interesting website, not sure if I agree with everything on here at the moment – I need to read more to make up my mind, but please keep up what you’re doing.
Kamal S. on
April 16th, 2007 10:07 pm
I sit when I ***.
It is civilized and clean, damn it if I’m going to let **** splash on my pants.
The general thrust, however, is that we should not live our lives simply to please the aesthetics of a particular feme in our lives. This is lacking a backbone. No, we live our lives as men and have our codes and we choose our law and live it, instead of drifting like a chump.
That said, gentlemen, it’s ****. It splashes. That’s barbaric.
Seems Jerry Madsen enjoyed the post enough to mention us in his blog.
Jerry was searching the net on some news about that Crazy Mary Winkler. He came across our site in his search. He writes in regards to dumpyourwifenow.com:
I did a Google search on her name. My first stop was a posting about Mrs. Winker on a blog entitled, “Dump Your Wife NOW!” Quickly, I became less interested about the accused and more curious about this blog. As I began to explore, it soon led to the discovery of a modern day version of the He-Man-Woman-Haters Club in the bloggersphere.
What I found was an extensive internet ring of anti-feminism blogs and websites; some funny, some crude, all serious.
What purpose is being served by these cyber outposts of anti-femanazism. I’ll let their titles and sub-titles do the talking. Here are the notables (My comments):
* Dump Your Wife NOW! – Turning Doormats into Men. Finally a site for the unhappily married man. Forget counseling we are all you need to kick her to the curb! (Apparently, you can also forget punctuation)
Jerry also adds about our site:
…. I’ll even give credit where credit is due: The “Dump Your Wife NOW!” boys actually have an intelligent dialog running. I don’t agree with everything they post, but at least they they aren’t indiscriminately blasting women with hate.
So I had to write Jerry back, and here’s my response:
Ummm.. you used the word “they” twice in a row. (Apparently, you can also forget punctuation)
RE: “Most of them aren’t brave enough to post their name and/or picture.”
I am happy that you are happily married. But why bash your male brothers? When your wife wakes up one day after twenty years of marriage and is bored with you, and runs off to shag the pool boy, who is gonna listen to you at the bar? Her girlfriends? No Jerry. Your brothers in the human race who have been there too. You are a man first. A husband second.
Men in glass houses should not throw rocks. Please re-work your posting with less of a mangina point of view. The picture of the middle finger is offensive Jerry.
We’ll be here for you, should that day come when your wife wants something else.
Jerry replied soon after:
Touche regarding ‘they’.
However, I said “most” – not “all” – of the sites in question don’t post their personal info. Your site was the difference in my description.
And yes, the middle finger is offensive. That was the point; Fred X is more offensive than constructive. But at least I blurred it; which is more than I can say for Fred X, a site I found through yours.
If my wife ever takes the kids and moves on to greener pastures, I’ll be sure to keep you guys in mind. Good luck with the blog; I’ll continue to check it out.
Thanks for stopping by!
Jerry’s blog can be found at: bloggeddrain.typepad.com/thedrain/2007/04/the_mangina_mon.html
I will comment upon one thing in Gee-Gee’s post: The last line of her post.
She says that things could be okay if us dumb, selfish, oafish, sloppy men with erectile-dysfunction-because-we’re-old would just realize that it isn’t all about us. Is this not what we men have been saying for two generations? Yet, the impetus behind the whole circus from courting to relationships to marriage have always been about what she wants. From the slave-mined blood rock on her hand that her friends can ooh and ahh over, the several thousand dollar wedding dress, the guest list that she and her mother control with an iron fist, and the actual ceremony and reception afterwards that can cost upwards of thirty thousand dollars…it has all everlastingly been about her wants, her needs, and her whimsy. The groom is just another accessory. Entitlement of this magnitude does not germinate overnight. It begins in her childhood princess days, and does not ever go away.
Don’t believe me? Look at how virtually every product and service is marketed in this country; it’s all about her. Even issues regarding the ever-popluar screed Erectile Dysfunction are promoted as being about her pleasure, as well as other health issues specific to men.
And for the record, ED is usually symptomatic of something far more serious and life-threatening than just old age.
Like, say…stress and burn-out? Gee, where’s the love you profess then, huh?
Your game is up, Gee-Gee. You most certainly do not marry us because you love us. You do so because it keeps you wrapped up in that delusional cocoon of being a princess that demands homage that fires your willingness to marry.
We here only acknowledge that you and your ilk fool us no more.
Won't Get Fooled Again on
April 19th, 2007 1:37 pm
Yawn…same old same old. This article is just a re-hash of the same useless statistics and finger pointing that is promulgated as truth.
Man cheats because of his needs. Wife divorces. His fault.
Wife cheats because of her needs. Wife divorces. His fault again.
The bottom line is simply this: Live out your life as a slave to the whims of so-called honest women by begging for scraps at her ****** table, or pay a pro and get what you want when you want it, however you want it. It’s your choice and your responsibility to see to your own needs. Just stop with the moral crusade against those of us who don’t care for your particular brand of bullsh*t morality.
Better to be a paying customer than a beggar any damned day.
Reverend Porkchops on
April 20th, 2007 11:49 am
On the ABC nightly news last night, the talking head there stated that breast cancer rates in american women have been falling the last two years in a row. He said the fall is attributed in part to AW’s lower usage of synthetic estrogen replacement therapy, which went out of favor around 2002. He said that studies have indicated that breast cancers feed on the female hormone estrogen.
This got me thinking (and laughing), because the birth control pill is nothing but synthetic estrogen. It’s funny that the talking heads claim that when older women take estrogen (as in ‘estrogen replacement therapy’) it is linked to causing breast cancer, but when young women take estrogen (as in the ‘birth control pill’) it is described as everything good and beneficial and liberating for women.
Breast cancer rates in America began exploding in the mid 1960’s, about 4 or 5 years after the birth control pill was approved by the FDA.
cerise on
April 20th, 2007 12:36 pm
First off, I really like this site. Granted, I don’t agree with all of it (some rants just go off to the opposite extreme), but I do agree with the main points and some of this stuff is hilarious!
Now back to the article, I agree with this guy. Children’s toys start the brainwashing at a young age. I hate those ****** Bratz dolls and, if I’d have kids (hell no), they would not be allowed one. Barbie’s are ok most of the time to me as long as it’s not perpetuating a stereotype. i.e. Bride Barbie. I hate that women think their role in life is to grow up, get married and have kids. I also hate that men do the same thing – grow up, go to college, get a good job, get married, have kids. Those both end up in the same place – misery.
I was 20 when I realized I didn’t have to follow a mold. I knew everyone expected me to go to college, meet a young man, get married and pop out a bunch of brats but you know what? I didn’t want that. I like being independent. I like living by myself. I like paying for my own things. I like ***. I like to have my own hobbies. I like silence and not having to talk to someone when I get home from work. What I hate is people who lived the stereotypes as children, girls playing house with their dolls and boys playing with their matchbox cars, and now they live them as adults without even thinking about what they are doing. It’s not just women, it’s men too. We all have to open our eyes and start thinking about what we are doing and why we are doing it. We shouldn’t do stuff just because “that’s what you do”. We should do it because it’s the best thing for us. If you don’t want to get married, don’t. If you don’t want kids, don’t. If you want to travel the world, do. If you want to become a librarian and your parents want you to become a doctor, become the librarian. Don’t put up with misery in your life if you can help it.
Divorce sucks, I know. My parents were married 4 times EACH. I’m not married and don’t really care if I ever do. If I do though, I certainly am NOT spending thousands of dollars on a stupid wedding. Screw that. I’ll elope and spend the money on something more worthwhile.
And no, I’m not single. I’m with a guy who actually has the *** drive of a woman married 10 yrs (which sucks *** because I could do it everyone day at least once). He wants to get married, but why should I? I don’t care about a stupid rock – diamonds are ugly anyway (so plain and boring, plus no imagination whatsoever), I don’t care about being married – I can take care of myself, and I don’t want kids – I already know what a nightmare that would be.
I am a great cook, I clean, I can change a flat tire, I don’t care if I break a nail, I want my BF to go out with his friends, I make him his favorite desserts, etc etc and he does nice things for me back. In fact, he says I’m the only sane woman he’s ever dated – I’m normal. Its a give and take, if only people would learn that.
Anyway, I think you guys are doing a great service. Maybe all the doormat, angry and sad men in the world can learn something and grow a set and maybe the women who actually think can spread the word to the materialistic harpies that they need to shut up and be nice for once. I can’t tell you how many divorced men I’ve met who up front say they are never getting married again and they’ve had a vasectomy as a come on line. They are ruined now (I love that they got a vasectomy but now their mantra is all women are evil). It’s sad, really. Everyone needs to learn how to be happy and do it. Don’t cave in to societal pressures just because they think that’s what you should do. And, BE NICE to each other already!
Raptor on
April 20th, 2007 3:48 pm
A wrote: “Its men who start wars and men who want to kill each other. “
I’m sure women have *never* caused a war in history because they are so pure and would never make a mistake.
A wrote: “Maybe men should catch up on being assaulted and *****, so that they can be equal to women in that.”
This comment is absurd. Men are assaulted as often as women are but usually don’t speak out about it as societal pressure is on them to “take it like a man.”
This is no surprise. Recent research has strongly suggested that women pick men based upon scent.
When on the pill they pick men who smell like their male relatives.
When off the pill they then go for someone who doesn’t smell like male relatives.
This is the reverse of nature, where a woman not on the pill will pick a man whose scent is dissimilar.
She gets married, has a kid or two, goes off the Pill and then her hubby wonders why she is shagging the guy down the street.
Curiepoint on
April 22nd, 2007 5:24 am
To the point about how men start wars. I got news for you…women do too.
Victoria of England got embroiled in the whole Boxer Rebellion thing in China, and condemned a generation of British men to death for what amounted to her desires to subjugate the Chinese.
Catherine The Great slept her way to the Empress’ throne and used her bed buddies in the Army to murder her husband, the heir apparent to the throne. Then, waged war on her home country in the name of Russia. She was the poster child of feminine manipulation as a means of getting what she wanted.
Indira Ghandi and the suppression of the Sikhs
Joan of Arc led a massive army of uneducated people against the crown of France because the voices in her head told her to.
All of these extreme examples of feminine pique.
I love these arguements implying that men war because it’s a part of our gender. By my observation, no man regards the act of war as being a positive, life-affirming thing. Ignored is the fact that regardless of how we feel about it, we join the battle because we are trying to protect our countries and our ways of life…that includes protecting our mothers, our wives, and our children. It isn’t a game, despite what your Womyn’s Studies courses have told you. It isn’t a fun excursion, nor does it re-define the masculine. It’s an unpleasant and messy task that must be dealt with.
LiberalMRA on
April 22nd, 2007 6:08 am
Lee Raconteur,
Man, that is the sort of opinion that give the MRA’s a bad name.
Women are like that because because they make the choice to be *******. They ***** around, and generally cause havoc in peoples lives because it is all a little game to them. They love the sort of attention they get when they hurt a man.
Sure biology plays a role, but it seems women have had more than their fair share of choice in the matter to become the worthless ****** that they are now days.
Curiepoint on
April 22nd, 2007 7:11 am
she needs to be pitied because she has a mental illness.
He needs to forcibly commit her to an institution.
He needs to take up the slack and clean up HER mess while she’s on vacation where she’s being pampered and told she’s unaccountable for anything.
Laughable.
and no, I will not shut up regardless of my experience with or exposure to mental illness.
You cannot force people to accept help and care against their will. Doing so would only end with his further vilification by her friends and family, and quite probably be viewed as a form of abuse.
He did the right thing by leaving her indolent, screwed up ***. Burning the place to the ground would be adequate justice done.
Pablo on
April 23rd, 2007 7:58 am
I’m so sick of being manipulated by my wife especially after admitting to manipulating me for 5 years before marriage. Then in my 1st year of marriage she breaks down admits she can’t be this fake person always agreeing with me. I know there have been, and are many intelligent and contributing females to society… but overwhelmingly they just suck you in for their own narcissistic pleasure. Obscenely worse than any guy could.
Let’s change the whole marriage thing.
I freaking love this forum! Sorry for sounding so emotional. I’m approaching my 2nd year and have already decided to divorce. I just need to get on m feet and i’m out.
Pablo on
April 23rd, 2007 8:20 am
Mine has got all five definately! I just need to make some trades and i’m out. I say 6 months tops.
It’s amazing the similarities.
frank on
April 24th, 2007 11:07 am
I always believe moderation is the key. I don’t know if feminism had destroyed america but I believe that feminism had made certain groups of women better off, but most women worst off and as a society, also worst off. Let me explain… What we have in today’s world is the full swing of the feminism pendulum to the extreme end where their mission is to descredit men. We can all compare statistics and scientific facts, what not – but even these are being challenged. As a man, I can tell you how men feel in general so maybe women can listen for once without making remarks. Afterall, aren’t women the ones who always listen while claiming that men do not? This is my first point in fact….I am saying let’s look at some non scientific, non statistical pool for once; look at the general feeling of society towards men. Why? Because if men are respected in this society, there will be alot more respect in return!
As we stand today, men are shown in TV commericals as doofus dads, boyfriends… men are often shown to be dumb and losers, while women are shown to be smart and resourceful…all in the same commerical! And what’s with women kicking guys as way to solve problems in movies? Why do I present this? Because it is out there for everyone to see, right now! This has very important implications and that is… in this society, men are silly and doofus-like and not to be taken seriously and therefore, no need to listen to them.
Don’t even let me start with the 200+ women only colleges! So if you ask me, I would say, we are better off without feminism, because feminism has caused more damages than it has helped women!!!
frank on
April 24th, 2007 11:44 am
I mostly blame the feminist movement. I am sad to say, their plan is working! They want to destroy the bond between men and women through the use of laws, victimization, etc. These feminists want us men to be what they want women to think, that is, rapists, *** addicts, bums, criminals, non commiting ********, etc.
Most of these feminists are single with cats, or lesbians, or divorcees. Go figure! So if we stay away from marriage, we may be helping their cause. But who cares, we men don’t have to play their game. I say, lets go marry foreign women.
I shouldn’t have to tell you something you already knew! There’s more where they came from!
Khankrumthebulgar on
April 24th, 2007 12:02 pm
Tim Alexander is tapping into the same disatisfaction that the “Rantings of The Single Male” by Thomas Ellis tapped into. Namely that women have lost their inhibitions and morals. We are in an anything goes culture now. Its not Mr. Right, its Mr. Right Now. Stable, reliable, decent men are out, and bad boys, meth chemists, bikers and thugs are in.
Thats why I have zero sympathy for women who exercise no rational criteria for selecting men. And they complain when a bad boy bends ‘em over and gives them the business with no romance or consideration, using them like wh*res and chucking them. When you lay down with pigs you too will smell!
Then they whine to Mr. Save-A-Hoe to take care of them.
frank on
April 24th, 2007 12:13 pm
I am studying this like a bible! Whenever I feel upset about the unjust done to men, I come here and I feel so much better. Whenever I see a commerical, or heard about a movie that put men down, I come here and I feel better. Thanks to the creator and you guys.
v on
April 28th, 2007 7:30 am
For most of elderly men affected by enlarged prostates, it is physically IMPOSSIBLE to **** in a sitting position.
alalee on
April 28th, 2007 12:13 pm
Well, that’s the most stupidist thing I’ve ever heard. And I’m not even a man! Who cares if a man stands or sits? It should be a personal preference. Gimme a break!!! It’s only urine. It CAN be cleaned if it splashes outside the intended target.
I for one don’t want to get rid of all the men. I happen to like them – A LOT – just the way they are.
RE: Juro:Women won’t stop until until there are no men left. They absolutely hate men and nature, and prefer the artificial and lots of rules.
Juro, nothing “artificial” in this house. It ain’t all of us. It was a few wenches who ruined it for the rest of us. No one asked ME what I thought about the situation, or I would have told them that THE WOMAN’S PLACE IS IN THE KITCHEN, BAREFOOT AND PREGNANT, PREPARING A MEAL FOR YOUR MAN AFTER A HARD DAY’S WORK.
Vee on
May 8th, 2007 10:56 am
I can’t wait to watch Diary of A Tired Black Man.
And, good point Rev Porkchops!
While that was another long read, it was very interesting. There’s one thing that is obvious, the relationship game is ****** up. Whether it is the pill, the government playing the role of the surrogate father, or biased law and policies, it’s looking pretty bad. And the media does not help at all. So yeah, it doesn’t take a research to see that the pill significantly changed society but I guess the details help.
Off topic:: I just recently saw the beginning of Scream 2 again and the opening was sad. The girlfriend asked her boyfriend for money to purchase popcorn. He replied, “Don’t you have your own money?” To which she quickly pointed out, “Yes, I have my own money. I need yours for popcorn.”
He sighed and coughed up the money.
mario on
May 9th, 2007 2:14 am
Kevin,
I’m afraid that you’ve got it wrong. Opposites DO attract, they just make lousy partners!
Steve on
May 14th, 2007 9:01 pm
Damn fine advice. I just e-mailed a hyperlink to this page to every guy whose e-mail address I’ve got! This comes too late for one buddy of mine who got ***** in his divorce. Poor sob fell for every trick she pulled.
Johan on
May 15th, 2007 2:19 am
I’d just like to note that as an Swede I have never seen nor heard about this invention. I sure wouldn’t have it installed either.
bitch on
May 17th, 2007 4:09 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever read more filth in my life – I received this link from someone close to me who just got news from her husband he wants a divorce. This link was sent to the so-called poor ******* who made the decision – all I can say is that you all have one-track minds. Out of every post, reply and article I’ve read, the issue is either *** or money. I didn’t realize that so much of the male population was so shallow that they would allow these two things to rule their lives. When women don’t want ***, it’s because they are tired from working all day, raising your children and cooking your dinner. And to be honest, you probably aren’t the ‘hunk of man’ you once were either, so who are you to make judgements on women who have possible beared your children, or have just plain put up with your **** their whole lives? I say you are right on the money – dump her – do her the best damn favour you can ever do for her. And by the way, I’m a happily married woman (and I know I’m not the only one) who loves to be intimate and ’stroke’ my man’s ego on a regular basis – *** is not a problem – but in return, he gives me what I need. To have a happy marriage, you need to have some kind of emotional commitment or you’re right – you might as well go call a hooker.
Beth on
May 18th, 2007 5:09 am
Ok, I’m a female with a husband that has filled my house with junk to the point that I can hardly walk through so I know first had what Ed is going through. However, in Ed’s case, since her wife has refused treatment, I advise him to let her go. It isn’t easy living with a person who has a mental illness even if one loves them. His wife’s life is hell but his doesn’t have to be. Dump her then have a great life.
TSM on
May 18th, 2007 10:55 am
Providers and nice guys finish last, and end up with fugly women.
Donuthole on
May 23rd, 2007 1:52 pm
Hi, it’s my first post here on this website. I forgot how I was directed here; honestly, I wasn’t even trying to see if “www.dumpyourwifenow.com” actually exists, but imagine my surprise and amusement when I realized it does. I forget anything can be online as long as rules are followed, fees paid, etc. right? I’ve found this site so funny at times that I even started coming here for entertainment, because all my life I’ve had issues about women. I’ve always felt like a victim when it comes to the opposite *** because of how I, a GUY, was treated. Throughout school, I’d ask a girl a question and I’d almost always be met with a very rude answer. Some info I’d read here seem to explain such times that her reaction would make me want to put my hand to her face.
Anyway, geegee’s post is the reason for this entry: given her apparent lack of punctuation, it could be she is deaf. Some deaf people, especially those since birth, don’t have good English skills, hence the poor writing that, as Curiepoint pointed out, is verbal diarrhea (me too, Mufpounder. LOL!). It reminds me of a letter a deaf friend in school who wrote me a long time ago (she’d just moved away). She wrote so much and so long that I didn’t even try to understand it in the first place. I was like, whoa, and simply put the letter away to try again later. Admittedly, though, at the time I was angry with her for something she did in school. No need to go into details about this one as I’d forgiven her for pulling such a stunt.
Geegee, no offense meant for agreeing with Curiepoint’s blunt description of your entry. You do seem to be female, not male, and you need to understand that we guys are getting sick and tired of putting up with the feminist **** that’s been thrown at us that it seems we’re getting to where the women kick-started Feminism decades ago. Lashing out for stuff they felt they didn’t deserve, that is. Well, us guys too so it seems to be our turn.
Well, that’s all for now. I’ll be back to read more. And laugh too, of course. Hehehe By the way, I’d like to commend the editor’s comment that he decided to allow geegee’s entry as-is.
Karl Weiss on
May 29th, 2007 4:16 pm
The answer is that women want to be courted, all of their lives.
Being generally passive, they won’t initiate these activities. They’ll complain of being unhappy, often citing trivial matters and faults, but the truth is they want the husband to keep on pursuing them, providing excitement and romance.
It is one sided, but if you want to keep your wife and keep her happy, treat her as though you have to keep winning her heart.
Ann on
May 30th, 2007 2:13 pm
Hello,
Why do you think all women are spoiled and horrible? You don’t think that western values affect men at all? You don’t think that they too want it all? God, this article is a bunch of sexist ********. I am a strong intelligent independent woman, and I think men simply rely heavily emotionally speaking on women, and it is extememly lonely being the only one to give emotionally and not recieve. The only thing it seems we can rely on men for is money, but we can do that ourselves, thank you. Now that our society supports strong women and have the same, well almost (we still are only paid 75% of what men are), opportunities, we don’t need men as much for financial support. That’s why women are divorcing men more and more. It’s because we can support ourselves financially. So marriage is then valued on an emotional basis, and typically women are more in tune with their emotions, and men typically just don’t offer as much of that.
RE: Ann:“The only thing it seems we can rely on men for is money”
Give us a break Ann.!
According to the U.S. Department of Labor, more that 95 percent of the people in the 10 most dangerous jobs are men: from timber cutters to construction laborers. Coal miner, which is 99 percent men, isn’t even in the top 10. We are in an era, in which men are widely portrayed as boors, crooks, or at best, beer-guzzling football watchers.
The vast majority of people who work in iron foundries, coalmines, and other clanging, polluted environments are men. According to the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics, 92 percent of workplace deaths occur to men.
Yes, men, who are willing to go into our basement to eradicate a rat population, dig into our sewers to ensure our toilets don’t back up, fish the Icy Alaskan waters to catch the salmon the doctors urge us to eat, build the homes we live in, the buildings we work in, and the highways and vehicles that take us there. In today’s era in which so many features extol the contributions of women, I believe it’s fair to say that men are unsung heroes.
Yes men are dying every day. As we die from our hard efforts to bring money home to the family unit, women are spending that money as soon as we men earn it.
As regards to women being in touch with their emotions…..Oh boy….
A woman will always listen to her feelings, before and after she will listen to anything else (and also usually while she is listening to anything else). This means that, in order to get along well with a woman, a man must also constantly be listening to her feelings, and anticipating his behavior accordingly. In effect, women become emotional tyrants in relationships: everything in her life, and, by extension, in the life of anyone involved with her, ultimately ends up being ruled by whatever she happens to be feeling, whatever she thinks is right, and whatever she happens to want, from one moment to the next.
K. on
May 31st, 2007 9:35 am
TSM, unfortunately not all of them are fugly I like to think I’m pretty good looking.
I agree with the article though; ****** “me me me” comes first over anything else, like future plans/children. Women are notorious for “living in the moment” while most men actually plan their futures.
hmmm…
Jim on
June 1st, 2007 6:44 am
Help! My wife has put our 1st year wedding Anniversary plans on hold to spend time with co-workers instead. She always finds her co-workers are more important than me – even when she goes away on buisness trips, she wont bother to take my calls or return them?
I am constantly taking a back seat to her Professional co-workers. Thats all she ever talks about. I even found a picture with her and a male co-worker cheek to cheek at some buisness trip that her female boss had in her personal pictures. When I saw this picture and asked who this close friend was, her response was quite irritated “I am just a friendly outgoing person and that is how I express myself, what is the big deal”
Should I feel that these co-workers are better than me!
She just doesnt get it when I question her on these issues.
I Give Up!
alex on
June 1st, 2007 9:38 pm
Ann
If the cause for so much divorce is that women are able to support themselves financially, then why do they so often seek to take half?
Sick Boi on
June 6th, 2007 7:47 am
LoL, He would still love that *****!!! What a Mangina!!!
Sick Boi on
June 6th, 2007 9:38 am
Also, she writes with all the skill of a third grader. Learn to use punctuation before you tell me how to be controlled in my relationships.
P.S. – GG stands for Good Game. Because your farkin’ game is over!!! Good Game!!!
Sick Boi on
June 7th, 2007 7:51 am
WoW! Thank you so much for this resource! In just the 3 days that I have had to use this as a resource, it has helped me twice and I am sure it will many more times in the future!!! I was charged with being bitter on my blog by my wife’s feminist friends who hide behind the flag of equality. She was telling me, I was bitter because I was upset at high pressure sales to raise money for breast cancer research when all I wanted to buy was a cup of coffee. The sales people wouldn’t drop the issue so I posted on it in my blog. And the attacks started flying. So I went to my new favorite site for defensive weaponry (dumpyourwifenow.com) and quoted code red while stating that my “feelings” are legitimate as any persons feelings are. I still have not gotten a reply back from her. I’m shocked really! LoL!
saddened heart on
June 7th, 2007 12:57 pm
It’s the women who are lazy, who don’t cook for their husbands, and who are manipulative and conniving that makes us women like me look bad. They do make it worse for the rest of us honest, trustworthy, beautiful women who do believe in the blessed union of marriage for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, till death do us part.
I’ve lived with my boyfriend for four years now and he is not willing to marry me because he shares the same views with the rest of you on here, unfortunately. We’ve tried breaking up twice before, but never actually went through with it and I really don’t know why. He has never actually had a more honest and true relationship with another woman from his past until I came along. I think he just wants to have his cake and eat it too, but it is not fair to me because I don’t feel blessed in our relationship.
Cohabitation is not a good idea because it does make the man feel that he doesn’t have to try harder or at all if he can get what he wants because I’m so conveniently available for him. It pains my heart knowing that I am just a commodity with all the perks for him and that he truly doesn’t really value our relationship enough to commit to marriage.
I’m a great catch, except the fact remains that our society has created too many extra roles for men and women which compromises the value or importance of marriage. Marriage is too inconvenient nowdays for most men sadly to say.
Anon on
June 8th, 2007 6:45 am
I’d be interested in knowing the effect that a Pill for animals would have on the ecosystem of an animal population and how males and females behave.
It’s obvious that a kind of chaos develops with female ****** selection while they are on the Pill, as the whole dynamic of ****** selection for procreation is discarded.
I’d be interested in how a controlled, confined dog population would behave if the females were on chemicals that prevented ovulation.
Would the male dogs “stopped trying” and become apathetic towards the female dogs when they see their biological destiny is being bypassed? Would it have any unexpected consequences?
mike on
June 11th, 2007 5:01 pm
To MarriedNextWeek,
Please follow your hunch and do the poor girl a favor by not marrying her. Men aren’t meant to be married, especially in today’s male/father bashing society.
Men don’t do it! After my divorce I finally started getting back on my feet (even though my ex cleaned me out of everything I worked for all my life). I finally had a nice apartment, decent furniture, and some of my income. Heck, I was even investing and saving for my son’s college education. Being stupid, I thought I’d be happier the 2nd time around. It ain’t true… I find myself missing the freedom of sleeping alone, or with someone whenever I wanted and wherever I wanted. Missing the ability to go on a business trip and have fun without having to check in with the warden. Worse, yet I find myself broke again, while both my ex (and new wife) are sitting pretty.
Don’t be stupid marriage is against the natural order of things.
Scott on
June 16th, 2007 8:41 am
Hello, after 18+ years of marriage, and some hard knocks at work, my wife’s attitude has changed and she has turned from “loving” to “hateful.” Furthermore, she confesses and emails the whole world (friends) on how unhappy she is about me and starts creating a resentment amongst them too!
This is awful how can I make her pay for this?
shane on
June 16th, 2007 11:11 am
right on bros they wanted it, lets let em have it.
Jane on
June 21st, 2007 1:53 pm
Love and marriage were never the same. Marriage, like work is about finance, and self actualization, but primarily it’s about money. It was really intended for working class religious families to organize their resources and establish some kind of social order.
We have outgrown marriage as it was intended and women are better off working, whatever profession they choose whether it is motherhood or CEO, and yes being a mom/dad, or both is a serious occupation.
What I wish for all of you is a meaningful connection to someone who trusts you and inspires you to be better, safer, healthier and more alive than you’ll ever be alone or with someone else.
Dave on
June 21st, 2007 6:31 pm
I feel for him. I, myself am going though the same thing! Some say your hands arn’t broken?
Well I have tried cleaning it myself but if she refuses to throw away anything. No matter who you are, you’re fighting a loosing battle!
I want to get out myself. This sure comes as a close second to living with a drunk!
Mine stays home. She’s a stay at home mom, so there’s no excuse!
Still I must work 12 hours a day then come home and clean too? And I just can’t keep up with it. This is taking a toll on my health as well as on my children. I am having them sleep in their bed and watch roaches crawl on their bed! But there’s nothing I can bring into the courts with this, to get myself and my children out of this trash dump! Being a man, I am in a major disadvantage.
HELP!!!
Bradley on
June 22nd, 2007 7:36 pm
My response to geegee’s comments:
1) A man telling an American woman what to do… I thought that was domestic violence according to NOW and fem-nags.
2) Nagging is not the way to get someone to do something. Just as you don’t like being told what to do, we don’t like being told what to do (50 times).
3) We see what needs to be done, and we will take care of it when it fits our schedule.
4) So, men cheat because women are unhappy? Wow, I don’t know what logic you are using, but that is adding 2 + 2 and getting 17.4356732. So does that mean that when women cheat (and according to most current statistics women cheat more than men), that men are unhappy?
5) The most of the rest I can’t decipher, but you are correct it is a two way street. Too bad your post, and your attitude shows that you really don’t believe that though.
@Donuthole – I have dated three deaf women in the past and none of them wrote like that. All of them had been deaf from birth, so I don’t think that is the case.
Rich on
June 26th, 2007 10:21 am
The Pill, feminism, and entitlement aside, I love reading this blog as it always coinfirms what I’ve learned over the last two years – there is only ONE THING that will keep a woman in line. She must know, way down in her soul of souls, that her man has the style, and the skills necessary to replace her in a heartbeat. If she sees, everyday, that you can flirt with, and attract other women, just as you go through your life, then – and only then – will she continue to try and keep her man attracted. Once she feels like she has you, that you would die without her, and that you could never get someone as great as her again… all the trouble starts.
I know, I was that guy for 50 years. At age 50 I decided to finally get over my fear of approaching and meeting women and my life has never been better! I’m not some great-looking, aggressive, pushy guy, I’ve just learned to be more fun and social. Maybe a newer kind of Alpha male.
Once she knows and understands that you could go out and get a date with someone new tonight, she loses all control over you. You choose to be with her because she makes you happy and she’s fun. She knows that if she shows her b**** side too often that you can just find someone else.
She has to feel that you have options. And it’s not something you can tell her, she has to see and and feeling it in the way you interact with other people.
ncm on
July 2nd, 2007 10:55 am
Why is a women demonized if she realizes that she and her husband may not have been a good match? I’m starting to realize this now, but I am a”femihag” or a “witch” for being pragmatic. Both our careers are hectic and demanding, yet some how I am expected to put my years of investment into a career (and student loans, which I am responsible for) in jeopardy because I am the mother and wife. I plan to divorce my husband as amicably as possible. Yes I want the house, but thats’ because this was my house first, its cheap and currently I make less income. However, I don’t want his pension or life insurance. The only spousal support I ask for is repayment of credit taken out in my name to start his business (if his business becomes successful). I want us to have joint custody because my husband is a great father. He is a wonderful man, but we just can’t make the relationship equitable. He’s not abusive, he’s intelligent, loves his kids, works hard. However, I know what is like to watch a wife and mother stayed married for children, building up mountains of resentment – it hurts the children the most.
I don’t spend anymore money than my husband – in a few years I will more than likely make more than he does. I don’t want his money – I just wanted happiness. Why must I subvert this basic human emotion to make sure that he is happy?
I’ve been thinking that the first wife gets “used” up – we support the man and his dreams, live through the hard financial and emotional times and bear children through these times. Keep the house clean and food on the table. We even work, usually out of economic necessity. But, this level of endurance is bound to dissipate, and soon we have very little left.
Signed – a tired young mother and wife just looking to be happy.
DigitalPsyche on
July 3rd, 2007 7:23 am
I treated my girlfriend to surprise gifts all the time, when I had the money.
I did, however, not big a big fuss of Valentine’s Day this year. I actually made her a card, and did not buy a gift because I was too busy working.
For Valentine’s Day, I received, from her, a 30G Ipod, a card, flowers, and no complaints. It was one of the most surprising and sweet presents I have eve received from a parter, because of the thought, and because it was completely unexpected.
We’ve treated each other often, I would bring home flowers, alcohol, sweets, and she would do the same (I happen to like flowers). We both enjoy beer and wine. We both enjoy eating out. When we went on a quick getway to St. Augustine, FL, she paid for the rooms (we ended up staying an extra night)!
She was unemployed for a while, during which time I took care of luxuries for her (our relationship had not moved towards cohabiting at that point). Now we do live together, I am unfortunately unemployed, and she is working.
I find this site very interesting, with some valid viewpoints. I do feel, however, that reacting to what the “feminazi’s” are putting out in the same spirit as their attacks is not quite what is needed.
Both my partner and I have previously been unhappily married. We attribute the positive state of our relationship together to learning more about ourselves and others from those experiences.
Is it perfect? Far from it. It does take work, on both sides, which is ultimately what we need. Individuals need to take personal responsibility for happiness, regardless of *** or gender, and if you can pursue those agendas with someone who’s lifestyle and personality compliments yours, and enriches it, then it’s a rare and beautiful thing.
Men and women needs to stop pointing fingers at each other, to stop expecting and demanding “happiness” from each other. Truly treat others as you wish to be treated, but expect nothing.
The Culture of Scapegoating needs to come to an end, in all aspects of life and society. I really wish it could happen, but thats the optimist within me.
Pissed on
July 6th, 2007 3:23 am
This article should be labeled “Selfish Men” and most of these “Smart Men” will end up old single lonely men if they follow some of the things that this article states. The whole thing about a man living with a women that he finds second best well that is just plain Wrong, what a Jerk! It is never, and I repeat never okay to have a women living with you when you know she is second best! Even if this is verbally understood, woman view living together as the next step to marriage. I am ashamed at the way people raise their sons now. They have absolutley no respect for women at all! They are more concerned with money and material items, well guess what those things are not forever! This article seems to encourage men to use women and not to be open and honest. Who ever wrote this article needs to seek some type of counceling, because they have clearly had some past experiences with women that have led them to want to spread their bitterness to other men! Please stop! It is hard enough to find loving caring men these days with out you trying to taint their views.
christy on
July 7th, 2007 12:44 am
What the hell are you idiots talking about? I love *** with my husband and yes I am good at it! But he is the one who is never in the mood. You can believe me or not, who cares! I am 5 ft 8, naturally blonde hair, blue eyes, size 2, was prom queen of my school. He says he loves me but never wants to (you know). How the hell is this happening? I am a very nice person. I’ve given him 2 beautiful children and have never got stretch marks anywhere or lost my intense need for ***. I have even offered to have a three-some with, if that would help… but no thankyou. Any advice?
curvylicious on
July 7th, 2007 5:48 am
Scott,
Dump her ***.
Nathan on
July 7th, 2007 11:33 am
This is so ***. First of all sitting for me usually ends up with me spraying all over the floor so this hygiene thing is total ********. Then shaming a man into sitting by lying about getting fined and legal trouble is fraud and illegal coercian. If it ever ends up in an American restroom ill toss the buggers in the damn trash.
Khankrumthebulgar on
July 9th, 2007 2:26 pm
Men must practice mitigation strategies and stop putting themselves into a situation where they are at the mercy and whims of women. Clearly the message is getting out. As 12% of US men married foreign women last year. And nearly 24% of the other men refuse to ever marry. Seems the Marriage Strike to feminized American women is taking hold with a vengence. When it gets to 50% just wait and hear the howling and screaming, and hissy fits. I cannot wait. Will have cigars and cognac on hand to celebrate.
Feminists are indeed freeing men from the bull **** of American ***** women. If you want to know just how sick and insane. Read Pandagon or Feministing or the Reclusive Left. Where the femifascists still insist the Duke LaCrosse Players are guilty of ****.
Virtuous on
July 10th, 2007 9:05 am
Instead of legalizing ************, how about legalizing polygyny? Then at least a woman can’t complain about her man cheating and will have a say in who he is with? For the man, he doesn’t have to worry about not getting “any” because if his first wife doesn’t feel like it, he has another wife to turn to.
Lawrence on
July 11th, 2007 10:28 am
Yes, good stuff. One more important peace of advice – document, document & document! As soon as you feel something is definitely starting up, open up an event diary. Keep it safe. Any thing she says or does that is in anyway consequential, get it down. It’s all evidence in a court of law. Be aware that she may have been advised to do likewise, so your behaviour must be impeccable. Be cool & polite. Do not respond to provocation. Be calm & collected at all times.
Uncle Steve on
July 11th, 2007 1:54 pm
Some wise words from Gene Simmons.
Curiepoint on
July 13th, 2007 8:12 pm
Gents,
In speaking of marriage, the refusal of American Men to jump under the bandwagon, and the apparent rising unease amongst women, I have to ask if anybody knows of this:
debbiemaken(dot)blogspot(dot)c o m
Ms. Maken is using the Bible to argue that men who refuse to marry, especially marry young, they are violating a direct edict from God. She has written a book aimed at Christian women, but it’s fundamental substance is an exhortation for women to begin “leading” men back to church, and via this mechanism (somehow) lead them to the altar. She deploys the usual shaming tactics against detractors, largely male, while her acolytes praise her like she’s the head of cult.
From what I understand, she is an attorney (surprised? Me neither) who waited until she was 28 years old. Yet by her reckoning, men need to grow up and assume the yoke.
Gentlemen, the impact is not as small as our enemies would have us believe. When whole cults are formed around getting men to walk into slavery. How long do you suppose before her ilk start gaining the ear of government? The Constitution is already in tatters, so how far before endentured servitude becomes the order of the day?
CW on
July 16th, 2007 9:53 am
I’ve done both. caring for children and a home is not harder than working a full time career. Its all about keeping things organized and planning ahead. when I was home with my daughter the place was clean , healthy meals were on the table, my daughter got to every event on time, got good qualilty time with Daddy, and played at the park for a couple of hours every day. If you can project manage, you can be a SAHM(D)- its the same skillset.
Currently I am in graduate school and hold down an executive role with a global 50 company. I still find time to do fun things with my kids, take my wife out on dates, and do my share of housework/parenting. My wife does not work outside the home.
I basically learned the SAHM thing was a racket when I took over the at home parent duties (I was on paid leave for 6 months while we took care of some family issues). Basically, there was more than enough time during the day to take care of everything. She was spending an hour online, an hour talking to friends on the phone (mostly complaining about husbands), an hour shopping randomly and an hour in transit from place to place. Play dates were more Mommy time (the moms chat and drink coffee). In essence, half of the 9 hours I spent at the office she spent on herself. If you are doing the same, take a good hard look at how you spend your time. If it’s a full time job, then treat it as one. If I spent 4-5 hours a day jacking around at the office I would be fired.
Basically the root issue was that SHE did not value the things she did, so she resented doing them. She filled the day with self centered **** to fill the void she was feeling. Marriage counseling was a godsend for us. She figured out that her role was just as valuable as mine. She now focuses as much effort into being a mom / running the household, as she did when she was working outside the home.
Juliana on
July 19th, 2007 6:09 pm
My Marines!! My brothers, my good men!!
I am so sorry…..I am so sorry that this greedy THING, this filthy abomination, this stinking predator was a female, as I am, and an American, as I am.
I am deeply ashamed of this murdering creature!!
I….I hope “it” gets silicone poisoning!
Michel Morin on
July 22nd, 2007 1:18 pm
Wow If I ever saw one of these devices… I would crush it with my boot.
Tony Cage on
August 1st, 2007 7:00 pm
You are a true expert, sir…
I’m in my mid 20’s and have always swore that I’d never get married and rather look for a gene simmons type situation…. ok, maybe gene is a bad example but you get the point.
Why even get yourself in the situation?
Littleone on
August 2nd, 2007 1:04 am
Read through this and passed the first floor, but settled with the second. A man who loves, especially his children as well as having the other attributes mentioned is I could ever want. Although, loving his children is more important than how much money he’s making or his religion or lack thereof.
BD on
August 2nd, 2007 5:16 am
After hinting at a seperation to my wife of 9 years, she wrote me a note talking about her “dedication to upholding our marriage vows,” and asked me “will you do the same?” Well, there were several major things I spoke to her about BEFORE we got married, and she promised me they would not be issues. Of course, they have become the MAIN problems, and for me, this means that she has NOT kept her vows to me.
One of these is the cleanliness of the my house. I mean, how freaking hard is it to simply pick up after yourself? Must you be reminded ALL the time?? Don’t get me wrong, it’s not just “darnit baby, you left a coke can out again!” That’s not what I mean – I mean the entire house is covered – if I step out of my bed at night to use the bathroom, I fall over clothes, baskets, glasses, garbage, used dishes, etc, etc. This is insane! What kind of person does this ****?
I’m sick and tired of being told that she’s “upholding our marriage vows.” Things are so messy here now that I don’t bother putting up every single thing I get out anymore, mainly because it doesn’t matter where I put it – it still looks the same!
I have done more than my fair share of “upholding my vows,” and I’m tired. I’ve been lied to. I may not have a prenup, but it doesn’t matter – I’m still broke as I ever was, if not more so – I’ve put her butt through college, working long hours at her insistance, not getting any emotional attention, everyone else coming before me; she gave me her spoken word, and that’s a binding contract in my opinion. I don’t easily give my word to ANYONE unless I really know that I am going to back it up.
I grew up with my parents ******** me over and over again with lies and broken promises, messed up houses, yelling/screaming/fighting and a variety of other problems – the result was that I CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE. I told her this BEFORE we got married and she said “All I want is to make you happy since you were treated so badly.” Now the only time I get “pampered” with affection is when I insinuate that I’m thinking about separation. This is absolutely unacceptable to me – I’m tired of being told I’m loved when there are no actions to back up that claim.
K on
August 2nd, 2007 5:12 pm
Great article – great website – keep it up
James on
August 5th, 2007 1:46 pm
The womens’ posts here are excellent examples for men to see the truthfullness in this article. NCM’s post is a clear reminder of how it’s all about the money and Ann’s post is a textbook example of how women see a lot of men: As emotionless shells whose sole purpose is for women to suck them dry of their money.
James on
August 5th, 2007 11:26 pm
pmydkm01’s posts have no evidence supporting anything. She sounds like a 15 year old women who found a dictionary. I particularly loved the way she berates others in her comments. She speaks of her hate for generalizations and then says it’s the fault of every man for being lazy and not taking up “their share of the burden.”
The burden being their wives, of course.
James on
August 5th, 2007 11:49 pm
Women really do stick together, as you can see by these posts. obbop is 100% correct and I agree with everything he said. A LOT of shame tactics by some of the comments on this article. “self pitying men” came up a bit. Pretty much we’re trying to educate others and they’re saying “grow up (and eventually die from stress or your dangerous job). They don’t care about the men who have died from stressful work.
I noticed something and it’s that these women that post try to describe every bit of their life and how good of a person they are. Do we care if you see yourself as “intelligent” or “attractive” or if you’re straight or not. None of those things are relevand and yet they must start their comments out like that. What it seems to me is that they’re trying to make themself feel better by either fooling everyone else and thereby fooling themselves or just hoping that someone else will agree and they’ll be like fhew, I’m not one of the women described in this article.
A lot of commenters opinions being passed off as facts and I’m glad Reverand Porkchops (and any logical man) are seeing through the BS.
carolinemazivisa on
August 6th, 2007 1:44 am
I need good ideas on how I should please my man in bed so that he cannot go for other women. I need this 13 ways a wife can please her husband so when we touch it makes him wild.
Sick Boi on
August 6th, 2007 7:25 am
Great story!! Glad to see some new stuff on the site!! Keep up the great work guys.
WC on
August 6th, 2007 11:39 am
To me I just didn’t make enough money. My wife left me for a “new life” without me in it and a 20,000 dollar raise. I only make 15 an hour. After the 200 dollars is taken off the top for the down payment on our house, there’s not much of a check left. 5 years into a 30 year mortgage. I wonder how the lawyers will work that out. I am a wreck now but I will be fine.
Reverend Porkchops on
August 9th, 2007 5:16 pm
NCM, It sounds to me like the problem lies with you. You yourself admit that your husband is a good man. Thus, listening to your alleged “problem”, makes me wonder what on god’s green earth is going to make you “happier” by divorcing your “good man” husband? It seems to me that you are simply looking at the greener grass on the other side of the fence, but no one seemingly had told you that the reason why the grass is greener over there is because it’s fertilized with b.s.
The bottom line, which women need to understand, is that if the husband is not happy, then no one is happy. If you were a wise woman, you would focus your efforts and time to care for your husband’s happiness first and foremost, when he is happy then your happiness should naturally flow from his. But as you describe, you are like a typical western woman who can only focus solely upon her happiness, and blame all of your unhappiness upon your husband, thus your reason for divorcing your husband.
Spliffy on
August 10th, 2007 10:05 pm
I am being pushed into marriage even though I have made it clear that I do not want to get married. Women will force you to get married saying things like “I love you.” Don’t fall for it. It’s a lie.
daz on
August 12th, 2007 8:56 pm
I like the idea of these devices. Often times when I lift up the seat, there isn’t anything to make it, oh I don’t know, more fun. BUT….a target to aim at, well that changes everything! Seeing that this device would be electrical, I don’t imagine it will react well to a stream of urine hitting it and of course if it doesn’t look damaged enough then you can always be a man about it: Throw it on the floor, crush it with your heel and then castigate yourself severely for allowing yourself to be lured into a home that would have one of these in it. Oh yeah, there’s also Plan B for witty men: if you see one of these, ignore the toilet and use the sink!
(female reader) on
August 14th, 2007 6:48 am
Ok…you’re complaining about women who stay at home with kids & here you’re complaining about women going to work: “choosing career and their own wants above all else.”. Obviously, you just don’t like women you complain either way. wah…wah…wah.
(female reader) on
August 14th, 2007 10:10 am
I think Ingrid said it the best. My great grandfather left the whole family never to be seen again. My 95 year old Gram still gets tears in her eyes talking about him. My grandfather was an alcoholic & on the other side Grand-dad killed himself. The women were always left to pick up the pieces & hold it together for everyone. I have a friend AND his Dad who both killed themselves. I have seen cowardice men yet I don’t chalk it up to all men being cowards.
I will NOT resort to being bitter & not liking all men & making generalizations as you all are. It’s ludicrous. There are strong, wonderful women AND men & damn awful ones also. You are limiting your lives with your bitterness & taking yourselves to the level of the women who hurt you. Get over it already.
Curiepoint on
August 15th, 2007 7:51 pm
You’re kidding, right?
Services, laws, and other special considerations exclusive to women are by their very definition helping the deceitful.
diz on
August 16th, 2007 4:40 pm
This apparently was designed on behalf of women who don’t want to clean up after men. It’s ineffective and obviously offensive to men. I understand that. Whiz any way you want, your aim will help. Just take responsibility for cleaning up after yourself.
Say you get the flu and have to blow chunks into the porcelain convenience. Do you wanna hang over a rim that is encrusted with yellowed bacteria? Oh, well you could barf with the seat down. Sure. it still splashes. Who cleans that up? Bottom line is this, take all the freedom of choice you want, but don’t expect a female to perform a responsibility that an adult male is perfectly capable of doing. If everyone takes responsibility for their own stuff, life would work better.
diz on
August 16th, 2007 6:33 pm
In current times a pre-nup may be advisable since today’s women may be more educated and self-reliant and have their own assets. So it depends on who you are involved with. I have a friend who was injured severely in a car accident, and though she is now, for all to see who don’t know her, a regular person, she has health issues that require her to have access to her $$$ she received in a settlement. This is a condition that will be with her the rest of her life. Thus, she needs a pre-nup if she were to marry, to protect her very life and well-being.
Aside from that, if you are not going to have children, why get married? What about living together and knowing each day that you are CHOOSING to be with this person again for another day? This is not to sound short-termed, but to create awareness of how you are together. Taking each other for granted is too easily a product of marriage. Why not a daily commitment, like when things were good while you were still dating? (The same things that get stilted when you marry. A kind of having caught the bus so you stop running?)
If you have children, that is another dimension entirely and their legal rights are paramount and the whole picture changes. Then if you choose to get married, you probably need to be most creative and broad-minded about how the pre-nup is worded.
diz on
August 16th, 2007 6:58 pm
Jensen, sounds like you got the major shaft from some woman that gives other women a bad name. I got the same treatment from a man who is her twin. I agree with your advice, having gone through the ringer, and it is best employed by either party — which ever is privy to this insight first.
diz on
August 16th, 2007 7:36 pm
“When she turns off, it’s not that she’s forgotten. It’s that she’s started to give up on the relationship.”
ncm, I’m totally relating to you. Marriage is so often a union of mis-matched personalities. We make the best of it, believing in our vows. We build a history and a family together, but finally we face the truth that we both made a mistake. We watch him long for what we are not designed to give him. We ourselves long for what is alien to him. Concern for the children keep the years accumulating.
we both need to be put out of our misery.
Guys, once the writing is on the wall, why can’t we recognize that our season together is over? It was most likely a mistake from the start, but we gave it our best shot together. If your’re so unhappy as to be always looking for the greener grass somewhere else isn’t it time for us both to find some life-giving experience elsewhere?
After 12 years of marriage my ex told me he didn’t love me and never really did, that he was pushing 40 when we met and he just wanted to be married. So he settled on me. He also said he never really liked me the whole time, but just kept hoping that he would as time went on. So much for the vows (which he never kept because he always had one foot outside our so-called commitment). So, yeah, when we divorced, I got half of everything, including support while I attended a university for a degree. And I feel that I deserved this much for what it ended up that I had signed on for.
I know that not all men are like this, but just as there are some women who are ****, so there are men who are also. I know they are all not that way, but my path has not encountered one personally. Don ‘t you guys find that marriage can be more lonely and filled with a sense of entrapment than being single? I do. Thus, today I am single and content. What drives so many of us to link up with the wrong people, I have no idea? I’ve had lots of theories, but life has shown that there is no formula. As mom used to say, “You pay your money and you takes your chances.” Just be careful out there if you still have the desire to link up with someone. Take your time. Use your gut and your common sense, and may luck be with you. It’s a thorny world out there among the roses.
diz on
August 16th, 2007 8:13 pm
“An episode from the first season of “Heroes” featured one such male character, with superpowers no less. Still, he was content to tag along in the rear as his aggressive female partner charged into a violent suspect’s home instead of calling for backup. The fact that she and other such female characters typically weigh only 90 pounds and have more intimidating hairdos than they do physical prowess seems to make little difference.”
hello, this is Fiction!
“When male characters do exhibit masculine traits on TV, they are often made to look like fools in the process. Sitcoms such as “According to Jim” and “King of Queens” — featuring overweight, average-looking husbands married to gorgeous, skinny wives — are a prime culprit. The man is usually portrayed as a complete schlub who couldn’t find his ear from his elbow without the guidance of his far intellectually superior wife.”
it’s about time men got jerked over this kind of portrayal of men!
“Whatever happened to the strong silent type? The male movie stars of yesteryear provided some good examples. Men with the quiet strength of Gary Cooper, the warmth and humility of Jimmy Stewart or the laconic toughness of Robert Mitchum were the real deal. Hold the tears.”
These were men of virtue, again, Fiction.
Why can’t people, including men of all ilks and design, just be who they are inside without all this programming of how some people think they should be? sounds like an awful lot of “shoulding” on yourselves.
Pognis on
August 17th, 2007 5:11 am
Great views! But well, living alone is also not a healthy choice. People may prefer to stay with animals (pets) than living alone.
Shauna on
August 17th, 2007 9:42 am
This article confirms something about men and women that I’ve known for awhile, and that’s the fact that women tend to be more…”hardened” by relationships than men. It starts out with what the sexes are generally taught about *** and relationships.
Men are often taught that *** is not a big deal unless it’s within a specific relationship (ie: marriage). Women, on the other hand, are taught that *** is important no matter who you do it with. But on the other hand, if a man pays lots of attention to a woman who he’s not having *** with, his wife or girlfriend may be more jealous than if he was simply having *** on the side simply because the “emotional connection” is there. Same goes for if a woman has a “great male friend” who she spends more time with than her husband or boyfriend. Many men will feel slightly jealous but would only get really threatened if she were having *** with the male friend.
Similarly, when it comes to relationships, girls are often sexually and hormonally ahead of boys simply due to biology. They talk about the boys they like with their girlfriends when boys are still free of such neurotic desires. And often, when the boys finally *do* get old enough to start having ****** and relationship desires, they’re hampered by a big problem: who can you talk to about relationships? Most male friends want to hear the breakdown of how much you made out, got to second base, or “went all the way”, but many men are specifically taught to feel uncomfortable with the dynamics of a relationship. So, they go to the next best thing; actions and events. Instead of thinking necessarily how his wife might be feeling (which, due to the emotional submissiveness that is programmed into most women, is hidden by the woman meticulously so he’s supposed to psychically know that she’s upset while acting cheerful), he judges his success in the relationship by the activities he does with his wife or his children. If his wife is smiling as she brings dinner to the table or laughs at one of his jokes, how the hell is he to know she’s brooding and really just wants him to give her a back rub or kiss her neck?
The truth is, that most of our traditional gender roles practically FORCE men and women to slowly but surely cut each other off and kill the relationship between them.
*sarcasm* And heaven forbid that the marriage or relationship look anything less than “perfect”, because if you have a fight or an argument, that must mean that the relationship is over! *sarcasm*
In the end, I can see where a lot of women might want to leave their husbands because it’s really not “doing it” for them anymore. Or they feel that they simply have the “right” to be ******** to their husbands just like some past husbands have traditionally been ******** to their past wives.
However, this “getting even” behavior really doesn’t tend to work. And as I’ve said before, most women try using manipulation and nuances to hint at what they want, rather than coming out and saying it. She may rather get a divorce than work things out and have the man yell at her or attack her verbally, which is simply not the way that she is used to doing it, while being subtle, hinting, and using manipulative diplomatic language is usually not the first thing on a man’s mind when his wife goes on about how she wants to leave.
So in the end, I suggest a compromise. Everyone has something to work on, so I suggest that you ask the woman in the relationship in a non confrontational way that she be open, honest, and glib when it comes to what she wants in the relationship. You want her to be explicit when she desires something because you’re not psychic. And believe me, most women don’t seem to be able to understand this until someone says it to their faces.
And in return, tell her that you will try to become better tuned at “reading people” (which is a good skill to have anyway), by trying to understand that her behavior may not always dictate her mental state.
Even in healthy relationships, there are problems, so I also suggest that if you’re upset at each other, you need to sit down and discuss things like adults. Keep it on subject (no letting one person or both getting into a “hate fest” or a “blame fest”), and lay out the problem, as well as possible solutions. So many people seem to think that if you have a “perfect” relationship that means that no one is ever angry or fights, but that usually just means that both people resent one another and are silently brooding, which is not healthy.
Shauna on
August 17th, 2007 9:46 am
I whole heartedly agree that prenuptial agreements are important. Many people get married thinking that they can “change” the person they’re marrying about important issues like; having kids, having pets, living in another state, not being a workaholic, or whatever. Having a big list of what the relationship entails (as well as legal stuff in the event of a spouse’s death, or divorce) is very smart so that both parties know to some extent what they’re getting into.
It’s smart for men, it’s smart for women. I think that a prenuptial to some extent should be legally required with a marriage license.
After all, it’s better to be safe than sorry because you were “young and blind with love.”
I suppose dad could “step up to the plate” for his “delinquent” son, no?
Ahhhhh….but that’s a whole other issue, isn’t it? Let mom do all the work and let mom take alllll the responsibility for how her kids turn out.
Peh…this is a created bias on a personal issue.
Kim on
August 18th, 2007 3:35 pm
Great post.
I resent Ann’s comment that all we need men for is money…and not even that. This is much of what’s wrong with marriage today, that type of attitude.
and ncm…
There are times in all marriages when things aren’t great, but if you’re unhappy, you need to fix that problem, it’s not your husband’s responsibility to make you happy. You’re never going to find that perfect person, because he doesn’t exist. If you have a family together, and he treats you well, then you should make it work. Chances are that in time, things will improve, especially if you start finding ways to be happy with yourself, without expecting to get that from somebody else. IMO, finding out your husband is only human is not an acceptable reason to end your marriage and put your children through a divorce.
Aaron on
August 19th, 2007 4:21 pm
Plastic Surgery is just for ugly people. Never date a girl who had surgery (try to find out if she did).
These women are “false” products.
High Heels – you ain’t that tall
Makeup – you don’t look like that.
Hair – it’s not that color or that thick
Teeth – they’re not that white
boobs – they’re not that big & firm
Fake lashes, nails, tits, etc, etc, etc
Take it all away and you have nothing.
Curiepoint on
August 22nd, 2007 12:10 pm
Fine…Not happy and want a divorce? Great, go for it.
But if he’s paying the mortgage, he gets the house.
If you have kids, and you want free and easy, let him take them.
If you have no marketable skills and thus are unemployable, move in with mom and dad and go back to school. Don’t dun him for your lifestyle choices.
The point is not the devastation of losing a wife that bothers us half as much as being made a fool of for x number of years, and still being made responsible for funding her way towards “a happier life”.
The bottom line: you want out of the marriage, get out of his life entirely.
Guys, diz makes one good point: marriage will ultimately lead to being more lonely than being single. Do not marry as you will regret it in time.
“The only thing it seems we can rely on men for is money, but we can do that ourselves, thank you.”
If that were true, then there’s no need for alimony or child support, right?
Bobby G on
August 22nd, 2007 6:51 pm
This woman is from the pit of hell and is the poster child of women who literally get away with murder. If this was a guy he’d hang, but she is a free woman, what a travesty!
Mary on
August 25th, 2007 12:59 pm
I’m a woman and agree with this article. I initiated a pre-nup with my fiance so that money will never be a reason we are together. I also agree that any woman who wouldn’t sign a pre-nup has made her choice to marry at least in part based on the lifestyle – marrying the man promises. You aren’t buying her (or are you?) so money should not be a factor. Pre-nups provide an opportunity to focus on what’s important to one another. If a woman is insulted by a pre-nup, I think she has something to hide. (Her expectation that she will be entitled regardless of whether or not you live your entire lives together).
I feel for all of you guys! I’m really disgusted by what i see.
Henry on
August 26th, 2007 5:11 pm
Finally someone with brains, guts & conviction puts together a much needed program that will help men through their divorce. Although the “LAW” is supposed to be gender neutral, I feel women get their way in divorce much too often and a product like this is sorrily needed.
Looks like our brothers now have a chance to emerge victorious and intact financially, emotionally & hopefully with an equal share of custody of their children.
Scott on
August 27th, 2007 9:18 am
I mean it.. You are doing something really good for all these men that are literally being stepped on and abused, ashamed of coming out.
anarchiste on
August 27th, 2007 9:21 am
I just knew that somehow something of that sort was going to happen. The dogs have been kicked in the teeth long enough. Now is biting back time. It’s gonna get rock and roll.
As someone whos had my *** handed to me by a former boyfriend, this makes me sick.
That someone would use something like this for gain is disgusting.
Ghostdog on
August 27th, 2007 1:37 pm
I don’t understand this backlash against plastic surgery and I don’t think I ever will. And this does not mean that, I, myself endorse it or am against it. I just don’t understand how, what a person does for themselves, to themselves is anybody’s business.
To get you all riled up or so you don’t think I am trying to hide anything I will tell you that my fiancée had large jubblies and she also elected for jubbly implant surgery because she felt she was losing some of that perky quality that her friends with smaller jubblies have. She is currently a 34FF/34G and a petite 5ft 2, 120ish-lbs and I can hear the jokes coming.
I think some of you really seem to have a big problem with jubbly implants. I’m trying to think why? I understand the potential sociological & psychological implications that are always thrust on these women as if they have no mind of their own. And you know, maybe some of them don’t, maybe most of them don’t but because some or most do it for what may be the wrong reasons, does that make it wrong for everyone? Apparently, so. My guess would be that some of you are those that would make an obnoxious comment or roll there eyes at my fiancée. Why? What’s the point? Why is it so important to seem to be superior? Usually this stems from people who have low self-esteem and like to lash out against others or others who are different. Perhaps I’m wrong.
“I support a woman’s right to choose whatever she wants to do to her body, but I would urge you to look into the social and psychological side effects as well as the physical ones.”
This seems to be the same type of response I have seen on other blogs. One woman went on and on where it seemed like she was going to explode about how “evil” jubbly implants were and wanted to start a group against them. I told her, Let me ask you something…. How much work do you do espousing the evils of unprotected *** in your local community? I’m sure you must because more women die each year because of having unprotected *** than getting jubbly implants and I know that you said it yourself that “there are more important issues to spend time and money on besides enhancing jubblies” so I am guessing that you spend a lot of time helping them and donate a lot of money as well. Also, are you a MADD supporter? Because you know that more people each year by getting into an accident with a drunk driver than into an accident with fake jubblies. So with this money you have saved and all this time you have because of not getting jubbly implants, enlighten us with all your accomplishments. I think you see where we are going here so unless you are Mother Teresa I think you are basically just using the drama of your statement very haphazardly. I always love to hear the holier than though talking about the evils of the world while they are snacking on potato chips and watching “Joey”.
Anyway, it should be everyone’s choice to do what they want to themselves in my mind. You want to kill yourself? Go ahead, but think about it first and make sure you are making the right decision. You want to put tattoo’s all over your body. Go ahead but think about it first. I don’t like tattoo’s at all but Im not going to go on a rampage about it. I don’t have any numbers to back this up but I would bet there are some people that die each year because of poorly sterilized tattoo needles or infections from them, no? Think about the repercussions of what you are going to do and than make an “adult” decision about it or at least as much of an adult decision you are capable of. I do think you should have to be of a certain age and personally I think 18 is too young so that seems to fall more on the ethics of the doctors than the patient. And yes, I often question the ethics of the medical profession but it is what it is. To somewhat quote one of our posters, It would seem that there are more important things to do than worry about some other woman’s jubblies and if they are fake or not. Who cares? Get on with your life! As long as you are happy that’s all that matters. I would be equally as angry if someone made a rude comment about my fiancées big jubblies or your small jubblies. It’s just obnoxious behavior and done be feeble little minds.
One person said, We talk about the dangers of surgery for what you get out of it… “bigger jubblies” but let me pose this. If you could have a surgical procedure down where you could double your intelligence and it would be as risky as that of the surgery of jubbly implants… would you do it? If you could have surgery that would allow you to live twice as long, where at 86.4 years you would look and feel 33.2 years old or at 172.8 years old you would look and feel 86.4 years old, (Dow better get working on that.. I don’t think I want to see that )with the same risks that would be taken under normal jubbly implant surgery, would you do it? Let’s be realistic. I think most of us would and even if most of us wouldn’t why shouldn’t that be offered to those would like that option?
Ok, lastly, Because I know this is going to degenerate into the “physical beauty” is not as important as spiritual, intellectual blah blah. Any idiot can see that we put a greater value on our perceived physical beauty in America as witnessed by the 2 dopes, Bush & Clinton we elected into office over the last 15 years but I don’t want this to turn into a political discussion. But let’s talk about beauty or perceived beauty.
Every culture has a different view of what beauty the hispanic culture typically founds a larger tush appealing, in some tribes they have the neck rings which make the neck extremely long, not my idea of beauty but to some like it. The reason women get jubbly implants.. I’m going out on a limb here… They for some reason do not like their jubblies? Some people will say it’s vanity. And I think that is 100% hypocritical. I don’t think there is a person around that does not try to look “good” for the people around them. Otherwise we would spend time buying clothes, trying them on, seeing if they fit, “just right”, putting on make up, getting their haircut yada yada yada. This is all done to attract the opposite *** or same ***, what have you. We can debate on and on over what is worse, the risks of surgery or that four thousand dollars that was spent on that new wardrobe when your credit cards are maxed out. Each presents a risk and each person needs to determine their own risk.
Each person determines what their own idea of beauty is. It’s like saying that Van Gogh is better than Renoir or that Bresson is better than Dreyer or for that matter that Adam Sandler is funnier than Albert Brooks “UG”. The point is that the one thing we are very lucky is the fact that we have the right to choose. As much as I have tremendous amount of disdain for the media-produced, non-thinking presidential puppets we parade, the one thing we still have, is the right to think as we please. So far………
Move on to more important issues. As Hegel states: The higher truth lies somewhere in the middle of two extremes. In this instance that may be between “A” and “HHH”
Pre-nups are great! As long as they spell out what the woman will get if there is a divorce, SUPER! But um, only an idiot would marry a man who tries to make her sign a paper saying that after he uses her for a ****-toy for a while she can be tossed aside with nothing.
Make them sign the pre-nups ladies! And make sure you’re protected for when the ******* throws you out!!!
Vince Melito on
September 2nd, 2007 6:58 am
OK guys and gals – experience tells me that our partners are not at all responsible for our happiness. Those who leave their spouse to be relieved of boredom or to bring the possibility of happiness are mistaken. Whether you are with someone or alone, you must take out your internal trash and do the necessary things to maintain your own mental health and happiness. Then you can share this with your partner.
Polarizing should be limited to *** – because if we polarize again, as men and women, the the right wrong scenarios will begin and the dominant of the two polarities will take control of the working markets and trade agai.. This is not a new phenomenon, but has repeated itself historically.
What I believe is missing here is humility, from both sexes. I must admit that my experience is that men are more stable emotionally than women and that I wouldn’t have put my heart in my own mothers hands – her intense vacillation and harbored hatred would have killed me.
Has anyone here ever heard of the Collective Female Pain Body ?- Read Ekhart Tolle …Awesome.
JD on
September 10th, 2007 3:24 am
Clare,
before you feel too sick, have a look at the way some (and for some read a hell of a lot of) women act.
Shelters for women are definitely necessary, but so is the relationship between a father and his children.
Joel on
September 10th, 2007 3:43 am
Thanks for the post. You have been through the mill, and that is some expensive sound advice.
Another BIG BIG heads up – I hear about people thinking that marrying a woman from outside the US is going to be different. They are the same species, and if the country they are from is poorer than the US, could it be that they are marrying for money?
The only difference can be that they start scheming at the start of the relationship, or even before.
One more warning – in some countries e.g. Brazil, just living together is enough for you to be shafted, you don’t even have to be married.
Curiepoint on
September 10th, 2007 4:31 am
In Jensen’s follow-up post, he speaks of lots of mail from women who are aghast that any man could be so “mean” in dealing with a divorce…the children suffer, they only want what’s fair and the ever-popular not-all-women-are-like-that (yawn…zzzz…).
What he goes on to mention is that all of these tactics were taken from a book intended for women contemplating divorce. Apparently, it’s okay for women to scheme it up like this, but not men.
As far as not all women (blah blah blah), the point is not whether a majority or minority of women would embrace such means or not. The very real point is that society as a whole gives women enough of a pass in their behavior to signify it’s approval of their taking such recourse. Divorce is a legal affair, not an emotional one. Whenever one enters into a court room, they enter a battlefield where it’s fight or die. What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
I say that men have been far too nice in taking their lumps in the arenas of public and legal discourse. The tide is turning, and men are beginning to wake up to the reality of their enemies. It’s time, gentlemen…time to begin surviving and meting out our own brand of just and equitable treatment.
Curiepoint on
September 11th, 2007 3:40 am
Pre-Nups are great in theory. They are more often than not set aside at the time of divorce, particularly if the terms of the agreement stipulate that the man gets anything that could be construed as fair and equitable division of property. Women commonly claim that they felt coerced into signing as a condition of the marriage going forward, and the mangina judges say “Oh, you poor bullied dear”.
A roll of toilet paper has more worth than a pre-nup.
As far as men using women as ***toys and then casting them aside, most divorces are initiated by women for no other reason than their husbands are continuously delighting them in their lives (i.e. they feeeeeel unfulfilled) or more likely she is a subscriber to AshleyMadison (dot) com and has gotten herself something going on the side.
I’m all for equal division of jointly acquired property, but it had damned well better be 50/50. Anything they brought into the marriage independently immediately reverts back to them. If he bought the house, she has no rights to it whatsoever. If she did, then he doesn’t have a stake in it either.
Curiepoint on
September 12th, 2007 5:36 am
Jim,
The co-workers are not better than you. Only if you allow them or your non-wife to take that position will you be cast in that light. I say don’t let them do that to you.
By what you say, I have to wonder why she agreed to marriage in the first place. She doesn’t give a **** about you or how you feel, and it’s all about her feelings. In a committed relationship, it is not wrong to expect that one’s partner confer special consideration onto the other in a way that they do not with anyone else; any and all resistance to that is a pure indicator that one does not matter in the least. That is what is happening with you.
I know you love her, but she clearly is more concerned about cheeking it up with other men than giving creedence to anything you might feel. Her boss is probably encouraging her in all of this, as it would hurt your marriage and the company can monopolize her time and energy without conscience.
I’m sorry to say thus, dude…but be prepared to find out about her cheating on you with one of these sleaze-*****. If your feelings can be cast aside without discussion or acknowledgement, she will have no compunction to really run roughshod over you. I suggest strongly that you give her an ultimatum to sit down and talk about all of this. If she refuses, tell her that she just made a huge mistake, and it will cost her dearly. Talk to a lawyer, and let her know that you are.
Don’t let her do this to you. Assert yourself and defend your emotional well-being. You needn’t give up entirely on the marriage, but if you let things go the way they are, it will come to an end without your input. If it ends anyway, then make it a situation where you have equal control in the decision. Gather some support around you in the form of friends and family…it sounds like you’re gonna need them.
Gar on
September 16th, 2007 8:19 pm
Great, so now we’re not only fighting feminists, we’re fighting masculinists. Why not just stand up to the feminists? Get your male behinds (also the fems that back you up) on television, radio, and everywhere else and start demanding the respect you deserve!! I know it’s not in the male to fight against women, but sometimes a woman needs help to snap out of it.
Rick on
September 17th, 2007 11:13 am
When Paul McCarney sings “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer” today, his face contorts with anger, he swears incessantly, throws his guitar to the floor and walks off the stage screaming and yelling.
LMAO
Johnny Loco on
September 17th, 2007 6:44 pm
“If you ask her to do something she doesn’t enjoy, that’s domination. If she asks you, it’s a favor.”
Google ‘Mary Winkler‘ and you’ll realize why this statement is 100 percent true.
T-Bone on
September 17th, 2007 8:23 pm
“But to actually want a legal reason for divorcing on the grounds of, “She is not sleeping with me,” is ridiculous!”
Right, because we wouldn’t EVER want a woman to have to take responsibility for engaging in a legal contract that stipulates *** will be involved. Heck, you’re right! Why should a woman ever have to take any kind of responsibility for her own actions? Here’s a hint Jared; with “equality” comes responsibility. Instead of being some uber-mangina; try dealing with reality… you’ll live longer.
Fellow Traveller on
September 21st, 2007 5:12 pm
Holy She-it!
Ya just got to wonder.
Great web-site!
Keep it up!
Informative and amusing (about “womyns’ tactics that is!)
FT
TCS on
September 24th, 2007 4:30 pm
Great advice! I can attest to the preemption tweak-out If I didn’t know any better, I’d say our author might have his own personal vietnam like the rest of us
Joel on
September 25th, 2007 8:54 am
I think I’m in the same boat with you, Pablo. Good luck to you man. I’m gonna have to consider the alternative as well. I’m glad I got to see all these writings. I couldn’t really place a description on her BS… until now.
Tony on
September 27th, 2007 8:41 am
Tmz is reporting that daughter,Ashley Perrin, has been killed in a traffic accident this week. How very tragic! She leaves behind an 8 year old daughter.
A one-vehicle traffic accident claimed the life of 25-year-old Ashley Perrin of Ponchatoula Tuesday afternoon.
Perrin, of 525 Kathleen St., died on the Interstate 55 Southeast Service Road in Ponchatoula. Police Lt. Raymond Mauterer said the accident happened about 2:30 p.m.
She was alone in a mini van when it hit the guard rail while traveling north on the service road. The roadway showed no skid marks, Mauterer said, and the cause of the accident is unknown at this time.
She was ejected from the vehicle and was dead at the scene, Mauterer said.
Drugs or alcohol are not suspected, he said.
Perrin is the daughter of Marguerite Perrin, who gained national recognition for her role in the Fox television series “Trading Spouses.”
Although we are guilty of poking fun at The God Warrior (which we believe she didn’t mind judging by the way she hammed it up on additional talk show appearances), nonetheless… a parent should NEVER have to bury a child. The staff here at DYWN are truly saddened to hear the news of Ashley’s passing. Ashley seemed like a smart and caring woman on the TV show. We truly wish the Perrin family our condolences in their time of grief.
Chuck on
October 11th, 2007 10:52 am
This should have come out YEARS ago. I have an uncle who had a nervous breakdown and almost died while going through a divorce and wrangling with the psychotic divorce courts/lawyers.
Heather on
October 11th, 2007 8:46 pm
I am a SAHM of two young children.
Not all SAHMs are fat, lazy, ungrateful slobs, as you portray them to be. I work hard from the time my children get up in the morning, until they go to bed at night. I have great respect for how hard my husband works, and I am very careful with the money he earns.
I do the laundry (including washing cloth diapers) cleaning, bill-paying and gardening. I cook every meal from scratch, usually while holding my baby on one hip. I make and freeze my own baby food, and my child is exclusively breastfed to avoid the purchase of formula. I keep a price book, so that all necessities are purchased as cheaply as possible. Nearly all of my children’s clothing is purchased at garage sales. I rarely shop (except for food), never make social phone calls, and never buy anything for myself. In fact, I rarely do anything for myself at all.
Being a SAHM is no picnic. It’s exhausting, boring, and repetitive. There are no breaks. Our work is unappreciated, and people like you try your best to make us feel completely worthless. Despite all of this, we willingly sacrifice years of our lives because we love our children and want what is best for them. There is simply no substitute for parents in the life of a young child.
Fortunately, my husband knows this. He is a genuinely good man, and not because he’s a “good provider.” He puts his family first over the almighty dollar, and he respects me and the work that I do for our family.
A Woman on
October 14th, 2007 2:42 pm
Forgive my wordiness that follows, but I am a woman after all (smile)…
Not only is the pill to blame, but so is feminism, rejection of Christian values, and the denial of innate masculine and feminine hard-wiring (manifested in behavior). Put simply, many women don’t behave like real women these days, and likewise, many men don’t behave like real men. People are confused as to their true nature and our roles are all screwed up thanks to the influences mentioned at the start of this post. My generation (I am 32) on down is paying the price for something that we didn’t create, but have been force-fed through post-1960s socialization.
Women are not designed to mannishly engage in casual *** with multiple, temporary partners, chase after men, or put objects (i.e. career and material things) before people (i.e. relationships). Likewise, men are not designed to be ***-crazed skirt-chasers bent on sticking it to as many women as they can. Evolution is a farce and doesn’t satisfactorily address a vital component of human nature: we are spiritual as well as physical beings. We all seem to forget that, and treat each other like soulless animals without dignity and respect.
Nonetheless, none of this surprising nor accidental: I believe that what we are now facing was by design. It’s sad, but there are enough of us good ones–men and women–out there to tap into our true identities and build faithful and fruitful relationships with each other.
A Woman on
October 14th, 2007 3:07 pm
Prenuptial agreements have no place in a marriage–any marriage. If a man desires trust from his wife-to-be (as the writer of this articles purports), he should trust her as well. A prenup is a sure sign that the man who wants one doesn’t have much for the woman he claims to love and wants to marry.
The problem? Men and women don’t take the time to choose wisely for a spouse. They try to take the easy route (i.e. men focus on her appearance to the exclusion of other, far more important criteria, while women focus on his wallet and what he can give her materially to the exclusion of far more important criteria) and then try to cover their butt with a prenup. It doesn’t work.
It seems to me instead that you should find a person whom you can trust and marry her/him. If you think you’ll need a prenup, you’re probably marrying the wrong person. Furthermore, if you have trust issues, you are probably the wrong person for her/him to marry as well.
A Woman on
October 14th, 2007 4:41 pm
Feminism is evil. Men and women need to overcome this evil with good in two important ways: 1) get back to our biological masculinity and femininity; and 2) make wiser choices for romantic/marriage partners.
JBM on
October 15th, 2007 2:23 pm
All true, I was played like a cheap fiddle in my divorce. One has to get vicious, and there is no better word. No one else will look after you.
John on
October 19th, 2007 6:19 am
Family law sucks…The police suck. If you’re a man you’re the bad guy.
I met a troubled woman who used to be a stripper and a drug addict. She had a criminal record and a history of alcoholism and ************ in her family. I didn’t know much about her past when she became pregnant.
So after 1 year of hell, I obtained a court order in order to have custody of my little girls so that she wouldn’t be taken interstate. This woman called the police and fabricated allegations of domestic violence. I was arrested and photographed as a criminal. The ironic thing is I work for the Police myself! I never had any problems with the law, and this woman was able to manipulate not only the police but the family law system at her will.
Solicitors had recommended her to do so in order to gain custody of our daughter back.
The charges were dropped and I was given 1 year of good behaviour. I’m still with her playing possum. She apologized and wanted me back… once she got what she wanted.
I feared that if I left her then she wouldn’t have dropped the false claims. I almost lost my job and my daughter forever.
In February once the probation is over, I’m getting the hell out of here. I feel so sad for my little ones, but what can I do when the system and the law uphold the injustice for men in general?
Praxton on
October 20th, 2007 2:56 pm
Too bad that the internet with all the wealth of information on how much of a lousy deal marriage is for men and how in general what worthless mates the most american women make was not widely available when I met my parasite of wife about 10 years ago. If I had had the benefit of this and other websites regarding such matters, I would have made a business decision not to get married or have children. Instead I made the mistake of marrying some financially impaired drama queen with an entitlement mentality and I have seen a good bit of my net worth evaporate. If I leave her I will likely lose half or more of what is left of my assets and be forced to pay unreasonable amounts of child support for my son. While I love my son and understand that I have an obligation to him – where’s my wife’s obligation to help support him? Why is it that a woman’s dream of motherhood transalates into a man solely bearing the back breaking financial overhead and lifetime of being a wage slave.
Curiepoint on
October 25th, 2007 11:50 am
I wonder if, as the numbers of us who go through divorce increase, this will become the norm of living. I know that it’s really going that way already and seems unstoppable…but perhaps when it becomes the norm, the pain expressed in this post will be dulled. As it is, whatever heartache an individual experiences out of divorce, it seems to pass much quicker than expected. Perhaps we will reach a point where it won’t hurt at all.
Once marriage becomes extinct, then maybe we can just live without the invevitable pain.
Curiepoint on
October 25th, 2007 12:04 pm
Hey great, So you’ve got a happy marriage where your man gets all the *** he could ever want or need.
By the way…what color is the sky on your planet?
Even if what you say is the truth, what makes you think this is typical of women? It’s really very simple:
*** costs, one way or another. Whether it’s money directly, or a pre-configured lifestyle, or an early grave earned from hump-busting at work to afford it all, it costs. We like to pretend otherwise, but then maybe that’s how some of us can look into the mirror in the morning without retching.
Men usually have money. Women usually have the necessary orifices. We each have what the other wants. You can moralize about the shallowness of men all you want, but it doesn’t do anything to deflect light off of women’s own shallowness. At least prosties and johns are cutting through the emotional blackmail. Just remember…men don’t pay the pros for s*x…they pay them to leave after the s*x is done.
Women are tired from caring for their families all day long…HA!
Like that happens.
Nick on
October 28th, 2007 1:33 am
Thank you Christian J for the fine post.
You just described my ex-wife, who 10 years after our divorce (at her insistence) has yet to meet a satisfactory man or have any children. Raised as a “princess” and bent on a professional career, no man was good enough. It was the same story with her first husband, who lasted just a little longer than I did. She’s in her mid-40’s now. Plenty of education, money, and travel experience, but no family and no prospects–living alone in a white condo-box with her cats. One of the most selfish people I’ve ever met.
With my eyes now open, there’s no way in hell I would marry or even date a typical Western women from the US, Canada, Australia, Scandinavia, etc. I’m not saying they are all bad, but the risk of a miserable outcome is just too high.
In contrast, my girlfriend, born and raised in Mexico, is delightful and compassionate. After seven years, there’s never been a real argument, and we still hold hands walking down the street. For me, traditional women that have not been poisoned by feminism and media influences are the only way to go. For you younger guys out there, all I have to say is forget about these selfish gringas, just walk away, you can do MUCH better elsewhere, such as Mexico or Latin America. Good luck!
Andrew on
October 29th, 2007 11:56 am
I love your website. I am a lawyer but I do not do family law. I used to. One bit of advice I think is very important is this: NEVER, EVER hit your wife, even in retaliation. I’ve had several clients who swear (and I believe them) that their wife preempted a fight by throwing punches, dishes, and slaps at them. And the second the husband pushed her away, or otherwise retaliated…DV time (domestic violence charge). This DV charge can torpedo any chance at child custody and can possibly prevent you from seeking alimony if she makes more money than you.
If she hits YOU, you hit her with a DV action. Not with your fist. A DV action will leave a mark that won’t go away.
If you’re pissed at her, the best place to fight is in a court room using many of the techniques you will read on this website. Fighting with her through words, threats, or fists is a LOSING STRATEGY. If you really want to make her pay, do it through the courts.
Some people actually stay home with their children because they love them and want to raise them instead of handing them over to inadequate care givers that could care less about your child.
steve on
November 6th, 2007 2:53 am
I’ve never been married, but even girlfriends treat me this way. As soon as they get bored or think they can do better, they are gone, but will lie to me the entire time saying everything is fine until I am notified I am dumped. I usually realize it’s coming, but I ask them what’s wrong, they deny anything is wrong, then I get told things aren’t working out and nothing can change it, and basically they have a new boyfriend the next day. I don’t think they understand the concept of loyalty and are so self absorbed.
I’m shocked how well these articles describe my ex-girlfriend, and ex-girlfriends in the past. It’s going to suck being celibate but I’m not into casual relationships, which seems to be the only way to not have your heart broken these days. I’m just sick of being constantly lied to.
It’s a mistake in life to think everyone plays by the golden rule. They simply do not. My view of humanity has been totally destroyed. I’m sure men can be terrible too, but I’ve found them to be far more honest. I just don’t see how a man can even manage to get married these days, given the fact that women change their minds ever 5 seconds.
At least I avoided divorce, but how do you get even that far?
I’m not going to pull any punches here. Your writing is awful! You can’t possibly think that your lack of punctuation and sentence structures qualifies you as superior. If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, at least proofread and spellcheck so that you are understood by your intended audience (something else women don’t seem to get right).
This is part of the reason why I just stopped. I couldn’t go forth with meeting anyone new because during the initial conversations, I had to hear their drivel about marriage and commitment and what men won’t do. When women are posed with the question of “what’s in it (relationship) for me (male),” then it becomes a very short and fragmented discussion. Usually there is nothing in it for us. ***? Yeah but only when she feels like it. If I for once think that it will be a regular thing, then I have to be willing to first endure their emotional babble about how tired, achy, upset, depressed or whatever that they are. Rationing cooch is one certain way to make a man under appreciate you. I can’t deal with the princesses and empresses anymore. Let these other saps have em.
Anarchiste on
November 6th, 2007 10:32 am
I know a man who got kicked out of his own house, was accused of child molestation on his own daughter. He went through all the pains that so many are familiar with. For his good fortune, he joined a Men’s Rights Association and after a bitter battle with a defective justice system and having spent more than $100K, he got his home back and sole custody of his daughter.
His ex-wife bit the dust. The pain has alleviated and everything is back in order for the victim (the man). So, there is hope, but you must be prepared to : 1-Pay a hefty sum of money and 2- Fight like a dog.
Brian on
November 6th, 2007 7:54 pm
I tend to agree. Males tend to gravitate towards females that they are capable of mentally, physically, or emotionally dominating, and the opposite seems to be true of women. They seem to be greatly oriented towards the kind of male that is capable of dominating THEM, and seem to spend a great amount of their time dwelling on the procreative, or ****** aspects of their lives. the highly dominant, aggressive, sexually-oriented male seems to be the most attractive to them, but the same kind of male is also the most likely to ‘wander’ since it is in their best interests, biologically, to spread their genes as far as possible before they die.
There is a difference between ‘play domination’ and ‘true domination’ and the successful non-alpha males that learn this difference are the likeliest to be successful.
This doesn’t mean that adultery is a good idea, since honesty, honor, and fidelity are still highly valued traits, but this DOES mean that a male needs to ensure that their options remain open.
What this means is that you should make sure that you maintain control over your life, not your wife. If you allow your lady to control you through ***, finances, social manipulation, or even guilt you have become immediately less attractive in her eyes. This does not mean that you should diss responsibilities, but that you need to make sure that YOU are the one that chooses to maintain these responsibilities instead of letting her dictate them to you.
You need to stop taking things for granted. And you have to make sure that she does not take them for granted either. ’saturday night ***’ is a bad idea, each attempt should be a seduction, not a grind… for both you and for her. If that means you need to ‘cut her off for a while’ then you should do so so that she realizes that you are your own person.
Two married people do not become ‘whole’, they are still two people who simply chose to take the same path for their life with each other. Reaffirm constantly that you are both your own person and that you are with her because you choose to…not because you have no choice.
It’s a delicate, tough bridge to travel on, but the rewards are certainly worth the trip in the long run. especially for those that are not gifted with monstrous abs and a monster chin.
(Hint, it also helps if you try dating girls that are not particularly interested in the pill)
Brian on
November 6th, 2007 8:40 pm
Well, truthfully I am fairly happily married, but since I am a roleplaying gamer, and so is she, and a computer geek and so is she, and into BDSM…etc. etc. etc. we get along pretty well. I am not just her husband, but her game master and the guy that helps powerlevel her in WoW.
I think I just got lucky in finding a woman as autistic as I am. been together 12 years and we can still find new ways to abuse each other. it’s pretty cool. I am here because I am still having to deal with an ex that ’snuck one up on me’ and mortgaged my life. walked out right after the baby was born, moved to the other side of the country, and presented me with child support papers in insane amounts barely two months later.
Not all women are psychopathic, but I will freely admit that the great majority seem to have been screwed up by their upbringing into thinking that men are only useful for ‘financial independence’.
Shan on
November 7th, 2007 12:19 pm
Ok, so maybe a different light… I’ve been married for almost 5 years. Of which, in the last 30 months. yes, months. I’ve had ****** relations with my husband TWICE. and thats only because I got desperate and drunk. Prior to the kids (3.5 and not quite 1. one of the 2x in the last nearly 3 years) I was always the aggressor….but with the kids and my job, i’m just too tired to be rebuffed after a hour of trying, every day for 1-2-3 months before getting any. I bring home double his income, and do about 90% of the housework, bills, banking, dr appts for HIM as well as the kids, etc. Basically, i’m the wife and husband both. He’s only making enough to cover childcare.
He’s depressed, in a terrific rut, and well…*** drive slump of the ages. Oh, and he’s gained over 100lbs since we met. he blames me for that (i gained and lost 70lbs with each of the two kids, and weigh approx 200lbs less than he does currently) He brings nothing to the table, physically, emotionally, financially, sexually.
Cause I do that for myself, too.
Am I spoiled daddy’s girl for being frustrated and bored with him?
Am I asking too much for a person who WANTS and TRIES to be a equal partner to me? atleast in some aspect?
I don’t think so.
And no, should I divorce him (it’s looking that way) I won’t be seeking half of everything. He keeps his car he had before we met, I keep mine (both cars are 8yrs old) and hopefully i’ll get SOME childsupport from him so I can pay for daycare without being totally strapped for cash. But I can make it either way, with or without his money.
I don’t think i’ve ever changed my mind on him and my wants/needs. he was at those levels when I met him, and he regressed or stood still, while I’ve grown as a person/wife/mother/worker. It shouldn’t be demanding to expect the same in your partner.
I can see how one might resent a stay-at-home mother/houswife for being bored and divorcing or whatever…but I’m in the opposite situation. I feel like I’m the husband, and HE is the “wife” and i’ve just become overwhelmed, under serviced, and bored with him mentally.
If you can’t step your game up to your partner’s level, then it’s time to move on to a new partner, methinks.
Andrea on
November 9th, 2007 4:31 pm
I am a stay at home mother, I also worked full time as a paralegal prior to staying home. Although it is apparent to anyone reading the article and most of the comments that there is a lot of bitterness and just plain idiocy demonstrated here I won’t go on and on about it.
Prior to becoming a SAHM, I was actually the breadwinner of our family (my husband is a teacher) but it was my husband who wanted me to stay at home once I had our 3rd child. Let me tell you dealing with anal attorneys and catty fellow employees is cake compared to dealing w/ 2 & 3 year olds. At my “real” job I was appreciated, valued, and, yes, highly paid. I did work a lot of overtime but usually no more than 50-55 hours a week. Do I watch TV- yes, I watch about 30 minutes of TV about 2 or 3 times a week. Do I go to the park often- yes- after spending about 20-40 minutes fighting to get the kids ready and out the door, then it’s fun for about 30-40 minutes, followed with about 20 minutes of whining, running after kids or yelling. I’m not going to get into dealing w/ all the nastiness of kids because that’s actually the easy part of it all.
Additionally, as for money- I am in charge of the budgeting- I have never been a shopaholic but now I am even more miserly – I save my husband $ not spend it. Yes, I am sure some SAHM have it easy- maybe if you have a lot of $ and only 1 or 2 kids it would be easy to live a “life of leisure”. But a lot of us are hard working and actually feel guilty because we aren’t bringing in capital even if staying at home is what our husbands want. Lastly, I do have my husband eat an occasional fish stick, in fact he is making us a lame dinner of sandwiches right now- however, I have made breakfast, lunch, dinner for the past 3 weeks straight and this week alone I also made him homemade granola for breakfast, cookies, cofee cake & dessert and I make sure his (our) laundry is always done. Is the house clean – no I have 3 kids.
Sorry there is no perfect woman. However, my advice to you is this, right before I met my husband I said to myself, I can offer a man this, this and that and you know what I better get that in return. If you want to be happy then do the same. But stop generalizing and viewing women as the enemy because you’ll never find happiness.
David on
November 10th, 2007 8:58 am
Separating from my wife of nearly twenty years was hard in every way but I just couldn’t put up with her sh*t any more. The first day she was gone I came home to an empty house which felt very sad, despite the fact that I knew, rationally, that I was better off without her.
But the next day when I woke up it felt like Xmas morning! I’m not kidding — no tension, no worry about what was coming down, just a feeling of anticipation, and — dare I say it — happiness.
And since she’s been gone I’ve had a great time. I no longer lose my temper with everyone, I have plenty of ***, and I can play the stereo, sleep in, do whatever the **** I please.
It’s cost me a bundle — a bit more than half my assets plus ongoing support payments — but at least I get some benefit from the money I earn now; when I was married I got absolutely nothing but stress and grief.
Obbop on
November 11th, 2007 6:10 am
From here on out, until the grass no longer grows and the rivers do not run, I will isolate my disgusting maleness from all that is female to the greatest extent possible.Maybe that will assist in assuaging the anger held by so many of the female gender.
Obbop on
November 11th, 2007 6:24 am
What a well-written essay!!!! Bravo!!!
Let the accolades swarm and multiply.
As one who considers himself to be at least a partial Alpha Male, allow little old me to toss in a caveat that ONLY applies to me.
Over the decades I have not attained some of the goals mentioned in the essay. One of the reasons for this has been the strong desire from an early age to avoid others who want control over me.
Bosses, politicians, bureaucrats, so many entities that want to control me, including females.
Living as a “social animal” it is impossible to avoid all control by others but it can be minimized.
However, sacrifices must be made.
Thus, no female companionship within a marriage scenario. Oh, sure, tried the live together routine when younger but gave up on that over 20 years ago and have huddled within the shanty alone since then. Alone but quite happy.
Did not follow the proverbial money trail since existing within the corporate structure held no appeal and, at times, the mere thought of being a corporate droid led to repulsive dread of “being a team player” within the constructs of BIG business.
What I write of applies only to me, my psyche, my persona. Assuredly there are Alpha Males who fit right into “the scheme of things.”
But, to be what I am, outside the norm, free-thinking and happier than average from my viewpoint, some sacrifices had to be made.
Obbop on
November 11th, 2007 6:25 am
As compared with friendly castration?
Anarchiste on
November 11th, 2007 8:47 am
Those , hmm, well,… “ladies” (ahem!) are pretty sick in the head. Preying mantis, black widow , rattlesnake, scorpion: make you choice of insect to describe them. Whatever word fits them best, they only inspire the deepest repulsion. Fifty years ago, they would have all been put in an asylum for the insane, but now they run free. What a shame. Perhaps because they have multiplied into hundreds of millions. Those wymyn are defective, seriously.
James on
November 11th, 2007 1:01 pm
I have a hunch Lilith is an overweight teenage virgin. I was shocked by how ****** and disgusting her email was. I don’t know how you read these things on a daily basis.
I like how the last email justifies any wrong women by saying men deserve it. It’s funny how she first says how you should “stop moaning” but then goes on to prove why you should never stop! Women like her exist and men need to know that. It’s interesting the use of shame tactics.
Anarchiste on
November 11th, 2007 1:30 pm
Nice thoughts. but things have gone too far. We are “over the edge” now and there’s no backpedalling: our society is in free fall.
The only solution I can see is to let things go to their logical end. And when the dust settles and this madness is over because hatred ran out of fuel, maybe we can pick up the scarce remains of civilization and try to rebuild a new one.
In the meantime, try to enjoy life as much as you can and don’t worry about the future: the future is no longer ours to control. Que sera sera.
I think that the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965, the immigration reform act of the Great Society that ended preferences for Northern European immigrants, would have never passed if the 19th Amendment was not ratified. As LBJ or JFK would have never been elected president, America would have stayed a white-black country with stable demographics (i.e., close to 90% White). If only White men could vote, the majority of them would not have voted for their own demographic displacement.
Silvio on
November 12th, 2007 7:06 am
That was really disgusting. I always say to all my mates, women don’t like men, period. They see us as bad human beings that should be vanished of the earth. They marry to have children, not because they like us.
I really believe that feminazism already won the war.
Curiepoint on
November 12th, 2007 8:37 am
There is nothing in any of these emails that is anything new. I am betting this is so for the balance of them that you have received. What an utter black hole of original thought:
Men have messed up the world.
Men are being paid back.
Men are only good for one or two things.
Men are inferior.
All the same **** that would land a man in prison on charges of hate speech should we ever say it aloud.
And yet, somehow these marginal human beings think that all of this rhetoric will work. Amazing.
The bottom line is that even a slave has a soul, and whether it’s pure or bathed in the black blood of the innocent, the slave will be true to his soul. They do not count upon outside agencies to fight for them. They know that nobody is coming. The only defense they have is the truth, and the fact that they will fight to defend their souls.
We men of the Western world know the same exists for us. Hence, we realize that we are slaves. But, we also realize that our freedom is in our hands, and will be gained the same way any slave is freed:
Sacrifice, Courage, Defiance, and open rejection of the status quo. The fight will not be easy, nor will there be change possible in our lifetimes.
We fight you, just the same.
Enjoy the view from your ivory tower. Lord it over us defective genetic mutations. Keep laughing, ladies. You have your over-blown egos and the arm of (in)justice on your side.
Time is ours.
andy on
November 13th, 2007 8:45 am
Sounds like sour grapes to me, as the marriage strike really starts to bite and increasing numbers of men simply refuse to play the game any more I think you can expect a lot more of this.
andy on
November 13th, 2007 8:52 am
To my way of thinking being a man means living your life the way that you want to, so any time that some one levels one of these accusations against you just smile, nod and say “yeah and i’m still going to/not going to do it” (delete as applicable whatever it may be) once you have resolved to not let a woman have power over you – she doesn’t.
ellen on
November 13th, 2007 5:02 pm
that is way too excessive suit settlement, it’s more than double the original cost of the wedding flowers.
Silvio on
November 14th, 2007 9:50 am
My question is: Why the HELL did he marry?
I can’t believe that men nowadays still insists in this journey of hell and despair.
Well, in fact i know why:
1- She refuses to give ***
2- She offers quality *** so you end up tied by her ******
3- She threats to leave you
4- She starts complaining a lot
5- She starts to look at other men, or give hints that there’s other men around
6- You cant live without her, because you are too weak, so you give up to her wishes
The Mighty Boom on
November 14th, 2007 10:00 am
Just love the catch phrase ‘you can’t always Glatt what you want.’
Poor little Elena. Typically a suit like this would only reward cost (of flowers) and attorneys’ fees. There would be no punitive damages. Get a life Elena. Move along and have a nice life…..if you can.
Good luck David.
Wingfella on
November 16th, 2007 6:47 am
I guess this is where the world is heading, but I’m not sure it’s all that absolute.
Tom Lemon on
November 16th, 2007 4:29 pm
I spent many years debating women on websites on these same topics. I came away literally shocked (and I don’t shock easily) by the sheer dishonesty and scumbag behavior of women. All of them. Never once found one who would actually fess up to the problems.
I’ve tried talking to women friends, sisters, and even mom (not the wife, of course, because that would land me in divorce court) In EVERY SINGLE CASE there was absolute, unwavering refusal to EVEN CONSIDER ONE BIT OF IT.
I know a woman with 4 grown sons. Two of her sons got ****** by their wives in divorce court, leading to terrible results for the grandchildren. This woman had seen her sons and grandkids get ****** badly by her daughter-in-laws. Yet when I asked her the simplest question “Hey, don’t you see that there is a dark problem with feminism, and it’s hurting innocents?” she absolutely and angrily refused to listen to me.
My conclusion…women will never fix this problem without being faced by utter ruin. Never. They will deny it right up until the end, right up until they are faced with total social collapse, and even then they will refuse to face their issues. Women are physically and genetically incapable of facing these issues honestly.
Guys, don’t look for any relief soon. Just avoid marriage at all costs, go start a software company or climb mountains. Be a generation of single men, refusing to deal with the generation of selfish women. That is the only sane response. Will it cause social chaos? Yup. But that’s not your problem.
My 2 cents…
jazzygc on
November 17th, 2007 10:40 am
I agree with an earlier posting that the law of the land (federal law) should require not only a pre-nup before marriage, but also that the pre-nup must identify and disclose all assets and debts that each party is bringing into the marriage including income streams from trusts, etc. that exist before the marriage.
These income streams that are in place before the marriage occurs do not become community property, even if they are received after the marriage occurs. If a person commits fraud by not disclosing, then the offended party receives 100% (not 50%) of all assets acquired after the marriage (normally community property) in the case of divorce. These agreements must be iron-clad meaning a judge is powerless to nullify, but can only adjudicate under the terms of the agreement.
This will help both women and men and will greatly reduce the activities occuring in divorce courts today.
Mikey on
November 18th, 2007 5:22 pm
Watch out for a divorce after buying a new home. It seems that after an “upgrade” to a larger more expensive home, men are at their most vulnerable.
Im not arguing that. But if the guy really is a slap happy ****, no good can come from that relationship. Just like no good can come from a deceitful ***** using something like this to get even.
Sick. Just, sick.
Women like that deserve to be taken out back and shot.
Was this really the way it looked? It looks like a bomb went off in there! There’s literally nowhere to walk and the kitchen is nonfunctional as is. I can understand a place being moderately or even substantially cluttered (”lived in” is the polite phrase) as long as it isn’t impairing the lives and health of the occupants. But messes like this are clearly interfering with critical facilities (you can’t get to the sink, for example) takes a long time to accumulate, are very expensive in lost utility and excessive materials, and must have actively interfered with the ability to just exist in the home.
Some people may be time-limited or distracted and eventually feel too overwhelmed to clean it up (they don’t know where to start–as amazing as that sounds), but if she was refusing to clean up the home and refusing to help you then it came to a point where her behavior became a health threat to both of you. It indicates she didn’t care about the environment or it’s occupants, was actively abusing you, or had other distracting issues.
I see the picture and immediately have questions: What was she doing with her time? Why didn’t she care about this, or you, or herself? Why was she so irresponsible or abusive to you? Why was she so hostile to assistance (when most similarly placed people would beg for and greatly welcome help and relief)? But also you were an occupant in this environment. Was she preventing (distracting/fighting) you from cleaning things, or was your time occupied with tasks (a job) which prevented you from engaging in sufficient maintenance? Or was her personality, behavior, and personal environment so defective that living with her became a mental or physical health hazard?
I’m sorry your marriage ended. If your spouse was uncooperative, hostile/abusive to, or disregarding of your health and safety your divorce and expelling her from your life was naturally obligatory. I wish your life be serene, prosperous, healthy, happy, and long. (And I hope her life goes well too.)
justin on
November 23rd, 2007 12:08 pm
I am married and hating it! I live with my wife and her son and her mother they both don’t work and I pay all the bills and clean the house. I am afraid to get a divorce, but life now is horrible. Please I need some advice!
RussellMania on
November 24th, 2007 11:46 am
I wonder how long this marriage will last? If she’s going to sue over something as trivial as a color schematic of flowers, (who ******* pays $30 grand for flowers anyways?), I don’t even wonder when a real problem hits her marriage.
I am questioning the intelligence of the groom. How can anyone be that p-whipped?
Silvio on
November 24th, 2007 1:28 pm
Actually, millions and millions men must buy the testicle necklace. That’s what i see everywhere. Women have their men by the ***** in almost every aspect of life that envolves man-woman.
Lindsay on
November 24th, 2007 9:12 pm
Wow… How ridiculous! It’s women like this that make me ashamed to be one at times. If one must marry what ever happened to eloping?
Luna on
November 25th, 2007 10:54 am
I myself am firmly against plastic surgery. Surely appearance is not everything? But I’d like to point out that not all women do this, like the article suggests, as well as attempts to make one look more attractive are based on natural human instincts – the prettiest and strongest come out on top. But because humanity has evolved to include brains and personality into the chart, one should care less about beauty and strength, and more about love, personality, and knowledge.
High heels – why wear them? I hate them, they make my feet heart, and they’re difficult to balance on. Useless.
Makeup – again, pointless. Who cares? Animals had to be tested for – you to have it – think, you could be helping thousands of dying lives by NOT wearing make-up. Cover-up, maybe, if you are suffering from acne that’s incredibly dramatic, but the best treatment for acne is not make-up but medicine, so still useless.
Hair – actually, some women do have naturally think, beautiful hair. My hair’s naturally think. It’s all naturally dirty mucky blond – but I’m not dying it anytime soon 9although women aren’t the ONLY ones dying their hair – that’s a unisex beautifying attempt).
Teeth – actually, whitening your teeth with white strips is a health benefit. Wearing grills or pearlies is faking it.
Boobs – I naturally have big boobs. And it’s a hassle – there’s this guy who kept on trying to touch them, and it’s an object of constant playful teasing from my friends which, while it might have been funny at first, is now rather annoying. Big boobs serve no purpose. BOOBS, on the other hand, supply milk for babies.
There. Semi-rant over.
Luna on
November 25th, 2007 11:11 am
I almost completely agree with ncr. Sometimes, love just doesn’t work. it’s not that she’s not happy, it’s that as time has gone by, she realized that he isn’t… there’s a certain quality every human looks for in love. sometimes it fades away, sometimes it remains. As I read through this entire article I noticed there is no mention of people like my mother, who has remained happily married to my father. In fact, my FATHER was the one who divorced a woman before he married my mother, and my mother never married anyone but him. They are both still in love after 34 years of marriage – not all women are out to steal your money. Actually, when I was younger and my mother was working along with my father, my mother earning not too much less than him, every time one of them bought something, I was to thank my father. Why? He only did it half the time. Every time something good happened to the family financially,. even if my mother achieved it, I was to thank my father or he’d be upset. Why? He was looking for a thank you that was not deserved.
I do not hate my father. I love him, and my mother. I just want to point out that it’s not always the woman’s fault, it’s not always the man’s fault, and not every couple divorces.
Bizaker on
November 28th, 2007 8:14 am
I left my wife because I lost myself as so many men do. And the biggest thing i’ve noticed from my married friends now after I split with my wife is that they’re as equally un-happy as I was. Everyone had something to complain about. Some complained in jest and some complained for real which made so glad I was out of the trap. And as so many single men have told me whom were married once earlier in their lives is “I learned that I don’t need someone to be happy, and to be happy with myself.” Now im not suggesting there is nothing to be gotten out of a relationship but I dont think being trapped in marriage is neccessary anymore. Especially when the concequences are so much to the man when they split.
I’d think with the legal troubles their son is about to have, this was an awesomely brilliant way to protect half their assets.
Sharon on
November 29th, 2007 3:33 pm
So guys with all this women bashing going on here, what is a woman supposed to do if she gives her hubby all the *** he wants from her and he still does not live up to his part of the bargain? He still does nothing to make her happy? Seems like a double standard with all you men out there.
CSavage on
November 29th, 2007 8:00 pm
This site is soooo stereotypical. What about the wife who gave 20 years and thought that their husband walked on water? I did instigate the divorce after finding the so-called “love-of-my-life” in bed with the another piece of garbage after 20 years of marriage. After he turned 45 he decided he had missed out on life and that I should sit in the wings and wait until he got it all out of his system. No thanks…..too many diseases to catch from his fun and a slap in the face to my self-esteem. I left with my clothes and the dogs. Am I the scum-of-the-earth? I am a professional and could make my own living, but needed my pride to remain intact. So, he got the house, the furniture and everything else. We aren’t all selfish demons. Some of us are victims too….don’t forget that.
I’ve been alone for 5 years now and will not go down the marriage path again. I think that everyone is capable of selfish behavior and I don’t care to be in the wake of such selfishness.
Sharon on
November 30th, 2007 6:02 am
It all goes back to the old saying, “Do unto others that you would have them do unto you.” Treat everyone you come in contact with respect and kindness. And if you can make someones day along the way, without expecting anything in return, you will become a hero in their eyes. People take notice of sincere acts of caring and kindness. Eventually, you will meet the person who will truly love you for the wonderful person that you are and they will want to fulfill all of your wants, needs and desires. However, we all go through a few rotten apples before we find that perfect match. Don’t hate All women just because of one woman who may have hurt you in the past. Just don’t have anything to do with that particular person anymore, and give the rest a fighting chance. Not everyone is out to get you. Except maybe the ones whom you have gone out of your way to hurt. And you guys are just way too obsessed with having ***. There is more to life than just your ability to relieve yourself by using someone else’s body.
Sharon on
November 30th, 2007 6:34 am
I think that guys like this have way to much time on their hands to sit and say all this **** about women. Not all women are like what he describes. Just like, not all men are bad. However, guys like this (and the majority on this website) are acting like spoiled brats not getting their way. They need to grow up and start acting like mature adults instead of acting like whinny babies.
DeeDee on
November 30th, 2007 8:28 pm
My oh my, what treasures your website is full of! If it weren’t for this website, I’d never have learned so many idiotic generalizations about women.
Maybe things are different in the city. I’m from the country, and relations between men and women are quite a bit different than what y’all describe.
Where I’m from (Missouri), most bachelors want a wife. Why? Well, who else is going to skin the deer you shoot during rifle season, cut it into reasonably sized hunks, and feed the family for the entire winter off measly Bambi? Who else gives hay to the cows in -10 degree weather while you’re off at your “oh so stressful” office job, sitting on your butt in a nicely heated building? My stay-at-home mother sure didn’t spend her days playing with the baby, and she still managed to have dinner on the table at 5:30 when Dad walked through the door.
It’s not about how intelligent, how attractive, how whatever you are. It’s about maturity and handling what life throws out you. Out in the country, we’re still raised right-by our mamas.
Exploited on
December 1st, 2007 9:54 am
I think these broads summed up how they truly think, even though they claimed it was something else. They use men to fulfill there needs, end of story. If they happen to need money, they go searching for a rich guy.
Notice how there insult is ‘useless’, if they can’t use us for something our lives have no value.
‘Don’t judge a women on how she treats people she needs, but on how she treats people she doesn’t need’. It’s totally true, most women treat people who cannot serve her like ****, which is how she will treat you once her needs change.
While I’m not bitter or angry at women, I do enjoy the philosophy of questioning the status quo, in that why exactly am I going to marry women? I don’t see men here bashing women, I see them questioning why would we want to get or stay married.
Most people get married because it is the norm. **** the norm, that’s how sheep think. Women know marriage is a sweet scam, and we are the auditors figuring out we are getting screwed, most of the time. Notice how nasty people get when you figure out there scamming, and start asking questions? This is what we just witnessed.
Exploited on
December 1st, 2007 10:18 am
I prefer to give memories, like a cruise or vacation, **** giving gold and silver. Gold and silver is like handing over a sack of money she will cash in when you break up, laughing all the way to the bank.Memories are the best gift. They are fun as hell at the time, gives her something to brag about to her friends, and becomes a painful reminder of how awesome you were, after she cheats on you and the relationship ends.
Memories, the greatest gift!
petra howie on
December 1st, 2007 5:48 pm
I ran across this website while doing some research on a book (”men who won’t commit”) and i think you are doing a great disservice here by trying to give a voice to and encourage all the negative stereotypes that some men and women have about one another, as well as marriage and relationships in general. all of you sound either bitter or downright mean – and who wants to be with someone like that? maybe when you selected that wife you can’t stand anymore, you chose her for less than amicable reasons yourself? there are many good women out there who couldn’t care less about how much income a man “provides” (and here is a wakeup call: most of us divorced moms make our way through life and don’t have some man’s income to “fall back on”- but of course you bitterlings wouldn’t know about that!)- we just want a good, faithful, smart, kind and **** man who is crazy about us! a lot of you men have no clue and you are missing out on the best things in life – and love is certainly one of the best!
Ulrich on
December 1st, 2007 8:24 pm
Regarding the update on the Hogan divorce, there seems to be a much more obvious explanation. If Linda was looking to cash out of the marriage with the largest expected payout, now is the best time. A lawsuit might take a big chunk out of “her” half.
Talk about lousy timing for the Hulk. After he loses half his assets, he’s going to get stuck paying alimony, legal costs for his son’s criminal case, legal costs for divorce, and legal costs for a civil suit. The real kicker is that if his son doesn’t hit 18 before this stuff works it’s way through the courts, he’ll be paying for the mistakes made by a son he won’t have custody over, and probably paying child support on top of it.
Nora on
December 5th, 2007 1:45 am
Not all women are bad. Admitting that is the first step.
Not all women are crazy feminists, but most normal people agree that women and men should be equal.
And most important, not all women are like the ones you had bad experiences with.
Women are just people. There’s no hive mind, no secret plot to own every pair of testicles. Remember that men can be controlling, manipulative, and cruel just as easily as any woman, and that some of them are.
I know I’m not changing any minds, but this has been bugging me for a while and I need closure.
Brad on
December 6th, 2007 5:58 pm
To Justin: Just get the divorce. I assure you life won’t be more miserable than being married. Even if you still have to pay the bills, you wont have to deal with the everyday hell that is marriage. Experience talking here, I’m finally divorced and my son and I live much happier now (although he lives with her mother, we’ve become really close lately and I’m thinking of going for the custody)
leftyf on
December 6th, 2007 7:55 pm
Joel
Like the girl in the American Express Commercial
Yes, Yes, and Yes!
You speak the truth.
And guys, it’s true…women only want what is fair…and what they have earned..you know their half.
And as much of your half as they can get…for a minimum of 18 years.
The fair part ? The jury’s still out on that one…
I speak from experience.
leftyf on
December 6th, 2007 8:04 pm
Saddened Heart
So, we are to assume that you are getting nothing out of this relationship?
leftyf on
December 6th, 2007 8:28 pm
Tell me guys…any of you ever heard this one?
Mi Mi Mi…going into shrill screaming female voice:
MY GAWD HOW YOU HAVE CHANGED!!
Changed? Me? Probably…but, ya know it takes women like that to make men like me. I wasn’t born like this… you molded me into the man you see here today.
Happy now? I’ve become everything you said you never wanted…and I had all the help in the world.
And, remember boys…this is my personal fave, “Do the right thing, set me free .
A woman who loves men on
December 7th, 2007 7:59 am
I wonder how these people fail to see it. We are living in the last days of Rome. Our society, Western civilization, is crumbling as its foundation upon which all our material comforts were built- the patriarchal, monogamous family unit – is torn apart.
The only thing that would fix it would be a society wide return to Victorian values and modesty. Bring back that concept of honor – chastity for women and bravery for men. Yes, that means some (many) people would fall into the dishonorable category but otherwise we will continue to hold bad behavior up as the model. The double standard there existed because the natural differences inherent in men and women. It is not insulting for example to call a man a sl-t or a woman a coward. Dividing women into the chaste and the dishonorable (and men into courageous vs dishonorable) in a public manner where society held people accountable for their actions and treated them in accordance with how they behaved helped stabilize public life. Hedonism is generally not fulfilling in the long run.
I realize there is about zero possibility of this happening so the spiral continues to wind downward. Best of luck.
OzCynic on
December 7th, 2007 2:26 pm
Hee hee, ho boy DO I RELATE TO THAT LOT ABOVE! I have been put through it on every level except the Greenie Hypocrite. Those I have not had the dubious pleasure of observing at close range (though Kari Byron on Mythbusters is certainly living up to my distant observations that chicks who are Greenies are usually very boastful about how sadistic and cruel they are) , but I can work out what to buy for them: A NICE JUICY STEAK!
Cooked medium RARE…my favourite.
Curiepoint on
December 9th, 2007 12:41 am
Well Sharon, I would agree with you except that your premise is based upon a strawman arguement as to how men think and believe. You say that we should get over our hurts and ********-overs and give others a chance because, as you imply, “Not all women are like that”. I would say that not all people are like that. There are lots of despicable women out there, and a lot of despicable men. It’s just a fact of life. We men can live with that, and often do regardless of the gender of those that visit outrageous behavior upon us. After all, who wants to go through life feeling hurt and betrayed?
The main fallacy is that you attribute our attitudes to our being directly hurt by women, and nothing more. While all of us probably have had this misfortune, our attitudes are based also on our observance of the world around us. What happens to our brothers, fathers, collegues and friends also colors our world-view. So too does a keen observance of how the institutions of law, marriage, and relationships are envisioned and deployed amongst society. Most marriages are dissolved at the behest of women who feel justified through their sense of entitlement to personal satisfaction. Laws are enacted and enforced on a daily basis that automatically criminialize or at least marginalize men. Relationships…well, it wasn’t a man that derived the standard of the-personal-is-the-political.
Contrary to what you may believe, we men can and do make our personal assessments based upon experience, observation, and provable knowledge. It isn’t all about our feelings being hurt. It is all a matter of survival. We men may be taking a dim view of what life serves up in intimate involvement, but then again we will survive more or less intact as a result. You can’t lose if you don’t play a rigged game, and you can win by playing a game of one’s own choosing.
As far as *** being a release valve, it is often true that this is a perceived effect, and that goes for women as well as men. But, if it were strictly that and nothing more, we could just as easily rub one out on our own, or bring in a hired gun to take care of it for us, and be perfectly content with this. That is to say, there would be no need for the anger and resentment that we feel. The sense of intimacy and love is highly prized amongst us poor troglodyte men despite what you may believe our motivations to be. When that is rendered down into a tool to manipulate us into doing something that you want, or reduced to the proportions of it being one more unpleasant duty to perform, it isn’t us men who are devaluing intimacy, it’s women; specifically, it’s wives.
We don’t turn our backs on women as a whole. We look to other places where women have no interest in competing with us on personal terrain. We seek women who will respond favorably to those acts of kindness genuinely offered without thinking it a sign of dishonesty or wimpishness. Alternatively, we live our own lives according to our needs first, and others’ second without the diminishing return that is marriage and relationship. Once again, we will keep ourselves alive and intact whichever way we choose to go.
Perhaps it’s the plain fact that we men actually do have choices that bothers you more than our so-called negativity?
Steve Payne on
December 9th, 2007 7:30 am
Loved the gifts suited for all types can’t wait to order from the Christmas catalogue.
Amber on
December 12th, 2007 5:38 am
I don’t really have any criticisms about the article. If studies have shown it’s the case women choose different men when they’re on or off birth control, so be it.
In response to an earlier comment, yes, birth control increases the risk of breast cancer (esp. for the older gals who smoke). I, along with many other women, wish this wasn’t the case. To be honest, birth control hasn’t been liberating at all, not for me anyway. I’ll save you the personal details, but birth control does more than alter our selection of men and keep us from becoming preggers. For instance, birth control causes nausea, vomiting, weight gain (a huge issue for women and their men), vaginal dryness (another issue), depression (don’t get me started on that relationship killer), spotting of blood, and *DRUM ROLL* an over decrease in *** drive. That’s just to name a few, however. What about those of us, like me, who need to be on birth control for reasons beyond mere contraception? Well, we’re **** up a creek and bound to be single because our depressed, overweight asses don’t want to have ***. Interesting that a little pill that was supposed to liberate women sexually has cause so many *** related issues.
I’m only 21, and I’ve been on birth control for 7 years because of personal problems. However, I’ve stopped taking them to save my relationship. Granted, things are going to suck for me, but at least my boyfriend will get more action. More action = happier boyfriend. He’ll just have to be okay with wearing *******.
One last comment — Rich, we can all be replaced.
Smithe on
December 14th, 2007 11:31 am
Prooves that there are no legal rights for a man in marriage, so why have it at all? Oh that’s right, marriage is an institution, like for the insane.
Smithe on
December 14th, 2007 11:39 am
Good comment Andy. The more men realize they have no legal recourse in marriage, the less of them that will get married, and the less that the corrupt courts and child support services agency will have as “alleged” lying sack of garbage clients to help them.
Smithe on
December 14th, 2007 11:43 am
Ah…women and “security” go hand in hand, and they still demand it regardless of feminism, and are willing outright to give up everything for it.
Amber on
December 14th, 2007 11:59 am
I think we’re missing the underlying issue here. Did anyone ever stop to think that people are getting married without truly being “in love”? First of all, if you’re unhappy in a relationship, you don’t really love the person. If you can’t find happiness on your own, you don’t love yourself… you’re living in despair (hell on Earth). Self-love is the foundation of every kind of love there is. So, it seems many of the issues are a product of self-hate, which women are so obviously and annoyingly guilty of.
Secondly, habit is a problem that ruins relationships. Do the same damn thing over and over again, you’ll get bored. Worst of all, you’ll start taking the person/people you love for granted. What’s more, the kind of “love” we swear to have for each other forever, isn’t the kind of love you want to swear by at all. Erotic (spontaneous) love fades because we “love” the person based on qualities that aren’t lasting. Try loving the person based on their soul (if people even believe there are such things anymore).
Thirdly, I will begrudgingly (only because I’m a woman and I have an obvious bias) admit that women don’t seem to hold loyalty and faithfulness as dear to their hearts as men, which is incredibly ironic. Ironic because as women, we expect our significant others to be faithful through and through. So much as ogle another woman and the accusations start flying… we’re so damn embarrassingly jealous it makes me sick. As soon as our love lives are consumed with habit or as soon as we being to see “he isn’t the man we fell in love with,” we’re gone. Where’s the loyalty, ladies? Women who commit this act of disloyalty are unethical… if you define being ethical as being virtuous, that is. Being a faithful person, being a loyal person makes you virtuous. Seriously, if you think what I’m about to say is stupid for any reason, there’s something wrong with you — Being faithful is important. DON’T just get up and leave the people in your life behind just because you FEEL a different way. It’s completely selfish if you think that’s an okay thing to do. As was said before, you are responsible for your own happiness
Curiepoint on
December 18th, 2007 5:04 pm
Nobody ever remains the exact same person they were before the marriage after the wedding takes place. As far as really knowing someone before you marry them, what if the intent was to deceive all along? There are lots of people out there who enter into marriage and relationships with sublimated ulterior motives. Most ugliness doesn’t come out until it’s too late, or the ugliness doesn’t start until the marriage takes the least little undelightful turn, which is the way of all life.
And, how much time should anyone allot to “getting to know someone” before the marriage? Two years? Three? Twenty-Five? It doesn’t matter. A person can be wholesome and good and kind when the couple start off with very little, but turn into crazed harpies once the assets start piling up.
The only trust anyone should “grant” anyone else in a marriage is the trust that they will live up to the oaths of Love, Honor, and Cherish. Any other issues of trust are off the table, and are earned, not granted. Hence, the pre-nup.
Fred on
December 22nd, 2007 2:39 pm
I was married for 24 years. My wife had affairs, and flaunted them,drunk all of the time, would not work. When I finally filed for divorce, the best deal I could get was: keep half of my assets, and now have to pay her a large marital punishment tax for 10 years. Now she can have her boyfriends, not work full time, and party all she wants…and I have to pay for it all. Something is wrong with this country. I do not EVER want to marry again. In my case, one is the happiest number.
Fred on
December 23rd, 2007 4:38 pm
Great advice. Wish I had read this before my divorce. I was taken to the cleaners. Women can be VERY evil. During my divorce, our kids did not matter to her one bit. All she wanted was the house, retirement, alimony, MONEY, money, and more money. She did not care how she got it, who she hurt in the process, even our kids. Selfishness and narcissism ruled her life. I was married to a monster for 24 years and didn’t even know it. What a wake up call.
Katie on
December 28th, 2007 3:22 pm
Hmmmm…. very interesting indeed.
Feminism, in its infancy and by its very definition, is not supposed to make females better than males. It is supposed to offer “Equal protection of rights under Law”.
However, in the last two decades, feminism has become exactly the opposite of such ideals and has instead turned to make boys into girls – because aggressive behavior is not seemed to be “good for society”.
It is a bunch of hogwash.
I am a single mother of two children and trust me when I tell you I did not plan for it to be that way. The fault did lay with me – but not because of nagging or assuming everything should be about me. It was quite the opposite, everything was about him. I stayed with him through four affairs. I had never cheated on him once. I stayed with him after he single handedly put us into 70,000 dollars in debt (of course all in my name). I stayed and I stayed, until one day I looked at my beautiful daughters and thought to myself, “I do not want them to think that this is the way that they are supposed to be treated. I do not want them growing up thinking that women should just be something that cooks and cleans and occassionally gives it up.”
I have been single for 6 years now.
I do not believe that I am better than a man or that my feelings outweigh any opinion that they may have. But I do know what I will and will not tolerate in a partner. Show one of those behaviors and most likely you will not be welcomed back into my life.
Does this make me “princess-y”? I do not think so. I know there are great guys out there who have respect for me as a woman and would not resort to the vile acts that I have already allowed myself to go through. However, I also know that I am not ready to allow myself to let one of these guys into my life, so it is best to just NOT begin a committed relationship which only ends in MY acting like a crazy woman.
For the record, when someone is communicating with you, you are supposed to put yourself in their shoes and attempt to understand their feelings and needs. But when you communicate back to them, they are supposed to do the same for you. It is a two way street and anyone, male or female, who does not do this is a waste of time.
Luna on
December 28th, 2007 5:28 pm
All right. I see your point.
But putting the blame on entire gender? No. No. You say that wars happened after women got their rights?
Well, excuse me, but wars happened BEFORE women got their rights, as well. Civil War? Revolutionary War? What happened to those, are they non-existent? Later wars happened NOT because of women getting rights, but because of increases in technology, laws that no one liked being passed, and other countries’ personal issues. Don’t go putting all the blame on one ***. I’ve known good and bad people, on both sexes. My father is a wonderful man, my mother is a wonderful woman. Life without feminism? Think ‘pre-civil war’ with technology. Not so great, and morally wrong. It’ll be slavery all over again.
Curiepoint on
December 29th, 2007 5:18 am
No, but more than 50% do divorce.
Of those, it’s the wife who files 2/3 of the time.
Of those, it’s under the aegis of No Fault”. That is to say: “He doesn’t thrill and delight me like the trained seal he is. I’m bored Wah Wah Wah…”
They don’t start off hating the husband, but with some cajolling from her lawyer, she will work up a good mad at him, and then parlay that into unspeakable horrors and degradations perpetrated at his hands.
Since it is more and more legal and acceptable for a wife to murder her husband outright, maybe she can just cut out the middle-man and instead of buying a lawyer, she can just purchase ammo and a weapon.
Equal on
December 29th, 2007 6:37 pm
Women have an invisible allegiance to their sisterhood that guys don’t have. Which I say if we did have, it would help.
Kingblaze on
December 29th, 2007 11:44 pm
Everything I’ve seen here completely confirms what I have always seen, noticed, and felt: Marriage is really overrated. Sure, there is nothing wrong with it, per se, but it should not be considered a one way ticket to happiness.
I’m single, and LOVING IT! I have *** when I want to (most of the time at least), and I don’t need to put a ring on anybody’s finger to get it. Everyone I know that is married is not exactly happy… in fact, I’m sleeping with a married woman right now. All I really want to say is that if you can get companionship, ***, and genuine good times with somebody (or several people), don’t rush into living with someone. You are really missing out on all the fine women out there who might be even better than what you are working with. Of course, if you truly find that “one”, than by all means marry her. But don’t let society tell you that you should get married as soon as possible. Enjoy life to the fullest, and when you have TRULY worn out your ******/playa needs, then get that wife.
Until then, I will enjoy my freedom and fornicate without commitment.
Sable Thorne on
January 1st, 2008 10:08 pm
Is it any wonder that all of the most revered teachers and spiritual guides of the ancient world (i.e. Jesus Christ, Aristotle, etc) were such staunch advocates for a patriarchal societal structure? It seems that women (womyn?) lack the cognitive capabilities necessary for an objective viewpoint. Hell, I personally believe that it’s only because of the male capability to see things objectively in the first place that feminism has been as successful as it has. I also believe, however, that the repulsive gynocracy of the current age will be short lived.
Sad on
January 2nd, 2008 12:08 pm
In no way do our differences make one *** superior to the other — only different. Fortunately, God also made us intelligent enough to figure out and understand our environment, which includes the opposite *** — IF we choose to. The capability is there. It’s the desire that seems to be lacking.
I’m the mother of two teenage boys and have been in a loveless marriage for 18 years. Sure, I could complain and trash my husband for the many long years of neglect, loneliness, disappointment and despair; I could let bitterness take hold, poison my life and tear my family apart. But, compassion and understanding are a much healthier choice for ALL concerned. IT ISN’T EASY, but it works, and we’re all better off for it. Again, it’s a CHOICE.
Life is rarely fair and usually doesn’t turn out like we hope. But, we only trash ourselves when we trash others. Instead of criticizing each other for our obvious and largely innate differences, why not take the higher ground and try to understand and accept each other — look for things to appreciate about each other instead of things to complain about. Much of our reality is simply a matter of perception. When you change what you look at, what you’re looking at changes. Try it. You might be surprised.
No, it won’t make things perfect. Nothing’s perfect. But, it will make it better — maybe MUCH better — or, as in my case, at least tolerable for now. When our kids are grown, my husband and I will part ways — but hopefully as friends. And, I hope that I will then be able to find a more suitable man one who is compassionate and understanding.
Graeme on
January 2nd, 2008 6:18 pm
Graeme
I have to say that being married seemed all very nice at the start , but I have concluded that women seem to want to control your every movement , I’ll never do it again.
Vic on
January 3rd, 2008 7:03 pm
I was horrified to read this. I have known other women like this and I can not understand how nice guys stay with such women. Yet women who have a good heart and are decent seem to have either no luck at all or end up with total asses like one of my last bfs. He was controlling and verbally abussive. My friends were over-joyed once I dropped him.
In a truly fair world, the decent and good-natured men and women would end up together and the lying, cheating “sacks of skin” (males and females) would end up together and battle each other out.
I think that there should be prenups to protect both and only split things that they have both contributed to. I earn my own money and do not need anyone to take care of me. A marriage is supposed to be about 2 people who want to share a life together. Maybe I am looking at this in an idealistic manner, but I guess I still have hope even after several failed relationships. As my mother says, as long as there is life, there is hope.
SHARON on
January 4th, 2008 7:23 am
A lot of guys have so much pent up negativity towards women, and i’m not sure exactly why? I think it boils down to each of these men having bad experiences with women at some point in their life, and never quite “getting over it.” So from there, all women are shunned as “unintelligent, manipulative wh*res.” When women have a bad experience with a man, yes, initially they may cry about it with their friends, but be sure that in the end, we are laughing about it………and then we simply move on.
loula on
January 4th, 2008 7:59 am
It truly saddens me that so many people have this terrible attitude towards marriage, but I can’t say that i’m not one of those people. I am one of those people who is thinking more and more, as I get older ( i am 26), that maybe marriage isn’t such a good idea. Now that women like myself are more independent, we realize that we don’t have to follow the social norm of settling in with a guy who goes out and makes the money while we stay home with the kids and be a subservient housewife. That idea sort of repulses me actually.
Now don’t be mistaken… I am not man-bashing here, trust me. I thoroughly enjoy the company of males, especially ones that i’m not in a ****** relationship with. I have just as much fun joking with the guys than I do as talking gossip/nonsense with the girls.
Its just seems as though men and women are making their way independently these days….and the need for women to “rely” on men is diminishing. And i think that is ok.
Just be assured that not all women are after men’s money…there are still women out there that have a sense of pride in themselves and would never do that. Women like me are just hoping that we find that person who respects us and enjoys our company.
Amanda on
January 4th, 2008 5:46 pm
Ok, while Gee Gee’s lack of punctuation issues did make it difficult to read, a lot of what she said was very much true.
We DO marry men because we love them, I am about to marry one now who does not help me around the house at all and does whatever he wants most of the time…going out with friends ’til 2am, drinking, etc. This bothers me a great deal. We actually argued about it (the cleaning issue) the other day because I do 3 loads of laundry per week, clean, vacuum and dust the entire house, do the dishes 98% of the time etc…He takes out the trash when it is halfway up the wall, and that’s about it. He leaves things around for me to clean up after him, as though I am his maid. So, do I nag when I want him to do the dishes or the laundry ONCE IN A WHILE? YES. I have to. I ask nicely once or twice but it gets very annoying. If I did not “nag” it would not get done. Example–I asked him to do the dishes on a Saturday (mind you, it’s just putting them in the dishwasher), and they did not get done until Thursday. Same when I asked about the laundry. So in the meantime, I am washing my own dishes because there are no clean ones, how is this fair. Am I wrong to “nag”? Would I have to nag if he had just done them instead of staying up watching tv until 2am or messing around on the computer??
So Bradley, is he not helping because it “doesn’t fit into his schedule”? I’d say it is more out of laziness.
If any of you could tell me WHY this happens I would love to know. My best friend is married with a baby and one on the way and is having some serious problems with this right now. He doesn’t help her with the child OR the house, and this is not okay.
We don’t think it is “all about us”, but we do feel unappreciated and taken for granted when all we do is take care of you and we get nothing in return. No real affection to speak of, no help…Why do you feel you can do whatever you want and we have to be okay with it? Marriage/relationships are a commitment and you are a team. Women do need affection just as men need ***. Oh, and trust me, if you would just help us out and be a little nicer, there would be much more of the latter. We would be happier and more energized, we wouldn’t have to nag, and everyone would be happy. I’ve even brought this point up and I don’t think it resonated. Why not? What is bad about this idea?
And to CuriePoint with the engagement/wedding argument as a way to make it seem as though marriage is all about the woman…PLEASE. That wedding stuff is tradition. The ring thing sucks for you guys but that’s the way it is. Sorry. We have to have kids, which involves 9 months and whole lot of pain. I think you win that one. Most women do NOT buy “several-thousand dollar wedding gowns”…Davids Bridal is where most middle class women go, dresses there are like $600. I plan to pay for mine myself, we will share other wedding costs. Guest list? Whatever, it’s not like that anymore. The wedding day is mostly about the bride but that is tradition as well. These days though, things are changing and women are being more flexible. Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of Bridezillas out there that want want want and I think that is gross. $30,000 for a wedding is a waste.
All in all, I think most women are nice girls like me that just want to be with the person they love and work as a team, start a family and just be HAPPY. Why do you think we are all out to get your money??!? Really? A rotten few I guess have spoiled the whole bunch in your eyes. Don’t generalize like this please.
And to Henry…American women are the fattest in the world? AMERICANS (including men) are quite fat in general. You guys really think you are God’s gift don’t you? Men are fat too. Geez.
So…apparently dataguy thinks that no compromises should be made in marriage. This guy clearly has never been married and/or never should be married because that just cannot work. People are very different and compromises HAVE to be made. On BOTH sides. Especially if you want to make the marriage work and have a family. If you don’t want to compromise I find that selfish and you definitely should be single.
Amanda on
January 4th, 2008 6:15 pm
OK.
Married men are actually happier and healthier than married women. I read this in a book I used in a family studies class I took. I’ve been looking for a reference but I can’t find one right now. If you need it, I’ll try harder. Women care about their husbands and pressure them into the colonoscopy and all that good stuff, and just to go the doctor in general, as men seem to be weary of doctors for some reason. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Men just have shorter lifespans. This is a global thing. Even in countries where they have no running water and women are taking care of the kids, walking miles to get clean water, etc., they still live longer. We just do.
Curiepoint:
Wow. I am sad for you. Anyway. Info above can be directed at you as well. I have NEVER seen an ad about testicular cancer or prostate cancer framed in terms of how it will affect women. Medical research is focused on women? WHAT? What about all the frikin ED research and the penile enlargement stuff that is not very important in comparison to breast cancer, ovarian and cervical cancer…Not to mention lung, colon..all the cancers and other diseases that strike both sexes.
I will argue that if men are “dying in droves” of prostate or testicular cancer, and by droves I assume you are saying more than women die of cervical, breast or ovarian cancer…that it is because they do not go to the doctor often enough…many seem to have an aversion. However, as I pointed out, many married women encourage this, which is why married men are happier and healthier. It is NOT for lack of research.
Also, I’m sure you know that until recently, heart attacks and heart disease symptoms and treatment were based on a male model. They assumed women’s symptoms were the same as men’s. They are not, and many women died as a result. My grandmother didn’t know what was wrong with her because “classic” heart attack/disease symptoms were actually male symptoms. The medical field is trying to rectify this situation by including more women in research…but wow. All I can say is wow…
Curiepoint wrote: “Women are the enemy”
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?
What did a woman do to you? Did your mom beat you? How can you generalize women this way and dislike them so much? I do not dislike men at all…and they really treated women badly for most of history.
I just don’t understand. Whoever said “your mothers would be ashamed of you” is absolutely correct.
Amanda on
January 4th, 2008 6:31 pm
Murder is murder. I don’t care what *** you are.
I agree with lucky that equal rights=equal responsibility…
I don’t know that men do 10X the time for the same crime, I would need some facts or a reference to that effect, but men commit violent crimes much more than women do. That is a fact.
If you want to complain about the criminal justice system being sexist, think about the women that were being violently abused by their male partners and ended up killing them in true SELF DEFENSE (I’m not talking the “I shot him while he was sleeping” ****, but the “he was coming at me with a knife and I shot him”) and ended up in prison for life. Fair. No.
Men kill their children too. Sometimes they **** them as well. We are just shocked more when women do it and society tends to search for answers because women are supposed to be nurturing and protective of their children. Besides, they went through the trouble of carrying them in their womb, giving birth and raising them. There is (usually) a very strong bond as a result. We can’t seem to understand why they would do something like this. Men are more distant from the process and, as I said before, are violent more often than women. We (society) can make sense of this a little easier. That is why there is this perceived “double standard”. That’s all. Chill out.
You guys have had the upper hand in this country since day 1, so I can understand why you feel like you have to defend that upper hand since we have started to level the playing field. Calm down, we aren’t trying to take over. You know we will never be able to. You will always be at least slightly “superior”….so don’t lose sleep over it.
Amanda on
January 4th, 2008 6:44 pm
Wow that was long and I’m tired. Point you seem to be making is that giving women the vote was a big mistake and we are all liberals that want war and bigger government/more subsidies and programs. Right?
Wrong. Many do. The Hillary crowd is all about it. But male democrats are the same way…It’s a party issue not a gender issue.
So, I will use this chance to say that I am a woman, and I support RON PAUL, who will end the war, reduce taxes if not end the income tax, get rid of useless federal programs/entire departments, etc. I’m sure many of you will say he’s crazy but I don’t care. I want a smaller government and less taxes. Oh and I’m also in favor of legalizing drugs and ending the drug war, and I’m against abortion and gun control! Really!
To the whole “feminism made us fat” idea… I just have to laugh. What about feminism makes single guys eat fast food like twice a day because they are too lazy to cook real food? My boyfriend does it and I’m ready and willing to cook GOOD healthier food. You guys just like meaty burgers. Even married men eat fast food during lunch breaks and on the way to work…so it’s not just that women aren’t cooking dinner anymore. Open your eyeballs.
Men AND women are fat these days. Why are you not getting that?
Maybe we should all be vegetarian like me and we wouldn’t have such a huge problem with this ;o)
Teebs on
January 5th, 2008 6:30 am
Firstly, I do commend you on your open, honest and brave stance in support of the many good, yet heavily battered, men that inhabit this planet.
I am a human male who works in the University of Guelph. As you may imagine the university is a prolific generator for mainstream hatred against all men also known as ‘Gender-Feminism’.
Here, a tune is played out that demonizes the human male as the cause of all that is dumb and wrong. The double-standardization, polarization and denigration of males vs. females is no longer even just insidious, it is actually now pop culture. Female students well out number male students here, as in most university institutions, yet the male students and tax payers pay for wimmyn’s resource centers, female physics graduate students are paid more than males, wimmyn student paper editors of the ‘Ontarion’ address men as “for those of you that aren’t wimmyn”. Wimmyn’s oppression and misery is apparently only caused by men, the evil of all life, especially white heterosexual males. Recently published in our Ontarion paper was “How to fist a ******”, obviously implying that a ***** is a **** organ and a wimmyn’s fist is the only approved methods of ****** intercourse. I’ll stop here because this all just gets very absurd and too nauseating for lunch hour.
Ironically, wimmyn have the nerve to cry out, “Where have all the good ones gone…?”.
Ladies, you castrated the very men that you cry for. Ladies, you lack logic and not mention compassion for half of the human race.
In light of the insane hatred directed to men and the innumerable male persecutions in divorce court and the general hatred driven against men everywhere I have had a vasectomy and choose my very few female friends oh so wisely. Using children as a source of income is not my function to deliver and my ***** and wallet stay with me.
Stephen on
January 5th, 2008 2:53 pm
Jim, force her to choose. The co-workers or you.If you bought a product that was defective then you would return it right? Well your relationship is defective and you need to fix it or toss it. I would never abide such shabby treatment. You deserve much better. I assure you that if you don’t stand up for yourself then she will happily wipe her muddy feet off on your face.
Stephen on
January 5th, 2008 3:40 pm
Justin, get it over with. Go for the divorce. I was physically and emotionally abused as a child by a sibling and it resulted in my becoming a doormat who sought everyone’s approval. It took years to recover. After I turned 30 I refused to put up with anymore of it. No one, I repeat, no one should tolerate abuse. Screw the kids and screw the world. If you’re being abused in your marriage get the hell out of it. The kids will be better off too. I’m beginning to ask some men on these blogs, “would you rather be miserable in a marriage or miserable outside of a marriage?” I’ll take misery outside of marriage. At least I have the option of discovering ways to make myself happy. But you’ll never be happy reporting to “the warden” every day.
Stephen on
January 5th, 2008 6:19 pm
Please stop the shaming language. It doesn’t work. The reason so many men are on these blogs is because they’ve gotten a bad deal from women. The problem is epidemic. Too many women want their cake and eat it too. They want rights without responsibility.
Now men have caught on and more and more of them refuse to put their heads into the matrimonial noose. If marriage was a commercial business it would go out of business. Wise shoppers spend their money and get a worthwhile product. Men spend their lives, freedom, sanity and money on marriage and get a kick in the teeth.
Women, you’d better wise up.
Southtown on
January 6th, 2008 9:00 am
Amanda, you claim that “[men] really treated women badly for most of history.”
I am glad to see you are intelligent, seeing as you do not hold today’s men accountable for what men long dead have done. There are plenty of women who like to use the actions of men who don’t have anything to do with the discussion or the actions that lead to it as an argument in said discussion.
Despite that, you seemed to have missed a crucial lesson in history class. You must know that, during the 200,000 years humans exist, the female was the dominant ***. Women took care of the community’s young ones and gathered fruits and other foodstuffs. In the mean time, men hunted. Food gathering, however, was any community’s greatest source of food and not hunting (as is often believed). This put women in a dominant position, as they were not only the only *** able to bear children, but they also supplied most of the food consumed.
To put it gently, men were at women’s mercy. To make matters worse, the “dating” arena wasn’t a friendly place to be for men either: one rejection was enough for all other women in a community to reject the rejected man as well, meaning his sorry genes weren’t likely to get anywhere (*). To top it off, a man could never be sure a child was his (while women always were and still are). Who knows some caveman named Brutus had his way with his wife while he was out hunting?
It was only starting from about 8,000 B.C. that men became the dominant ***, when agriculture started to spread across the globe. This was a slow process, though, taking thousands of years to fully spread across the globe.
(*) This may well be the reason why some/many men are shy and passive when it comes to relating to women in a romantic/****** way: evolution has taught us that a lot depends upon that one romantical pursuit, so we treat it as if our lives depend upon it; that is no longer true, but it takes a while before evolution adapts a species’ behavior to new circumstances.
Amanda on
January 8th, 2008 5:42 pm
Ok, “men treated women badly for most of [American] history”. That’s what I was getting at. That was a very tiny little piece of my comment and not really a part of my argument, however.
Amy on
January 9th, 2008 11:16 am
I am totally amazed that someone would spend a years salary on flowers to begin with. If and when me and my man get married I might steal some flowers out of the neighbors yard. I’m sorry, but if you are getting married for decent reasons you don’t worry about all that ****. And sorry, he’s a total dumbass for marrying someone that superficial anyway. You guys wonder why you end up with ****** women who wont give it up? Because your pickers are broken. If a woman want’s to go ring shopping it’s because she is materialistic. Why don’t women allow a man to come to them with a ring he picked out, no matter the size, and realize it’s the symbolism behind it that makes it special, not the bragging rights to other ho’s? Be grateful you were proposed to! **** a wedding, if I want to spend the rest of my life with someone, that’s all I want to do, not make it into a “look-at-me-i’m-pretty-for-one-day-pagent”. (no wonder i went back hetero!)
Amy on
January 9th, 2008 12:45 pm
Yes. I had large breasts at one time. Then I had two children and breast fed. Then my fat *** lost 70 or 80 lbs and I’m back in a B cup. Trust me, big boobs are a hassle and even often uncomfortable. Though they may be pretty and fun to play with, I’ll keep my B cups thank you. (not saying I wouldn’t play with some nice D cup store boughts to get my kicks though
Stephen on
January 9th, 2008 3:33 pm
I can’t wait for this marriage strike to become entrenched. Feminists are so smug. Letters like this prove that men are basically smarter and more compassionate than women. Today’s women hate men and couldn’t care less about their kids. Men were never so cruel and callous as your typical woman. What gets me is that when men ruled the world they were protective of women. But now that women are in charge they are basically vicious and irresponsible. There is no better argument for women to get back into the home than their present horrible behavior.
Phil on
January 9th, 2008 6:52 pm
Great advice. Boy, sure wish I would have read earlier. Just went through the hanging. You should also add “do not own your own small business and go before the judge.” He literally put me out of business by ruling me to pay 26,000 in 90 days. I know it doesn’t sound like much but when you make on avg 5,600 a month it is a lot. Looks like i’m on my way to jail for a long time with no possible way to pay or even have the judge removed so I can get a fair hanging.
Is there any help out there?
Clark on
January 9th, 2008 11:52 pm
Actually, in this day and age, if you marry a woman who makes more than you, prenups are not a good idea. Nothing will make the laws more fair and equitable than if a woman has to pay out like a man.
Aside from that, nothing will get rid of child support. A man will always have to pay this and keep the kids at the level of comfort that they were enjoying during the marriage (ie this is just ploy so even the man who has covered all the bases will still get screwed by the system, since the woman will enjoy most of the benefits of “child support”).
Isn’t it just like womyn that they have to comment on this stuff here and not leave us men alone to do our own thing. Who is love starved for attention? Sound like the women are.
Clark on
January 9th, 2008 11:58 pm
I heard this is just a scam by them to protect their assets when they are sued for the son’s negligence. Don’t know if it’s true, but Hulk seems pretty shameless. He’s a “pro” wrestler after all.
Curiepoint on
January 10th, 2008 3:27 am
Amanda: Wow. I am sad for you.
Save me your pity. I have no use for it.
Amanda: I have NEVER seen an ad about testicular cancer or prostate cancer framed in terms of how it will affect women.
I don’t know what media you subscribe to, but I’ve seen nothing else. How about the ad with the guy walking around with his wife on his back, literally? Or printed ads in Men’s Health Magazine that is comprised of a matrix of women’s pictures, each one captioned with “I have prostate cancer”?
Amanda: What about all the frikin ED research and the penile enlargement stuff
ED was never “researched”. The treatments for it fell out of a correlation between certain Blood Pressure medications and a side effect of spontaneous erection; the same meds that are given to women, BTW. Moreover, ED is indicative of a more serious medical condition, so while ED itself isn’t as important, the cause usually is. As to penile enlargement, you cannot be serious. All of those ads for penile enlargement are not the result of bona-fide medical research. It’s all snake oil and marketing. By the way…these ads are exclusively put forward in terms of “do it for her”.
Amanda: I assume you are saying more than women die of cervical, breast or ovarian cancer
Why assume that? Why do men have to die in greater numbers than women for it to be taken seriously? As it happens, the numbers of men who die of prostate or testicular cancer are slightly less than women; by slightly, we are talking about 50,000 less per year. Yet the amount of money spent on breast and ovarian cancer research gets pretty close to a billion dollars. For men: about one-eight that much.
Amanda: many married women encourage this
Sure…can’t pay the mortgage without the walking ATM…I mean…husband around.
Amanda: married men are happier and healthier
As stated by such scholarly journals as Cosmo and Woman’s Day magazines.
Amanda: heart attacks and heart disease symptoms and treatment were based on a male model.
Point made and understood.
Amanda: WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?
Lots of stuff. That’s life, and it’s lessons are not lost on a wise person.
Amanda: your mothers would be ashamed of you
I personally couldn’t care less about the opinion of someone who nagged and demanded a man into a much earlier grave. Not a kind word from her while he was alive, but not that he’s gone, he’s some kind of saint.
Stephen on
January 12th, 2008 10:26 am
There is nothing wrong with the institution of marriage per se. If the government hadn’t stuck their nose into it I would recommend marriage. But women in America have been poisoned by feminism and a sense of entitlement so therefore marriage is a fool’s paradise for men. Marriage in America offers everything good for women and nothing for men. No wonder fewer and fewer men are willing to participate.
Stephen on
January 12th, 2008 10:39 am
antiriad you are so right that marriage is the bedrock of civilization. Too many MRAs refuse to accept the fact that marriage is a relationship where the man loves his wife and kids and the wife submits to her husband. There is no other way or alternative dynamic of marriage.
obbop, allow me to explain how the end of marriage is the end of society. Great marriages create great people which leads to a great society. Ideally, marriage has benefits for all concerned: The husband is productive and is a good role model for his kids. The wife is a help and is also a good role model. The children learn justice, responsibility, sacrifice and so many other things.
But when you destroy marriage you destroy the nation and anarchy ensues. After almost 50 years of feminism husbands don’t know how to be husbands, wives don’t know how to be wives and children without discipline turn into criminals. You may not realize it but America is in grave danger of complete collapse because of the collapse of marriage which leads to the collapse of society.
Amy on
January 14th, 2008 2:06 pm
The problem is, as I have stated in some of my other posts, an unnatural imbalance. Though, who’s to blame? No one can truly say. It’s been going on too long. I for one hate most of society, but can I change how it affects my children? Barely, but I can do my best. As far as these stereotypes of women, they are very true! And I am proud to say that the cure for my experience is to find a healthy balance. Unfortunately the feminist movement has made it impossible for me to be completely traditional due to inflation and such. (women came into the work force, able to spend more money and drove the cost of living way up) Now, due to high living expenses I have to be able to contribute. No longer can you have the typical bread-winner father and the stay at home mother. You can no longer sufficiently support a family on one income. So the mothers go to work. They try to take on the role of mother, wife and career woman. Now, this is not impossible to do, but if you don’t know how to balance it just a bit, you wind up with one crabby *** *****. A woman who doesn’t have the capability to love her miserable man because she just doesn’t have the energy. Thus warping the view of what love is for the children.
What I try to do is work, be a mom and a good girlfriend. I try to make sure that my sons see me show my man affection. (teach them women are supposed to love them, not just annoy them). I do the best I can with the house and such and my guy helps me. I don’t nag for it because that just doesn’t work. He knows that I will not take care of it all on my own because that is not fair weather or not I am a female. (you wouldn’t put up with it out of a roomate, now would you?) But, I do make a special effort at doing the “woman things” and taking care of him. A special effort to make his life easier so he feels loved and secure. Isn’t that what you are supposed to do for those you love? (he does it back too because if he didn’t I would be wasting my time and thus move on) I ask him to do the less gender specific, less complicated things just to help me along. And as far as being a mom…I try to teach my boys how to be balanced men. How to be tough yet sensitive. I tell them that if a guy hits them to pummel the **** out of them, that if a girl hits him once to let her slide the first time but after that she’s fair game as well. I teach them to pick up after themselves because there is no use in being a slob. I teach them to strive for knowledge and that being happy is the number one goal in life. Yes, I do encourage them in sports, in video games, in school, but most of all in their peer settings. How to deal with other people. It’s best we concentrate on how we all get along instead of how we all get ahead of each other. That’s up to the individual drive I think.
Amanda on
January 15th, 2008 5:36 pm
That ad you were talking about with the woman on the man’s back was exactly what I was thinking when I was saying that men seem to care less about their health than women.. .the wife was on his back because he wouldn’t do it, she wanted him to be healthy because she LOVED him. Thanks for helping me prove that point.
You assume that women only want their husbands around because they “have the money”. Men are NOT always the breadwinners, and for God’s sake, WOMEN DO LOVE THE MEN THEIR WITH. It is possible, I promise you. You need to step out and realize that most wives/girlfriends love their husbands/boyfriends. I love mine. And he’s a poor teacher…..::GASP::
BTW–I told you I got the info about married men being happier and healthier in a University class, NOT Cosmo, thanks. If you REALLY want a reference I can try to find it but that would be a pain… I don’t really feel that this is worth it, I have grad school work I need to get done.
People of both sexes have their faults. I just wish everyone would stop generalizing people. Try a libertarian viewpoint and see people as individuals – not members of groups.
Doninya on
January 16th, 2008 10:07 am
This was the best advice i ever got.i made my daughter read it!!! I always new that men love ***.But now im going ot make sure I do too.yeaaaa.
Tim on
January 16th, 2008 10:47 am
Has any guy figured out how to hide cash before a divorce?
Ironfist on
January 16th, 2008 7:59 pm
“and most of these “Smart Men” will end up old single lonely men”
Who says they won’t even if they do get married?
Southtown on
January 17th, 2008 9:19 am
” Ok, “men treated women badly for most of [American] history”. That’s what I was getting at. That was a very tiny little piece of my comment and not really a part of my argument, however. “
– Amanda
Entirely true. Still, the myth that men did women wrong for most of history is so pervasive that it has to be corrected.
I am sick of hearing it used against men while:
1) what men long dead did is no fault of today’s men and while
2) it is not in the slightest true.
ronnie on
January 23rd, 2008 6:32 am
I agree with Felix above. It is simply far to easy for women to walk away with really nothing to lose, and lots to gain, if “chump” is the sole bread-winner.
There needs to be a change – make it harder to divorce – more to lose for the individual.
Curiepoint on
January 24th, 2008 7:33 pm
It’s curious, Amanda…but the ad you refer to makes absolutely no mention of the wife loving her husband; just that she’s a nag. As to the point about men not always being the bread-winners, on this I concur. But then again, whoever is the primary bread-winner in a marriage is really moot. The vast majority of divorces find the men penalized in favor of the ex-wife in the form of alimony, or in a more general term “Maintenance” regardless of the relative salaries of the people involved. And, with more than half of marriages ending in divorce, how many of them end up with the wife paying alimony to the husband because she make more than him? In the vast majority of these scenarios, she gets the house, both cars, and the kids. Whoever is better equipped to handle raising them based upon income potential is rarely considered.
Sure, it’s possible that women love the men they’re with. It’s also possible that an asteroid will strike the Earth and cause another mass extinction. After all, it happened once before in the Chixulub impact 65 million years ago, so it could happen again. It just doesn’t seem terribly probable. The bottom line is that people can proclaim love (indeed, proclaim anything) from now until the end of time, but words mean nothing. What counts are actions. I never believe what people say to a greater extent than what they do. My observations are admittedly skewed to one side, but they are my observations, and they are what direct my actions and beliefs.
No need to interrupt your graduate work for my benefit. Good luck on your thesis.
Dead-on with your observation about both genders having their faults. I have never denied this. But what happens when half of the population (individuals all I am sure), find themselves living a life whereby they have never had it so good in all of human history, and yet still decry their victimhood at the expense of the other half?
In a word, resentment.
In another, defiance.
Why get so worked up, Amanda? So what if I turn my back on women and consider them not worth the effort anymore? They can go along their merry ways, and I shall go mine, both of us unassailed from either side of the gender divide. Just as long as they stay away from my house, my land, and my life…everyone will be just fine. I’ve worked to damned hard to see even the slightest possibility of it vaporizing out of my hands and into a woman’s.
Luck on
January 25th, 2008 11:35 am
I’ve been divorced for a year now. I’m finding most women are pretty much the same with a slightly different tune. Most suffer from the grass is always greener syndrome or my fav, I can’t get my way I’m leaving syndrome. I’m lucky my wife took her stuff, I kept mine, no lawyers except the one that drew up the separation agreement. We still get along and even she has said “If I were you I wouldn’t marry again”. My new motto is, stop on by, do the deed, clean up if your feeling generous and good bye. I’m in my mid 30’s, making good money, lots of time off and couldn’t be happier. Scott Bao 46 and single pretty much says it all.
The fact is that men and women are quite different.
I wouldn’t take actors as icons of masculinity, and in particular actors playing cowboys. The 50s tough guy simply don’t work because the tough-guy image is cardboard – where’s the emotional depth, the three dimensional aspect of real men?
I’d rather take real men as role models, rather than actors.
Not to say that art can’t teach you anything about human nature – great art definitely can – but cowboy movies of the 50s are not the right place to look. I agree that men are negatively portrayed in the current mass media, however.
Expressions of emotion in men have always been celebrated – you only need look at fairy tales, ancient myths, and other stories. I think the idea that men should be cold and unemotional is recent and destructive.
The key problem is that people associate emotionality with femininity. I completely disagree with this. Men have great depth of emotion. IT is true that our ability to control these emotions, when required, has and should be celebrated. You can’t be an effective soldier or fireman if you are curled up on the floor crying. But likewise, a real man must allow these emotions to flow out when the time is right. How can these emotions be feminine – we are men!
I agree that public displays of weeping and hugging are nauseous, but you could argue that politicians would do anything for the right photo opportunity anyway. But, sharing emotions is a good thing in the right time and place. In Australia, much like how it sounds in the USA, we have the stereotype that men should ‘tough things out’ and are not given license to share their feelings with other men. Without question, this is one of the reasons why the male suicide rate in Oz is FOUR times the female rate (and more suicides are probably hidden in car accidents). For men aged 17-25 the suicide rate is 7 times the female rate, and it is particularly bad in rural areas. Men are dying rather than letting their emotions out, because it has been drilled into them that a real man doesn’t display emotions or weakness.
In saying that men are emotional, and should embrace this, this is not to say that the SNAG is the answer, either. The SNAG and the Mangina are effectively the same – a man who generally always sees women as right, as the victims, the wilting flowers who are crushed by men. He will typically always take the side of women and assume that they are more honest, ethical and principled than men. The Mangina is a sellout and typically is not able to emotionally connect and share with other men. He automatically views them as competition or as a threat rather than as a brother, and will often try this angle in order to ‘look better’ in front of women and get into their pants by attacking/shaming other men who are competition.
The old, John Wayne, idea of what a man is doesn’t work, and the feminist-imposed model is c r a p too. Collectively, we need to think, talk, and sort out a new model.
I would say that we do need models and heroes, and that you cannot simply let men develop on their own. If you don’t have role models and a positive idea of masculinity then young boys and teenagers have no guiding light. I disagree that ‘everybody’s different and just let them be how they are’. Sure, diversity is a great thing, but if you have no positives, then boys and teenagers are simply going to look for role models in other places – gang leaders, rock stars, etc. We should celebrate the great qualities of men and the great achievements of men, without necessarily demolishing men’s individuality.
You just need to be careful that Victor Hugo, Tolstoy, Max Planck, Mark Twain and Mozart are celebrated as great men too – not just soldiers, musicians and sports stars.
beanie on
January 27th, 2008 1:41 pm
As a fellow Norwegian I agree.I feel that the problem in this country is that people accept to many things without protesting. Why else can you have all these ridiculous taxes and laws. I could probably go on forever, but you probably know all about this already.
The one thing that pisses me off is that everyone is so much in agreement. I would love it if people could just disagree for once.Still I have my own things, and live life like a ghost, and I love it.
Sharon on
January 27th, 2008 2:10 pm
Dear Curiepoint,
The statement you just made was too long and drawn out. You lost my attention towards the second paragraph. I am sorry to say that you did not impress anyone but yourself.
Shariff on
January 27th, 2008 9:50 pm
Hi I am in a bad situation. She lied about physical and verbal abuse. Then went to a domestic violence shelter. Now she claimed I violated the EPO and she has not allowed me to see my daughters for 9 weeks. I am depressed. All I care about is my kids. Please let me know how can I proove my innocence? I never touched the woman. And she is using the law to get to me, It’s all based on allegations! Please help!
Schadenfreudian on
January 28th, 2008 9:20 am
Sad to hear Norway’s similar to the Norway that the Third Reich had absolutely no trouble entering and controlling. From Curvy’s post it looks as if Norwegians have farther to go before they arise from their coma.
I used to tell myself that the problem of female dominion over the male is predominately limited to English-speaking countries, since English is the purveyor of Feminism and the Violence Against Women Act. Yet apparently my assertion is wrong.
A warning to Curvy: A woman who defends men against obviously misandrist communities and organizations will herself soon become confronted with the nastiest and most vicious form of contempt. I have learned of other women who had the…uh…guts to speak out against injustice…only to receive death and bomb threats from Feminist groups and other such haters of anything male.
Stand by for your next REAL lesson about humans: when you challenge their power, you challenge their existence. When you challenge their existence…they will fight you to the death. Just be prepared and dig in.
Tim on
January 28th, 2008 10:54 am
Sorry to say but its true that feminism has destroyed America and the family.
Go ahead and run this through any search engine and you will find stats and stories.
Boom on
January 28th, 2008 12:11 pm
Sun gets it. Now she is the epitome of womanhood. Boy if we could just clone her, we could build a great society of right thinking men and women and bring up great families! I repeat FAMILIES.
Sun, if you are reading this reply….good for you! You will make a good man very happy and he will do the same for you. We need more loving women who have the correct mind set, like you, in our lives. Thank you!
John on
January 28th, 2008 12:34 pm
How refreshing! =D
Boom on
January 28th, 2008 2:02 pm
Well, well. Curvys’ got it right. A little experience and a little self education. Here is another young lady that’s got it right. We from the so called harder *** (male), thank you. It is obvious you are now in a very loving relationship because you realize that men actually wish to please you, not to be ordered about at your whim. Works much better now doesn’t it? Thanks, you are a knowledgeable lady.
hen here on
January 29th, 2008 6:51 am
Shame on this girl! She makes us all look like materialistic cows. Talk about a Bridezilla. Unfortunately my brother had a wife like that and he is still tormented by her even after seperation because they have kids. He should have stayed single or found himself a tomgirl like me. What can you do.
Le Miserable on
January 29th, 2008 7:58 am
So, I happen to be a wife and am wanting to leave my husband because HE is all the 5 things. Believe it or not, there are fun chicks out there with nagging, miserable to be with, control freak husbands.
ohboy on
January 30th, 2008 8:58 pm
I accompanied my brother on a visit to his divorce lawyer today. Don’t do it! Don’t get married!
Michelle on
January 31st, 2008 10:34 am
Hah! Whats wrong with wanting the best!? I’m happy to say that I love my man for exactly who he is and he’s definitely not rich or gives me everything I need. We both struggle. I think a man would do the same exact thing. He’s not going to get to the second floor and say “hey let me just stop here this is good enough for me.”
Michelle on
January 31st, 2008 10:56 am
I agree 100%. I’m a woman. Also I just came across this site and I was freaking out. I’m like who are these men married too?! I could never be such a cold hearted *****. I love to stand by my man!
Peace!
Michelle on
January 31st, 2008 11:26 am
WOW. This has the extremes of both sides. Those “women” really disgust me. Im sort of confused as to where I stand though. Since the begining of man, woman have been treated as objects and pretty much second class citizens. Never considered to have intelligence and were kept in the kitchen and actually it still is like this in other parts of the world. Now we have more choices and blah blah blah. So of course now some woman take this power and go crazy.
I guess to sum it all up were becoming more independent of eachother. I think its great. But the bitterness between both of us makes me truly sad. TRULY. Men just please try and keep in mind there are good woman. I believe most the men on this site go for the same type of women. Women who were raised with parents who waited on them hand and foot. Never heard the damn word NO! So of course they are going to expect you to do the same. With their fake breasts and designer bags. I hate those *******! Argh!
When your going out to find a girl. Your going to see a group of girls drinking cosmos and all gossping. Yes they may be beautiful. WALK AWAY go find the girl whose dancing with her best girlfriend, smiling and having a good time with a bottle of beer in her hand:). That girl is me
Good luck guys
Armand on
January 31st, 2008 12:51 pm
Scandinavian males are done. Finished. They have morphed into lemmings.
Anarchiste on
January 31st, 2008 1:27 pm
My conclusion…women will never fix this problem without being faced by utter ruin. Never. They will deny it right up until the end, right up until they are faced with total social collapse, and even then they will refuse to face their issues.
I wholeheartedly agree with every word.
Luckily, we might not have to wait much longer for this to happen. Waiting…
Michelle on
February 1st, 2008 5:56 am
Okay I love to take care of my man but this woman seems to think that we should be there ‘effing servent. Geez can’t you pour your own orange juice?! lmao
Khankrumthebulgar on
February 4th, 2008 12:43 pm
I doubt the attorney’s assertions. The former Mrs. Bollea has tried to get Terry G. Bollea’s bank accounts and assets frozen. She is getting down and dirty and trying to punish Mr. Bollea aka. Hulk Hogan. She is trying to cash out on him. Let this be an object lesson to other men.
The other ***** wife of a celeb is the insane Heather Mills. Offered $265 million for 4 years of marriage by Sir Paul McCartney. The same wack job endorsing the idea of people drinking “rat’s milk”. She is one insane head case. Former p*rn model, former escort, convicted shop lifter, who thinks she is a celeb because she was married to Sir Paul. She now wants to devote herself to charity causes; of course to be funded by them as well.
Just wanted to leave a note giving my definite pat on the back for Kim, she is indeed one of the most level-headed women… correction, she is one of the most level-headed ladies I have had the pleasure to happen upon.
Unlike many of today’s women, Kim is not crass with an awkward vocabularly filled with misandrous slurs in every other sentence.
Kim is a credit to antimisandry.com, to the blogosphere as well as women, but most importantly to herself.
Good call.
Curiepoint on
February 4th, 2008 5:18 pm
I’m not out to impress you Sharon. I was countering your arguements. In future, I’ll keep it all to the terse phraseology that you seem to understand…
Just wanted to post in agreement with what has been said of Kim. She is a wonderful HUMAN BEING with a great outlook on life and more importantly, family.
Just when you are about to loose it; reading about all the evils that are male, just pop on over to Kim’s blog… it will make you feel almost human again… and in this era, that is a feeling that escapes most men…sadly…
Also note, I found this site by reading her blog… for which I do religiously.. pardon the pun Kim!
Now how the hell did I miss this site! Link placed!
Sharon said: “I think that guys like this have way to much time on their hands to sit and say all this **** about women. Not all women are like what he describes. Just like, not all men are bad. However, guys like this (and the majority on this website) are acting like spoiled brats not getting their way. They need to grow up and start acting like mature adults instead of acting like whinny babies.”
Ah yes, women “can have it all” but we mere males are “spoiled”…. thanks for clarifying that for us..
The only thing I would change with the above opinions is to seek legal council FIRST, then the ultimatum… That way, if she gives you the routine (we all know what that is), you are prepared.
Sounds crass and defeating but shoot, look at where you are at now?
Prayers my friend.
Curiepoint on
February 5th, 2008 3:04 pm
I agree wholeheartedly about kids getting the most out of a financial arrangement, be it during a marriage or after it’s breakdown. But, to this end, the custodial parent had damned well account for every dime of child support that is being spent. It should be demonstrably proved to be for the child’s benefit directly. As it is, arbitrary numbers are set by the courts, and the non-custodial parent has no recourse. I’d rather give half my paycheck to my kids rather see one dime of it go to the ex.
Curiepoint on
February 5th, 2008 3:24 pm
Okay Amanda; you got me on the wedding dress thing. I claim ignorance with regards to that. I don’t intend to ever wear one. I have heard of them costing a huge amount of money, therefore my statements. I fully retract that one, though even $800 on a dress that only gets worn once (hopefully) seems pretty extravagant, but that’s me.
There are traditions and there are traditions. It used to be that we were expected to burn one-quarter of our livestock or yield from farming; giving it to G-d, as it were. We don’t anymore. Why? I suspect that it was found to be wasteful. Three month’s salary on a shiny pebble that was mined by slave labor is equally so. Let us not forget the tradition of a bride being a virgin on her wedding night. Where did that one go? I can remember reading family accounts from 100 years ago that spoke of the wedding guests inspecting the bed linens for blood to prove that the marriage was consumated while everyone else ate and drank, and that the bride was a virgin. Gotta love those traditions…not.
I’m not following the logical link of childbirth and diamond rings. Men didn’t design the birthing process to be painful, nor the carrying of a child to be as uncomfortable as it is. Therefore, how does a guy blowing a down-payment on a house equate? I’m not trying to be argumentative here. If there’s any enlightenment in any of this, I would welcome it.
Curiepoint on
February 6th, 2008 5:43 am
Dear Pissed,
I think it reasonable to assume that nothing lasts forever, not even marriage. Material possessions however…well, they won’t last forever either, but they will likely last longer than a typical American marriage. As far as dying alone is concerned, everyo
Hi, I definately can concure that there is a better life after divorce waiting for you.
It’s not for everyone, but divorce, when done *right*, can be a beautiful thing.
Dump your wife – someone else’s (this is true for them, too) is a much better fit.
Hello,
I am a belgian dude, my girlfriend has fake boobs and a really bitchy attitude.
I was in eastern europe – Slovakia (near russia, poland, ukraine). The girls are really so much better there.
I think we should all skip to the girls who are nice to us and don’t *****!
Good luck guys
I will break up soon, and finally travel again
A gem – hilarious! Psychotherapy is clearly the realm of nancyboys servicing the doormats of the world. Enjoy, sad therapist doormat, enjoy the prison of your own making.
Beautiful – simply beautiful.
Wonderful blog, my liberated Brother. I am also a Free Man, and I salute you!
Men have seen the Collateral Damage to Friends, their Fathers and Uncles. And the behavior of Women before and after Marriage. Those burned once, see Marriage in the US for what it has become. A One sided Adhesion Agreement. On the Woman’s side sits the State, and Federal Government. Men effectively lose all equity and power in a relationship after they say I Do. With lots of liabilities and minimal benefits Marriage is a high Risk, Low reward proposition.
And Women are unwilling to change that. They want equality and Chivalry and the right to choose which on their Whims. Sorry Men are walking away from Relationships, Dating, Chivalry and Women in general. As they have become a Luxury Men can live without.
Funny thing. Her past is coming back to haunt her. Including Shoplifting, Porn Video and Pics, and ************. Yes she is a former high priced Call Girl. Who was doing Arab Businessmen for big dollars. Hardly the virtuous Woman she proclaims to be. Also her own writings give her up as a liar. She is a Tramp, Gold digging *****, and a Liar. Hardly decent wife material. McCartney offerred her an extra $50,000,000 for Sole Custody of their Daughter Beatrice. McCartney is obviously a committed Father. Who enjoys his Canabis. His only real vice. Which many in the Entertainment Industry enjoy including Julia Roberts by her own admission.
The truth is simply this. Women are choosing to destroy Marriage. Their unreasonable and unrealistic Demands, coupled with the legal sanctions imposed by the States and Federal Government are eliminating the incentives for Men to Marry at all. It is simply put an Adhesion Agreement. It is completely one sided. Men have only obligations and responsibilites and no rights or privledges. Marriage will die thanks to Women’s selfishness. While they whine the whole time.
All the Movies made for Women feature a Wedding as the high point of the Movie. It is simply put a transaction that benefits Women at Men’s expense.
Two words Tom Leykis. Tom Leykis nationally syndicated Radio program, and the Men’s Movement is telling Men to “Hit and Get it”. In other words use US Women as ****** Companions sans commitment. Do not make a commitment, cohabitate or spend money on Gold Digging ******. There are plenty of young Horny and Willing Women out there. No reason to give up your Freedom, to be a Cuckhold for some Single Mom who is not worth making a life with. Since she will get tired of you any way and move on to the next Bigger Better Deal.
This advice along with Steele *****, Marc Rudov and other Men are blowing the whistle on the Double Standards of US Women. They have really and truly screwed the pooch. And paybacks as they say are a real *****.
Actually, the term is “Hit it and quit it”.
Not bad advice. “Hit it” which, let’s face it, is the sole reason for a man to date a woman in the first place, makes sense.
“Quit it” is what to do when a woman becomes bitchy, demanding or sexually withholding. No action by the third date? Done!
A relationship can actually form after you have had *** with her, like it, and you can actualy hear what she has to say. (We men don’t hear a thing until our first ******).
Single Moms? BTDT and never again!
Hi C. I put up a small post about this subject today… looks like there are a tad too many “nice guys” around. http://petepatriarch.blogspot.com/2006/12/now-this-is-funny-or-is-it.html
I find this article rather ironic after reading about the **** accuser’s baby, believed to be due soon" href="http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=172240" rel="nofollow">Duke Lacrosse issue in which the girl that claimed she got ***** by the men just gave birth, now the judge orders a paternity test. I rant on a bit, but it seems to me she got knocked up by someone and she wanted the gravvy train to get some nice support, and a settlement from some rich kids parents. I think it’s classic!
That guy is incredibly lucky that the police did not come to his house, charge him with ****, and arrest him.
In fact he should pray it won’t happen in the future – because it very well may.
Marriage is the bedrock of civilization – marriage where the man is the master and the woman obeys him implicitly, that is.
A civilization which has rejected this biological absolute has merely relinquished its desire to exist. This does not invalidate the concept of marriage; it invalidates the nihilistic norms which our dying culture has chosen to adopt.
I know of several women whom “accidentally” got pregnant while dating. Of course they would inform their boyfriend that they are pregnant, and each guy would have nothing to do with them. These women would blabber their stories around my workplace, and each of them had an abortion. I can only summise that these women must have thought that by getting pregnant their bf would take-up and marry them, but I guess they were too stupid to realize they were simply getting porked by thugs and players! Whadda bunch of stupid whores. Then to add insult to injury these stupid whores take out their stupidity on the baby and abort it down the garbage disposer at the clinic.
As a Father of two Daughters myself. The Oldest married with Three Sons. I worry about my Grandsons, and Sons. Having seen the predatory Nature of Women encouraged by the likes of Oprah and other apologists for Feminism. Oprah has never been married, has no children and yet advises Millions of US Women on how to live their lives. She is also considered to be a “Spiritual Advisor”, more nonsense to distract Women from their Religious roots.
The Churches and Houses of Worship in our Republic have abandoned Men. Too many of the Clergy were too busy having *** with their own members or even children. And have fully abdicated their responsibility to protect the Family. Stop with the pretense already it is the “Leaven of the Pharisees” aka. hypocricsy. Marriage in the US is an Adhesion Agreement. Under any contract Law it is so one sided as to be an invalid Contract or void contract. No judge would ever sanction such a one sided Business Contract.
And to make matters worse the so called Values Party, has fully caved into the Feminists. This according to Carey Roberts and David Usher. There was a 100% approval by the Republican Majority US Senate of the VAWA.
As Zen Priest has stated Feminism is liberating Men from Marriage and being a ManSlave to Women. When Heterosexual Women figure out that FemNags have screwed them over watch and see how ugly it will get. I hope we can give them some Dull Knives to use on the FemHags. It will be fun to watch the Feminists get their just rewards.
Men are coming to the realization that Marriage involves alot of compromises. Most Women are in a self reenforcing delusion. That they perpetually feed with fantasy. Too talk to educated American Women desperate for a Husband and children, who are collateral damage is truly sad.
As a Buddhist I believe in the Laws of Cause and Effect. That Women are increasingly sufferring and living alone is the effects of Feminism and our current Debased and Toxic amoral culture. That Women refuse to see it is Feminism that has screwed them not Men. Men never did want the current situation. Both genders are hurting. But Men have other options. Players, Pick Up Artists, Thugs, Bad Boys, staying Single or going offshore.
Terry Lynn Tersak wrote an Article that Kathleen Parker posted on Townhall entitled “Are We a Nation of Whores”? When Women are openly writing about how Feminism is turning previosly sane Women into Whores we have reached the bottom as far as our ethics and morals are concerned.
That Divorce rates are a few percentage points higher in the Christian Community that the Public at large also points to the unrealistic and unreasonble ideals that American Women, even Christian Women have. The Churches in America who are the so called promoters of Morals of Hearth and Home. Have fully abdicated their mission and betrayed their Teachings. That Men are bailing on the Feminized Churches should come as no surprise.
That Men are increasingly choosing to go offshore for Traditional Wives should be a huge sign that we are “Wheels Off”, I.E. dysfunctional as a society. We have sown the wind and have reaped the whirlwind.
I think this guy did the right thing. Women nowadays are not truthful, especially American women. So when their biological clock starts ticking, they could trick a man with lies. I know because it happened to my cousin and I thoght what a sad moment for him.
Love live freedom my brothers. Hell Yeah!!!!!
It is pleasureable to shag alone. After all why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free.
I divorced my wife a few years ago and THEN found this site. She was all five of these reasons and more. Glad I have this re-enforcement to make me smile.
This article is very good reading. It describes the exact reason why I am holding out on marriage and most likely will never get married. I have worked too hard to get where I am financially and emotionally (no issues, no drama) to have it all wrecked by a self-entitled woman. If I ever do get married, it would be to a woman who doesn’t have the typical characteristics of the Western American woman – which means I will have to find one out of this country.
It kills me when I have conversations with female friends and acquaintances that the only reason they think men hold out on marriage is because we can get *** easily outside of it. Well, I then list the other reasons – like getting financially tortured and killed in divorce court, children taken away, marriage & family is EXPENSIVE as ever, stressful, ad nauseum and THEY DON’T GET IT.
I’ve come to the conclusion that they DON’T want to get it and have decided to leave them alone and enjoy my life. When they see me do this, they call me player, looser, a commitment-phoebe, etc. and I just say to them that “that’s desperation language when you are no longer desired” and they go ballistic.
Enjoyed the article…after being married for the past five years my wife decided that our marriage has too many problems and that we should separate. Now that’s she realizing that living alone with her three children might not be quite the paradise she originally seemed to think it was going to be (and more importantly that she would actually have to get a job) she wants to go to counseling. Of course she expects me to find a counselor and then pay for all the sessions…while she continues to spend her stress filled days doing laundry and cooking a meal five days a week. She’s got a surprise coming when I tell her that the only “counsel” I’ll be seeking is my lawyer’s while he writes up our divorce papers.
Most of the SAHM speech is coming from so-called “christian” women who are simply using christianity as a meal-ticket for a slothful life. When I read the Proverbs chapter 31 in the bible, it describes the wife as busting her *** all the time, I don’t see any modern-day SAHM in proverbs chapter 31. Nice try foolish women, go find another shmuck to ply your craft on.
Marriage is a losing proposition period. Most women expect us to pay for everything.
… I have to agree.
Sure you can’t call in sick or skive off, you can’t clock off at 5pm, in fact you are on duty constantly for the next 18 years or so and you don’t get paid for over time…oh wait a minute, you don’t get paid at all…but have we really got it all that bad?
I for one would rather spend the day at home, visiting my friends or going shopping with LM than drive through traffic and sit through meetings and team building exercises, and whilst we might envy our partners escape from the home each day how can we dislike any job that means we get to watch soap re-runs, play around on the internet and nap?
So yeah, shhhh,
*looks around furtively*
It is a cushy number, just for pities sake don’t tell the men folk!
Most of the SAHM speech is coming from so-called “Christian” women who are simply using Christianity as a meal-ticket for a slothful life. When I read the Proverbs chapter 31 in the bible, it describes the wife as busting her *** all the time, I don’t see any SAHM in proverbs chapter 31. Nice try foolish women, go find another shmuck to ply your craft on.
I have no words… Evil, evil woman.
Are you kidding me? Have a single one of you men stayed at home full time with children? I have both worked full time and been at home with children fulltime. I am telling being at home (when the children are younger especially) is much much more work!!!
I for one married my husband for love. He was definitely not rolling in dough, though he has nice stable job. When we divorced I only wanted child support not alimony. I think the judge thought I was nuts. I had no job at the time (the kids were young) but I did not want a penny for myself. I was ill at the time and my husband couldn’t handle the responsibility. I was left too ill to work and two kids to raise and not much money. I did everything I could to get well enough to work (which I have been doing steady for years now). While I was “shopping” at food pantries to feed our children, he was ******** his best friends wife. I am tired of hearing American men talking about how all woman want is their money. I just want a good reliable man who sticks to his commitments instead of running off when the going gets tough!
You nailed it! My mother was born in 1940, and she has executed her family role beautifully. She puts her family first, will cook for the family, do the laundry for the family, and do lots of house cleaning.
At the same time I realize that my mother was in the last generation that was not infected by man hating feminism.
As of today, I would strongly agree that today’s modern stay at home American Mom is very lethal to the American Man. (If you need any proof read the Cultural Devastation of American Women by Nancy Levant.)
There was a time where a true stay at home mom was very beneficial to the American man, sadly though, those days are over as Feminism and the Family Court System have destroyed the value that a stay at home Mom would have.
I would gladly trade places with any woman who wants a stay at home dad.
Cleaning house is easy. As a matter of fact, when I kicked the ex wife to the curb for being a lazy ungrateful b*tch I had the house cleaner in 2 hours than it took her a week to clean.
Coming home to fishsticks and screaming kids is no way to go through life. I fight a**holes all day long at the office, my ex wife seemed to think I wanted to fight with her over some stupid bullsh*t like who is emptying the master bedroom’s bathroom trash can this week.
I mean wtf, its not enough she doesn’t do sh*t all day, now I gotta do my part for our bathroom?
Paternity fraud should be a Felony, no ifs ands or buts.
Oh my god, this reminds me of my friend who went through this a few years back. I think I’ll have to write about it now.
Anyway, she totally tricked him into having a baby by saying she was on the pill. So stupid him, he didn’t use a ****** at all.
She refused to have an abortion because of her “religious beliefs” – which happened to not extend to her coke snorting, and casual f**king – and ended up having the baby.
He refuses to see the child and feels his whole life is ruined.
I’ve got to say he shares some of the blame for not wearing a ******. Boys, put those hats on!
Mammy, your b.s. is so thick in here that I’ve had to put on my duck-hunting chest-waders to wade through your b.s.
First of all, one or two children is piece of cake nowadays. Try raising 8 or 10 little monsters like the women of yesteryear did and like many Amish women still do. How do the Amish women find time to raise so many kids without electricity, without Pampers, without bottle-warmers, without electric rocking cradles, without microwave ovens, without Hamburger Helper, etc.? You have got to be f’ng kidding me with your delusional b.s.
Secondly, I don’t know you from shamu, but let me take a wild guess as to why your husband left you for another woman. Oh I don’t know, could it have had anything to do with the fact that you have all these modern conveniences of life that your foremothers never had YET ALL YOU CAN DO IS WHINE AND MOAN ABOUT HOW HARD LIFE IS??? You know, when a woman whines and complains, that whining **** doesn’t put a man in the mood for playing hide the salami, but I guess you thought your whining and complaining was like verbal viagra to him. Now he’s in the arms of another woman, and as long as she doesn’t whine and complain she probably gets to hide his salami.
Hello scary bitter men that make gross generalizations about women.
I’m not married.
I don’t have children.
I don’t want children.
I have been living with the same guy for the last 5 years.
I am financially independent.
I work full time.
Not all women are as you describe. In fact, I know very few that are.
At the end of the day, I think that you are all making a big fuss over nothing. Make good choices. Live with choices you make. Stop whining.
Many of the comments above sound weak and pitiful. Take responsibility for your own actions.
My Mother used to say to us Four Children. “Your Father works hard for us every day. Give him time to unwind. Before asking him for his time.” She made a point of saying this in front of our Dad. He always smiled, they after 51 years are still in Love. Still smile at each other. Still enjoy each other’s company. She dotes on him. Watches his diet makes sure he gets enough exercise and takes care of him.
She gives him his space to pursue his Hobbies. This is what I saw Marriage to be like growing up. It is why I wanted to get Married. Yet half of us four kids have been Divorced. And our Spouses were not reasonable or realistic. We have been enveloped by the Divorce Culture.
Earlier death in men probably results from the greater amount of calories that men consume each day compared to women. Calorie restriction has proven to extend life. Excess calories, and in particular excess glucose from carbohydrates, causes many problems, especially organ failure, cancer and DNA damage, resulting in earlier death.
Now you could argue that working one of those physically demanding professions requires that a man consume extra calories per day, resulting in higher incidences of heart disease, stroke, cancer, etc.
The problem in western nations is that most women have gone to the extremes. Most women are either **** blockers or they spread their legs for anything that moves or comes with batteries, there’s no reasonable balance between these extremes, thus very few women in the west have a healthy view of ****** intimacy — yet the vast majority of western women cry for a monogamous relationship with a man. Go figure.
No more women for Sir Macca
By EMILY SMITH
US Editor
January 12, 2007
TROUBLED Sir Paul McCartney has said he is “through with women” in the wake of his divorce fight.
He poured out his heart to pals while on holiday with daughter Beatrice
The former Beatle, 64, told them at his five-star resort in Jamaica: “I’m through with women. It’s been horrible.
“I’m just glad to be able to get away with Beatrice.
“She is the most important person in my life — she’s all I have.”
Sir Paul jetted to the Caribbean island after New Year following a new divorce demand of £50million by estranged wife Heather, 39.
The star took Beatrice, three, and two other family members with him.
He has rented a five-bedroom villa at a resort he used to visit with beloved first wife Linda, who died of cancer in 1998.
Macca told those close to him: “It’s lovely to be back. It’s like being home again. It reminds me how happy we were together.”
But Sir Paul tried to put his emotions in the background as he went sailing on his own.
In spite of strong winds, he expertly manoeuvred the small craft. The star then pulled the boat up on the beach and cleaned it down before heading back to Beatrice.
Macca recently looked tired and drawn following the strain of his divorce battle.
But he was spotted smiling and chatting to holidaymakers in Jamaica.
An onlooker said: “He looks great. Just like his old self.”
It’s a Wonderful Life. Remember that movie? Jimmy Stewart goes back in time to see what would happen if he did things differently. One never really knows actually. The hypothetical history above does give pause for reflection. WEspecially interesting is the prohibition thing.
May I digress and inquire about the prohibition of hemp? Umm…here’s a link (leap.cc) to an association of 5000 cops and judges who think prohibition should be repealed.
Digression aside, it was an entertaining article.
Here’s another one:
In the year 2030, discouraged men disdraught at being marginalized and ignored by legions of hoary rugmunchers, no longer have the fighting spirit, because there is nothing thst they love left to fight for. As a result, Latino and Muslim machismo begin taking over. The shocked feminasty queens of hate are forced to submit into harems, etc. The men, don’t notice that the women are gone, since they have been misused and unloved all along.
In the year 2031 the men rally to rescue the women, on condition that the women change their evil ways.
Sorry, it is getting late so I’ll turn in now, to sleep, but my bed is empty as a barren femmiwitches’ womb. Aarrrgg! No I can’t stand it, I guess I’ll go out and see if I can scare up an old bag lady. Heh heh
It was Feminism that encouraged women to be sexually liberated, thus men are eternally indebted.
No it wasn’t feminism that made women sexually liberated. It was the free love of the 60’s and cocaine of the 70’s. And the Hip Hop / Rap scenes of the 90’s and today.
Since passing of the 19th ammendment (removing the restrictions on women voting) the country has engaged in the second world war, the Korean war, the Vietnam war, two wars with Iraq. We have seen a massive growth in the goverment with the New Deal and the Great Society programs. In fact we haven’t seen a reduction in the size of government since the 19th ammendment except 1946 when World War 2 ended. I am not saying that all of this is the fault of women but they sure haven’t use their votes to make the U.S more free or more peaceful.
Changes to law must occur first for feminism to have a chance to spread like a disease. Feminists have always worked to change laws from the very beginning until today. The first and foremost feminist victory was changing the US constitution to allow women to vote, that was the first domino that started the whole bus load of **** heading downhill at breakneck speed without any brakes into the abyss.
Without granting women the right to vote, hypothetically speaking, I think the US would contain about 25 times more wealth than currently, and about 1000 times less debt than is currently. I say that simply because the feminist agenda has sucked down massive amounts of financial resources and wasted them into oblivion, which has made the US poorer than it could be and deeper in debt than it should be.
Feminism’s cost to the USA has got to be somewhere between $100 trillion to $200 trillion dollars over the last 80 years — that’s the difference between where the USA is today financially and where the USA would be today financially without feminist laws.
But, I guess some feminists said that there was some husband somewhere in America that was abusing his wife, so we needed to change all the laws, starting with women’s right to vote, so we can help stop that man from abusing his wife. $200 trillion wasted down a black hole becasuse someone started the ball rolling by claiming a new law would save an abused woman somewhere in America, as the liberals always say, “If this new law just saves one _______ (insert woman, children, panda bear, etc.) it was well worth it”.
Simple formula for Marital happiness. Don’t spend us into insolvency. Cook us home made meals on a regular basis. Give us time to unwind and to reconnect mentally before the complaint department opens for business. A regular romp in Bed at least 3 times in Bed, weekly. And an occassional ****** escapade. Be inventive. Regular verbal appreciation, respect, admiration. Cold Beer or beverage. Laugh at our jokes now and then. Let us be Men, not Metrosexuals, Men Damnit.
Let us be Fathers and discipline our children. Acknowledge we will not be your Girlfriends, or will want to act like one. Let us enjoy our Sports, and have some downtime with our Buddies. Men are simple. We don’t need alot. We will walk over broken glass to please you, give our lives to protect you. And listen to your concerns.
We will not emote like you. We are hard wired differently. If you are worried about directions. Invest in a GPS device. End transmission.
Feminists or Femifascists will insure the financial collapse of the US. They are too stupid or selfish to take Economics into their unending demands for more and more resources. They are mentally children without any concept of limits or reality. Collectively since Feminism has come into existance we have aborted 1,000,000,000+ Children worldwide.
This is the most evil Movement in modern history. In terms of the innocent lives taken. It eclipes Pol P*t, the Khmer Ro*ge, Mao TseT*ng, Joseph Stal*n, H*tler, Atilla the H*n, etc. It is akin to a Religious Cult. Denying Human biology, Reason, Empirical Evidence, Logic and Science. It is a form of Mental Illness. And it is plunging birth rates everywhere it is being embraced.
Evolutionary Biologists insist that Humans survived the Neanderathals due to our Division of Labor. Men hunted, and Women attended to the Children. It was a specialization of Labor. No Gender was better than the other. But Men due to our Brains, and our hormones. Are by our Nature hardwired to lead. It is only in the last 40 years that Women, have stupidly ignored our biology and Neurological hardwiring and joined the Society of Flat Earth thinkers. With laughable results.
NOW’s own Leaders admit that their membership is 40% Lesbians. Who hate Heterosexual Men and compete with us sexually for attractive Females. Just who stupid are our Women? Apparently very stupid to believe the lies of Feminism. Stay at Home Moms should be regarded with high honors.
It is Femifascists Like Linda Hirschmann who regard them as Losers and dullards. It is Feminists who have forced them into the workforce. Stop blaming Men, and realize it is your Feminist Sisters who have consigned you to Wage Slave status. They believe the Child raising role to be “Oppression”. I do not.
i must agree there.duncan is a briliant writter ,is this a real pic of him i have often wonderd what he looks like
One evening years ago, my then feminist wife and I were getting into bed. As the passion started to heat up, she eventually says, ” I don’t feel like it. I just want you to hold me and experience the joy of independent womanhood. You’re just not in touch with my emotional needs as a woman enough for me to satisfy your physical needs as a man. She responded to my puzzled look by asking, “Can’t you just love me for who I am and not what I do for you in the bedroom?”
The next day I opted to take the day off of work to spend time with her. We went out for lunch and shopping at a an upscale department store. I walked around with her while she tried on several expensive outfits. She couldn’t decide which one to take so I told her to take them all. She wanted new shoes to compliment her new clothes, so I said let’s get a pair for each outfit. We went to the jewelry department where she picked out a pair of diamond earrings. She was excited. She was almost nearing ****** satisfaction from all of the excitement. Smiling with excited anticipation she finally said, “I think this is all dear, lets go to the cashier.”
I blurted out, “No honey, I don’t feel like it. I just want you to HOLD this stuff for a while. You’re just not in touch with my financial needs as a man. “Why can’t you just love me for who I am and not for the things I buy you?”
If I do that I loose, house, kids, and the dream. The alternative IE child support, poverty, crappy digs. In my opinion I am better off to stay put. Even if I am unhappy, the alternative is worse.
What she did was very outrageous. If you want you can post a piece I wrote called Fuckers and Suckers. This piece exposes Western Women for what they are.
http://www.dontgetmarried.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=public&action=display&thread=1168841085
After reading the nomarriage ebook, the author talks about two groups of men fuckers and suckers.
Keep in mind western women love excitement and hate boredom. When they are in their teens and early 20’s they don’t want stability that suckers have to offer because that is boring.
Keep in mind that women don’t think for themselves but decisions on who they date or sleep with is usually made by the council not by the woman herself. This council is usually made up of her mother, sister, and friends etc. If dating a nice guy is not considered to be fun and popular by the “council” he is going to get snubbed.
There is another group of guys called fuckers. Women love to have *** with these guys during their prime years. Although they offer no stability to these women, however women will still sleep with them. The reason why women will is because they are unpredictable and therefore they are deemed as very exciting.
Once these women get to there late 20’s – early 30’s they will fraudently sell their looks to suckers who make a good income in order to get married. In other words they will put on a pony show for them until they get the ring. After a few years of marriage, these women are going to get bored and everything is the suckers fault. They will look for affairs and cash out on their suckers knowing that they will get the house, child support (if they have children), and alimony. All she has to do is file a false abuse charge (no proof necessary) to make all this happen. Even as a bonus, the sucker even gets to pay for her attorney fees.
Also, remember guys a women’s fertility starts to decline at age 27 not in her 30’s and 40’s. If any of you want to start a family I highly recommend to make sure that the woman you are going to start a family with is no older than 25.
Despite their not being any legal justice in this country, Mother Nature has a justice of her own.
Those suckers who once ached for these women will lose interest in them once they get to be in their mid to late 20’s. The last thing they are going to find attractive are used up women in their late 20’s-30’s. In fact these women must be avoided at all cost. They got a disease called baby rabies. They are going to do everything possible to get pregnant and trap you into a long term relationship where they can get provided for.
However, once those “suckers” get financially stable they will get to travel to foreign countries and enjoy beautiful women. Also, while in the United States, they will have developed fun hobbies to do when they are not working. In fact these “suckers” will not have to deal with the stress of fear of divorce, a nagging *****, false abuse and **** chargers, get to keep their sanity and money, won’t have to worry about raising kid that aren’t theirs etc.
However, the women who neglected the “suckers” in favor of the “fuckers” during their prime years are going to have to face justice. It’s not legal justice but Mother Nature justice. Once they get to their late 20’s for every year a man ages, they will be aging by two years. They will wrinkle and get ugly very fast. Investing thousands of dollars in makeup in order to form a bond with a “sucker” is not going to get the job done because they failed to form a bond with a “sucker” during their prime years. Their biological clocks will be ticking and they will get very desperate. They are going to want to be talking care off, like living off a “sucker” so they won’t have to work. Disgusted by their behavior, the “suckers” will not want anything to do with them and will rebuke them. They are going to have to work long hours for the rest of their life because they could not find a “sucker” to take care of them. They will whine and complain that the “suckers” will not commit despite them snubbing them in favor of the “fuckers” during their prime years. They will rot all alone with no one to take care of them, many of them will not get to have children, and will be living very miserable lives until death all because they thought it was cute to let the “suckers” rot all alone while they go squander their prime years to the “fuckers” That my friends is what I call justice!
- Outcast Superstar
you guys never fail to amuse me!
I am a stay at home mother, and a qualified teacher. My husband prefers me to be at home with our daughter. I have fought for self worth every day since my daughter was born because I felt like I was not contributing to our family financially. My husband has never made me feel this way – - that is just the way I feel. It was more my husbands’ decision for me to stay at home – - he thinks that it is ultimately better for her to be raised by me. I honestly have to agree with him, and THAT is why I am staying at home.
We want to be the ones to see her first steps, her first crawl, hear her first words… not a stranger. We trust each other more than I would ever trust a stranger to take care of her. THAT is why I am raising her, and staying at home. I am not a feminsit, I am not interested in watching soaps, and I do try to make sure that our house is tidy, and there is food on the table for my husband when he comes home from work… but I am not his slave, nor do I feel that it is my duty to do all of these things… I do them for him, because I love him. The less he expects from me, the more I want to do these things for him.
So, if you self-pitying men would take a second to realize that perhaps your selfishness is what is causing your women to turn on you, and perhaps you might have more luck in your relationships by accepting women for the things you love about them instead of the things that might not be so appealling.
There is no job more important than raising a child, and those who believe this not to be true must be a truly selfish and self-absorbed S.O.B.
p.s. – If you guys stopped spending your weekends on the couch / computer, and made an effort to eat healthier and exercise, then you wouldn’t be as likely to die so much younger then women.
And for the guy who begrudged the fund-raising for Breast Cancer… SHAME ON YOU! WOMEN have worked hard for the fight against Breast Cancer… it kills your wife, sisters, mothers, etc every minute of every day. How about instead of begrudging a worthwhile cause, get off your butt and start a worthwhile cause for men?
MEN, what would YOUR mothers think of you if they read the articles that you are writing here? I think that most of them would be ashamed of you.
RE: If you guys stopped spending your weekends on the couch / computer, and made an effort to eat healthier and exercise, then you wouldn’t be as likely to die so much younger then women.
Loki, I went surfing around the net and it took me 3 minutes to discover this:
Stop being so lazy on 43 things
One stay at home mom admits:
“1) I spend too much time on the computer. Like right now.
2) I spend too much time on the couch watching TV. The only time I should be watching TV is when I am sitting there nursing my baby. Other than that, NO!
3) I sleep way too much, I never want to get out of bed. Being a stay at home mom, it’s not like I have to be anywhere at any given time, so I have no schedule, which contributes greatly to my laziness.
4) I almost never exercise.
So in conclusion, to end my laziness, I have these goals for the first week: Exercise at least 3 times this week. Get no more than 8 hours of sleep per day. No watching TV unless I am nursing. Limit computer time to 2 hours a day (LOL, that’s bad when 2 hours/day is “cutting back”).”
And this gem too:
“Since I quit smoking 4 months ago I have been slowly but surely eating myself through a number of very bad food groups. I said to myself that I wouldn’t eat so much and that I would get out every day and go for a walk…that lasted 2 days….i need to be more motivated!!!”
I sure wouldn’t want to be their man out busting my hump to come home to them. “Baby, did you make a meatloaf today by chance, I’m really hungry?” Sorry hubby, didn’t get a chance, been real busy with the kids you know.”
A few random thoughts:
Has anyone ever noticed that all the breast/cervical cancer adverts feature women who are portrayed as the ever-popular strong/independent/sassy-@$$ types who are gonna beat this thing, dammit…Yet, the rare advert that addresses prostate or testicular cancer are always related in terms of how it affects women? One can almost envision the headline:
MEN DYING IN DROVES. WOMEN HIT HARDEST OF ALL
Also, I love how Loki can admonish us pathetic men for not eating right or exercising and that’s why we die earlier. Well Loki, women don’t fare much better in terms of their personal habits. I don’t see any Big Handsome Man movements forming anywhere, at least not with the ubiquity of the BBW movement. Most are just as bloated and ill-healthed as any guy. The difference is that billions and billions of dollars are spent on research to help women and their ailments. Barely any money is spent on men’s well-being. Why? because women fail to acknowledge that they are:
1). The ones who hold all the political clout. Otherwise, they will ***** and nag like little children until they get their way.
2). Their agendas are supported by every major media outlet.
3). They think with their uteri, rather than their brains.
4). They buy into whatever the herd mentality tells them.
5). They couldn’t care less about any man, and if anything happens to him their first thought is how they are going to subsidize their lifestyles. Heaven forbid they have to do what men must, which is suck it up and deal.
5). They quite simply are the enemy.
Wow. Astounding leaps of logic. I’m glad that you all have it figured out.
Things were *much* better for my grandmother who had an abusive husband who was also a child molester. But hey, at least the family was not obese.
Yes, women really wrecked it for everyone when they wanted to be considered equal.
There are jerks in both sexes. There are also lovely people in both sexes.
Peace to you.
Ed needs to have a 2 week garage sale… (with a lot of items given away for FREE)… Then bring in the dumpster & haul the rest of the garbage to the dump… (And if the wife is accidentally found in that dumpster, I assure you Ed it’s not a great loss!) There is a serious sanitation issue here along with safety & possible fire hazards. I personally would not tolerate this kind of situation for more than 2-3 days. Ed, you are either the doormat of the century, or you have been trying to have 15 minutes of fame. What a looney way to go about this. This kind of a situation speaks volumes for NEVER getting married, since men are used and dragged into the problems of others.
A Paternity test should be mandatory for every live birth. It would solve this nasty problem. I bet one in 10 children have dads that are dads in name only. And the REAL biological father is out there somewhere laughing his a** off… because he got away with no child support for 18 years.
Yeah, he’s a woman-hater because he doesn’t want his home turned into a trash heap. This isn’t even about whether or not she does the housework. This is beyond anything he could ever keep up with even if he decided that he would take charge of the cleaning. As to her needing his support, she needs severe electro-convulsive aversion therapy.
I hope he has the nads to tell these hateful Bi**hes off.
No, they wrecked it for everyone when they started considering themselves more equal than others.
The only way a western woman can please me in bed is if she just let me sleep.
The problem is that women tend to stick together – this is why whenever someone complains about a woman, he is instantly found guilty of misogyny by the all-female court of public opinion, since they’re afraid that he’s talking about the entire female gender when he is talking about one female.
Wow! I have heard about a lot of crazy stories but nothing like this. Hopefully Ed will get to spend his golden age years living in peace.
This must be why, in the Middle Ages, the most important relationship was between an uncle and his nephew.
Even if you couldn’t prove your own kids were yours, you could ALWAYS prove that you were related to your sister’s kids.
And really, I think that many (stupid) women do this (and have done this since women have existed), and that’s because she wants to use her pregnancy as a free meal ticket (as stated above).
In reality, even if you have a minimum wage job, you’re going to be much better off with all the stuff you want and less stress, then if you get pregnant and get some poor shmuck to marry you so you can leech off of him.
“Feminists”, my ***. Women like this are misandronist manipulative *******.
A REAL feminist would RESPECT a man, not treat him like ****.
Right now I’m really upset that I can’t find a better job because I want to support my husband so he doesn’t have to work while he goes to college, but I just got a good letter in the mail that says I’m in the top ten for a higher paying job, so I’m stoked.
Any woman who treats men like a commodity does not deserve the respect nor the companionship of any man.
When I think about the way things have changed, I think about two things; we can either start blaming women for everything (or indeed, feminists/femnazis/or whatever you’re calling them nowadays), or we can start looking at things realistically.
Stuff like WW2, Vietnam, and other wars were all mostly due to pressures that boiled over. Even if women have the right to vote, many do not, and your vote isn’t worth much when it comes to something that involves an electorial college, or, say, the fact that you’re voting for the lesser of two evils, both of which will do simliar things when elected.
To say that feminism is the reason for all the evil, destruction, and chaos in society is putting up a big flaming strawman (or should we say strawfemnazi?) and then attacking it.
If you look at society today, many of the socialized medicine and social programs to help people without money/health insurance are what keeps the poor in America (a whopping 20-30% of the population) as well as those who are uninsured (accounting for even MORE!) from being completely without healthcare.
Due to HMO’s and big business (mostly built up completely independently from feminism, let’s say it was more capitalism’s doing), the common person in this country is pretty screwed.
Also, looking at credit card debt and other things; we can’t simply blame this on the people with boobies. People are being taught to be consumers. We don’t have “consumerettes” and “men”.
While I do think that gender roles are pretty screwed up, I am really happy that people like my husband can be comfortable with acting more “feminine” if he so chooses without reproach, or that I can go out and support him with my income while he goes to school.
Additionally, without women’s rights, it would still be legal for a husband to **** his wife; and I don’t think that **** is good for anyone. Women who are forced to stay at home are at the mercy of their husbands for money and are often less well-educated. I believe that having better educated women allows for society to be better educated as a whole. Even babies and children being raised by women who are well educated tend to do better in school, have higher grasps on vocabulary, and are related to in a way that behooves good development.
Don’t worry about women rising up to become femnazi lesbians. After all, I can tell you that I probably couldn’t stand half the **** of living with another typical woman. I prefer to be around guys because they’re easier to understand, to relate to, and to otherwise take care of. If I make dinner or invite them to a movie night, I know I won’t have to sit through tear-jerker **** that makes my eyes bleed. While I do have some lovely female friends who don’t fall into the “annoying woman” category, I find that there are way too many women who do.
I do, however, think that the choice of women to get abortions, as well as to have gynecologists, and awareness about their bodies, how they work, and their freedom to explore their bodies.
To respond to an above poster, I think it’s really awful that your wife would tease you like that; telling you that she doesn’t want *** after getting you all riled up.
I think that some women just get off on that kind of power trip; but usually, it’s because they have problems with their own self-esteem.
And for the record, I hate shopping for clothing and shoes and **** like that. Makeup? It rots your skin. And yet, I’m surprisingly good looking and I have a husband who I am lucky to be with.
The reason I CAN pay for myself, why I can take my husband out to dinner or buy him a gift, is because I *DO* have a job. I could *NOT* do anything special for the man I love if he had a job but I wasn’t allowed to because of my *** without spending *HIS* money to do so. That’s unfair and stupid. Why should I be forced to stay at home and be a housewife when we don’t have any kids, and he’s going to school? Why shouldn’t I support him when he needs it? Why shouldn’t I make his life easier?
And about the healthy/unhealthy food thing? It’s not hard to have a healthy diet and lifestyle in today’s world. You just have to pay for it. Either time or money is the cost, and since I’m lucky enough to live in the “produce capital of the US”, I can get good food for low prices. And most people go for the most bang for a buck, and that’s just plain unhealthy. I’d be more likely to blame that “more is better” attitude on consumerism.
In conclusion, I think that there were some very very prominent driving forces other than “those evil femnazis” to cause things like WW2, prohibition, etc.
Believe me, just getting the right to vote doesn’t mean you’ll do it, or that the society you live in suddenly becomes ok with you being “liberated.”
Remember, when black people first got the right to vote, hardly any of them did it due to pressure from white people and simply the fact that they had never had such a right before.
Feminism, true feminism, is about equality, which means more rights for men AND women; rights to be able to knock down gender roles, and to choose what you want in life.
And I think that such a goal is a wonderful thing.
While I think that such roles are kind of unrealistic, they do have some bearing in reality. Wives should be nice to their husbands. But husbands should also be nice to their wives in return.
And I do think that there are many many ways to make a marriage both happy and functional, without the 50’s Houswife mumbo-jumbo.
I know that my father is very very unhappy, even though my mom did the whole housewife bit. It’s because she was so caught up in roles, that she forgot when they had to be real people with one another.
Plus she seems to have this weird obsession with men being all rapists and molesters. I think this has to do with her childhood; being stuck in a household with a mom who was never there and a bunch of her mom’s boyfriends who probably did some awful things to her.
Of course, this is not some kind of underhanded way of saying that all men are evil or bad, just that there are a lot of reasons to look at men and women and not just see two sexes, but also two seperate individuals.
I love to bring lunch and dinner to my husband when he’s at work. He loves having a hot meal served to him when he’s stressed out from working on his meal break.
I also love to prepare things for him and make his life easier if possible.
However, he loves to cook sometimes (especially steak!) and I love when he serves me with meals.
I say, whatever works to make both of you happy, healthy, and functional, do it!
I can honestly say, though, that anyone who takes the “perfect Stepford Wives” roles and fills them to a T will probably find themselves very disappointed, and their husbands will wonder what alien robot replaced his wife.
If you don’t like the person your wife is; get rid of her. Chances are, you’re both miserable.
Wow. I am thinking that she has spent quite a bit of his money to get all that useless junk and stack it up.
Why didn’t he tell her ‘No’?
This is what happens when you don’t place limits on a woman!
Older Men myself included I am now 50. Recall a US culture that was imperfect but Sane. What we have now is chaos. And an Engine to create a society full of future criminals and a permanent underclass. We have allowed a ******* led hate movement to destroy Family Life, murder a Billion children Worldwide. And now the US has 7 million people on parole, probation or in Prison. This is an explosion in our Criminal Justice system. Maybe the fantasy Movie “Escape From New York” is not too far off. We have removed Millions of Fathers from Families. Are medicating 20% of US School Boys with Kiddie Cocaine (Ritalin). The US consumes 85% of the World’s supply. And now the US Federal Government wants to screen all US Children for Mental Illness. These ******** have done enough damage.
I thought it was funny when I heard David Cross (a quite humorous comedian) talk about how women who get lip-jobs make their mouths look like a big red *******.
I can say I agree.
While I live in California, I would venture to say that most of the scary materialistic “*******” live more in the LA and southern areas of the state. Up in Northern and Mid-CA, you just have to watch out for the Neo-Hippies and the Vegans (yuck! I love my meat!)
As for me, I can safely say that my experiences with females is that it takes all types. If you go after “******* mouth”, don’t be surprised when you get thrown for a loop. This is not to say that “normal” women can’t be *******, but in my experience, there’s a lot more going on in the head of the intelligent woman than you would think; and most of them are just looking for someone who will enjoy life with them.
On the other hand, remember, it’s hardly fair to compare a society like the US to India. In the US, even if a man gets his money taken from him (usually due to benevolent-to-the-woman sexism on the judge’s part), he doesn’t have to suffer human rights violations.
Think about being forced to **** and *** in a small room with no windows or doors. Think about the humiliation of being treated like less than an animal for even a week, and you’ll see that it’s about as comparable as saying a hangnail is as excruciating as AIDS.
While the things done to men in divorce court are no fair, I can give you some anecdotal evidence that might cheer you up.
My husband’s mother just finally divorced her husband after 25 years of being verbally abused and dragged into debt.
Not only did the husband sit around and not do anything around the house, but he also bought very expensive things on his wife’s credit, causing them to go into horrible debt. Not only that, but he verbally and emotionally abused his son (my husband) and treated him like **** because he would rather be in the band than the football team.
After a long time, she finally left him, but he got the house, and most of the property. She also ended up having to pay for all the electricity and food for him to live because when he got a job, it didn’t pay much (even though he has a law degree, he could never pass the Bar exam because of fear that he would fail).
They didn’t officially divorce until last year (finally after much prodding from both my husband and myself, she had the strength to do it), and now she is not having her wages garnished anymore, but the IRS is still on her *** about back taxes (her husband did not file taxes while they were separated and this caused the IRS to come after HER instead).
Because my husband was 19 or so when they divorced, there was no child custody stuff, but he still got a good amount of money from her, as well as the house in the country with over 10 acres of land (and in CA, that’s a lot of money).
So, really, if you want to look at it; the one with the bigger income is the one that gets screwed.
So sometimes I think this is the main reason why women want to ’stay at home’ (stay at home and do what? sit on your ***?! I can clean the house and take care of things fine while also working!).
For some reason, I keep thinking of that movie “About a Boy” where the main character pretends to be a single dad and takes advantage of a bunch of single moms, but has casual *** with them and uses his invisible son as a reason to keep things casual.
It was pretty funny.
I think that it’s a good idea to be a “smart man” when looking for a relationship. Way too many people “settle” or go for someone who doesn’t measure up to what they want in a partner.
And I feel that perhaps “perfection” is less important than “fitting the requirements for the most rewarding relationship.” After all, part of a good relationship comes from being able to give each other space, to be able to grow and change together, and to accommodate all the things that need to be done for everyone to be happy.
Personally, there are at least four things you have to be in agreement before you tie the knot, and these things are:
1) ***
2) Religion
3) Politics
4) Money
If you can’t deal with vast differences in any of these areas, BEWARE! I find that testing someone out and seeing how they spend their money; how they budget, and how they save are very big indicators of how they’ll be in marriage. If you look at me, my biggest expenses are mostly groceries and gas for the car. The basics, if you will. I also have handy knowledge on how to take care of my car (my dad taught me a lot about how to fix and maintain cars), and the household while maximizing my time and money.
Being truly intelligent (ie: doing your research and inquiring before buying into something) is a very important thing in a spouse, and too many men and women are lacking in these qualities.
Plus, I always say that even if a man has lots of ***, it’s not necessarily good ***, even if he gets his rocks off. And if he’s stupid and doesn’t use protection, that’s even worse. He could get infected with a viral *** and then infect future partners, or even worse, infect his wife/future children with the disease because he’s having *** behind her back.
I would much rather a man be honest about philandering, than to be putting his family and his own life in danger.
After all, while I might be upset if I got cheated on, I would be much more upset if I also got infected with HIV or HPV or the like.
So men, be careful, cover up, and get regular screenings for your health and the health of your partners.
Why are you concerned about what men are wearing? Stop trying to define our masculinity for us and concentrate on one message.
Unless you are also castigating women for not dressing traditionally, you have no right to shame men for not dressing traditionally. Men should be able to wear whatever they want, the same way women are able to wear whatever they want.
Take a look at http://www.mens-links.net in the dress code section. Would you also say that a beard is an affront to your sense of taste?
Lee R, stop blaming the man. Nothing he could’ve done would’ve prevented this, and you all need to accept that “wherever there’s a woman’s failings, there’s a man behind it” is NOT TRUE.
If he had done ANYTHING, he would have been labeled controlling and abusive by that SAME troop of females and men. Logic does not enter into this.
Not in this nor any other lifetime…
“Unless you are also castigating women for not dressing traditionally, you have no right to shame men for not dressing traditionally.”
I have to agree, the article should have castigated women who do not dress traditionally. It’s not a perfect world though so give the author some slack, geez.
“Would you also say that a beard is an affront to your sense of taste?”
If it’s on a woman, yes. I always see many middle-aged women walking around the mall with their menopausal moustaches and trust me, that’s not a pretty sight.
“Additionally, without women’s rights, it would still be legal for a husband to **** his wife; and I don’t think that **** is good for anyone.”
When a woman marries a man, she is essentially consenting to ****** intercourse with said man, thus it’s impossible from a legal perspective to charge a husband with ****** his wife. These new laws regarding husbands being legally culpable for “****” of their wives are just assinine. It’s equivalent to the feminazi stormtroopers breaking into a husband and wife’s bedroom and violating one of the most sacred places — the marriage bed.
These new laws recently passed are just feminazi stormtroopers invading the sacredness of the marriage bed, and it’s now re-defined “marriage” from a legal perspective. It’s another reason why a man today should think long and hard before he ever invites the government and their feminazi stormtroopers into his bedroom. It’s almost getting to the point where a man will be better off and safer to grab a box of ******* and visit a prostitute. The feminists at N.O.W. are working diligently to legalize ************ everywhere in America, so once the feminists at NOW get ************ legalized everywhere in America then the marriage rate should plummet to near zero.
I am glad women are staying home and taking care of kids.
If I was married, I would have my wife do that.
Yes, the system nowadays is unfair for men, but f*** it, we are men, just deal with it, and make it better. The enemy is not the woman per say, but the system they grow up in. (yes they too are responsible, but women are just followers of modes and fashion, very few are independent and moral thinkers)
The ideal today is the **** or independent career woman, and actually i’m attracted to the **** type woman, who isn’t. No no on the career woman ick!! anyway,.. But, Ill be damn if i’ll marry her!! or let her have my children, or take care of her 2/3 kids with other men.
Again, Three Cheers for the house wife, who takes care of the kids, or the one who looks after the house, ((**ps. don’t get fat**))
but three cheers!!!
Now if Women want to be men, f*** it , let them.
If they want to be career women, or *****. let them. They will have there own hell to pay.
But to be honest, i’m not that cold. It would be best for them to find out what the essence of womanhood is, before their life wastes away, and they become crabby, bitter old hags.
As for us men, best to saddle up and be men.
On a final note, I would actually say that the reason there are such gender problems nowadays is because we have lost Christ.
“When a woman marries a man, she is essentially consenting to ****** intercourse with said man, thus it’s impossible from a legal perspective to charge a husband with ****** his wife. These new laws regarding husbands being legally culpable for “****” of their wives are just assinine. It’s equivalent to the feminazi stormtroopers breaking into a husband and wife’s bedroom and violating one of the most sacred places — the marriage bed.”
She may be consenting to be with the man for the rest of his life, but I don’t believe any of the marriage vows includes “*** whenever husband wants it.”
If you look at the overwhelming majority of **** statistics, **** occurs between people who know each other well, and less than 9% of all accused rapists go to jail or suffer any recourse for their actions.
To say that once you get married that your body belongs to someone else regardless of what you want is awful. Let’s say that you’re tired and don’t want ***. Maybe you have the stomach flu or something. And your wife suddenly pushes you down and tries to have her way with you. Or maybe you’re sleeping but you have an erection, and you wake up to wifey on top of you doing what she wants to get off. For some people this is not an erotic surprise, it feels like you’re being used, and it’s especially not fun if you’re female and your husband rapes you often because he wants children but you don’t.
I can’t speak for all relationships, but there are a lot of idiots out there who get themselves into bad relationships that make me shudder to think about.
Even if I am happy or have a good relationship and never have to worry about being ***** by my husband, it doesn’t make it universally true.
Bottom line, your body should never belong to another person to be taken advantage of; no matter what your gender is.
There are still laws out there in a few states that makes a woman the PROPERTY of her husband after marriage (i.e. not considered a person with full human rights) simply due to her ***.
While I don’t agree with “bull-femnazi-laws”, I do think that basic ideas such as the freedom not to have one’s body used (regardless of gender) by another person without consent under any circumstances is a good idea.
After all, just look at the **** that gets done to people in other countries without human rights laws. Women murdered/disfigured/beaten within an inch of their lives for looking at a male person. Men who are killed for saying something flattering to a woman by a jealous or offended husband/father/brother.
Bottom line is, being in a situation where someone does something to you that you do not want done to you, even though you’re in a committed relationship, is still bad. If anything it hurts worse to be taken advantage of by someone who you care for because there’s a lot of trust there that gets broken.
And, as we can see when it comes to **** laws and other laws of the ilk, it pretty much does nothing for convictions anyway. But for the sane, average, and intelligent man, it does give one pause to deter oneself from behaviors that may lead to hurting the very one person that they love.
And don’t worry, guys, this stuff goes for women too. Women who take advantage of their husbands or significant others, are just as much scum in my book who should be prosecuted and punished every bit as much as male offenders.
First of all, I don’t think of most women as “feminists”.
I think of them as women who have taken on a warped sense of female machismo.
If you look at the main “roles” that are available for males, they are all dysfunctional and lack strong actual males in society to emulate.
Brad Pitt and other “hollywood hunks”? No thanks. He’s just a pretty-boy.
Rappers? You mean the guys who advocate killing people for stupid
reasons and have rampant egos/materialistic greed?
Athletes? Athletes are being brought up for “scandals” all the time, and you hardly ever see big, household names come out of football, baseball, or basketball anymore. There is so much of a flood of people changing teams and moving around, it’s quite a problem to get a fix on any one “big star” to want to emulate.
Most male gender roles have to do with a false sense of hypermasculinism that doesn’t exist in real life. Most males go through a period of intense loneliness and pain because they lack strong *REAL* male role-models to emulate and therefore resort back to a fake sense of masculine that is portrayed in WWF wrestling and other such shows/events.
While female roles have been significantly lessened in effect and rigidity, male gender roles have continued to be largely the same (except perhaps the lessening on the taboo of “girly” or “emo” boys through the “counter culture” shown through certain new rock groups and stores like “Hot Topic”).
Now look at female roles:
Barbie and the like: ****, and yet fake and sexless, materialistic, super self-absorbed. Her self worth is so packaged up in consumer culture, it’s sickening
Mother: Even before girls have any concept of having a husband or ****** attraction, they are encouraged to become mommies, and raise a bunch of babies. The thousands of dolls out on the market and the play sets that depict fake households specifically marketed to young girls attest to this fact. However, even if the girl is taught how to be a mother to her children, she is not really taught much about being a wife to a husband beyond the superficials like “how was your day, honey” and the like.
A girl is taught that her husband is basically financial support and will give her babies, not that her husband is going to be an actual person, and there will be ****** issues and personal relationship issues therein. Not very helpful, if you ask me.
****/*****: This is the “bad” girl, who has *** with all kinds of men, and loves the attention and meaning it gives to her life. Men love her and hate her because they love the fact that they get her, but they hate the fact that others get to have her as well. She tends to be shallow, self-absorbed, and attractive to some extent (otherwise, how could she be an effective ****?). Many girls who dress up like this do so to get a reaction; to deal with sexuality, as it’s not addressed in the above roles of mother or Barbie-esque person.
In fact, proper sexuality and ****** displays are always flip-flopped. It’s good to be **** as a woman (and not “get fat”) but it’s also WHORISH to be ****. It’s good for a woman to be pure, but pure tends to be plain and “frumpy”, thereby killing half her femininity because femininity is considered to need “sexiness”.
While these above roles have been changed around a lot because of the whole “women can do what men do too!”, it’s also given women this sense that they should take on the machismo role that men fall into; becoming sexists themselves.
You know about the women who want MORE rights than men? The ones who want to “take advantage” of men and make them second class citizens?
These women are the product of a culture where women are increasingly taking on the role of “hypermasculine woman.” While, as you can see, it’s pretty harmful to males to encompass this role, it’s even more noticeable when a woman does it, and it is both terrible and wrong.
Instead of talking about how “bad” American women are as a group, it’s more important to see how our messed up ideals of gender roles, mixed in with puritanical gobble-de-gook and otherwise stagnated values as to what we should all be doing in our personal lives, and try to figure out what the heck we should do about it together.
It’s not just women’s problems; it’s everyone’s problems. Walking around saying that women should be turned into doormats and submissive wife/**** mixes is doing nothing for the reality of our country and our culture. If anything, you have proven on this website that doormats of any gender are not fun to be in a relationship with nor are they fun to be around at all.
In the end, this issue is much more difficult than simply “blame it on the femnazis” or “blame it on X group over there”.
We’re all part of this place together, and to deny any responsibility of the problems that we face are part of our American culture as a whole is not exactly helping.
And personally, I think a lot of the problems therein are due to the liberalization of Christianity, and the fact that if you’re not a fundamentalist Christian, you shouldn’t really bother calling yourself as such. Christianity is, in effect, not a peaceful and loving religion, and to try and use it in a way to promote tolerance or equality of races/sexes is ridiculous. There are LITERAL PASSAGES in the bible that say that non Christians and women should be treated like subhumans. There are all kinds of passages that talk about destroying people who don’t believe if they won’t convert and manhandling other cultures into submission. It talks about everyone being pushed into thankless roles for the benefit of an unknown “plan” by an uninvolved Creator, and it talks about how everyone should be mostly unhappy, because the more unhappy you are, the better Christian you are, and the most unhappy that you make anyone who opposes Christianity, the more likely you are to go to Heaven.
But remember, the more you destroy the freedom of others to choose their actions and roles in life, the more you trap yourself in similarly unfulfilling roles.
Whos been taking pics of my house
I thought I had a unique wife
No one should live with a house like that.
There is, however, no “they.” To assume all women are one homogeneous mass who are all exactly the same is to say the same for men. Ridiculous.
People are people. Individuals. *** aside, people have varying levels of respect for each other.
This woman obviously had little respect for herself.
This: “Again the hypocrisy and double standards come to surface. If a woman dumps a man over drinking too much she made a smart move. Again no one really likes a spouse who is drunk all the time. If a man dumps a woman for filling up his home with garbage (after 5 years of trying to help her OCD, and the wife is refusing treatment) he is a scumbag for doing so.”
Is not the opinion of everyone. Nor should it be conveyed as such. It is the hypocrisy of some. Not all. And probably not most.
I don’t think he is a scumbag. I think it is awful that he should have had to live with that.
“You just have to find the good ones they say. Have faith. So why then is it getting easier and easier to flush out the bad ones?”
I know women who feel similarly about men. Do I think that they are right? No. There are a lot of good guys out there.
Generalizations are silly and frequently inaccurate.
This type of “analysis” reminds me of horoscopes. Hooey.
This afternoon, I was helping out one of my young waitresses find herself an apartment. Now, I was just being a friend, and giving her advice, and she was just sucking it up. I guess, I was being a father figure she never had, and it was all good. It just makes me wonder if, women now days, because of broken families, really don’t have much good advice given to them. They aren’t nurtured with love, so they rely then on power playing.
My point,
I’m not excusing women for being tramps or what not. But, I see a deep correlation between how they are brought up, and what they become.
If a woman, or young woman was truly loved, and she felt it down in her bones, she would not aim at being a cold-hearted *****.
Problem is, now days women don’t know how to respond to that, and from what I’ve seen of some strippers that I know, is that they think when a guy is kind, or good to them, it is a sign of weakness.
And instead aim for the abusive boyfriend. That is until about the age of 30 or so, and then they wake up.
A quick digression, women, even strippers per say aka Britney spear type, are at best ‘nice’ but they are not Good. Goodness implies a transcendent standard.
*** men are “nice” too, but again like the ho’, they are not ‘Good”
Regardless of what women and **** do, my advice to men is, not to think or act or respond to them in they way they play the game. But rather, to take the high road, the nobler one, and be a GOOD man, a GOOD father, and a GOOD boss. It builds a foundation on which all relationships can last.
Seems like a lot of this **** is going around. Hell, even Miss USA and the ex-Miss Nevada can’t even have morals, and we expect common lay women to have them? LOL!
She planned with great forethought and executed the cold-blooded murder of her Marine husband, but many in America will never hear of this woman and what she did because she is an unremorseful killer who happens to be a woman.
This woman executed her murder in the state of California, the same state that Scott Peterson killed his wife, but Scott Peterson was sentenced to die for killing his wife. She only gets life in prison. Scott Peterson was made a household name around the globe for his dastardly deed, this woman’s evil is buried on the backpage. The nightly news in America did 1000’s of updates on the Scott Peterson case, while they remain virtually silent on this female killer’s case.
This is what you call spreading a massive lie across America — the lie being that only men commit evil, because when women commit the same evil, you will rarely hear about it unless you dig through the back pages and the internet. The issue isn’t about women or men being evil and committing evil deeds, the issue is that women who commit evil deeds are quietly swept under the rug and if/when they do get punished for their evil deeds they never receive punishment even close to what a man would receive for doing the same evil act.
Has anyone heard about the case of the pastor’s wife who shot her husband dead in Tennessee about a year ago? Nope, nothing in the news. The last I heard about 3 months ago, is that she was out of jail on bond and working at a dry-cleaners while she awaits trial. Imagine that, a woman murders her husband by shooting him in the back and the back of his head, and then she gets out of jail on bond to work at a dry-cleaners.
This home is an analogy for her. The outside looks normal and no one would suspect the turmoil that lies withing. Don’t walk, RUN away from this woman..!!!
Many women are like this. They act all sweet and innocent and NORMAL ( and often pretty) on the outside. But if you could see inside of them you would shreek in horror…
I work in sales and visit peopel in their homes for a living. This is more common than one might think and upheaval in marriage is the rule of the day.
this is just a true sign of a sicko. if it was me i would GIVE everything away.
I agree with this all except the part regarding women in the Israeli army:
“The last thing a woman wants to do is what women do in the Israeli Army, which is, time to go to war. Don’t kid yourself, the Israeli women don’t do all these things because they want to, their draft is not volunteer.”
I just came back from a 2 week business trip in Israel and I got a chance to talk to a lot of former Israeli pilots (actually they are active reserved for 10 years), and, while they have compulsory military service, and women serve with men in the military, it is largely a smoke screen. The feminist movement in Israel is as, if not more, organized and militant than here in the U.S. Israeli female military personnel are used in non combat areas like, customs, border control, passport control in the airports, and other menial non combat security positions (like in the malls). It’s the men who actually go and pick up a weapon and do the actual combat thing.
My biggest beef with women in the military would be having to serve under a woman. That’s not right. What if I were in the military and I had a female sergeant or leader above me? It’s humiliating for men to take orders from a woman who is in a position in power above him. That is why I think women should not be in the military, except as nurses, and I think they should not be allowed to be in government at all, except being allowed to vote.
I agree. Women should never be in charge over men.
They don’t earn their way.
There is an episode of Star trek where Kirk and Spock wind up on a planet that has been at war with another planet in the same solar system but instead of actually blowing each other up the war is run on a computer simulation and then the so called casualties are expected to politely report to a vaporization chamber for destruction. This way the society and technology can keep evolving and the species continues to exist. Women on our planet would have to report in the millions for summary vaporization to account for all the blood men have spilled protecting them before we could have true equality. So yea I agree With Mr. Simmons.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. To quote the malignant and destructive alien machine who thought Captain Kirk was it’s creator, women are “a mass of conflicting impulses.” Gene Rodenberry never knew just how unwittingly he described the modern female.
My best friend who was in the Rangers, combat medic, told me about women in the military. The special privileges they get, yet cry because that is even to hard for them, then they cry because they are not seen as equals at the same time.
In combat situations it would be a catastrophe. Aw would shoot all our men and drag them to the enemy. Aw are natural born killers. They are more barbaric then being in the middle of a swarm of mad hornets while covered in honey. An Aw has proven to be able to kill the ones who are closest to her, husband, boyfriend, her own children, with absolutely no remorse or conscience at all.
To John:
“The ideal today is the **** or independent career woman, and actually i’m attracted to the **** type woman, who isn’t. No no on the career woman ick!! anyway,.. But, Ill be damn if i’ll marry her!! or let her have my children, or take care of her 2/3 kids with other men.”
You do love generalizing, don’t you. I bet you also love murdering the English language with your inane posts. Just for the record, I don’t know any career women who have 2/3 kids, or any woman that has 2/3 of a kid. That would be kind of strange. I’m thinking you’re just scared of the “independent career woman” because of her independence. If you look around, there aren’t that many women that stay at home with kids compared to over 40 years ago. Good for you if you want a woman you can dominate over and make her take care of the kids for you while you sit back and watch football. I, for one, would want to marry a woman like my mother – strong, independent, but still a caring mom.
I agree. I think criminals, no matter who they are, should get equal coverage. If you do something bad, one should get his/her deserved punishment. None of this going easy stuff.
The only reason why it’s easy to flush out “bad” women and “bad” men is because they take up so much space and attention. Let’s face it: good people just aren’t that interesting. Unfortunate, but it makes the hunt for a good partner in life to be worthwhile at least.
What is so bad about women being in charge over men in the military or the government?
In the government, if a woman has earned her way there like Nancy Pelosi, then she should be there. What would make this world better is not setting limits on what women could do, but make jobs/positions be merit-based for qualification. Unfortunately, a lot of humans don’t have that kind of intelligence, some of you guys here included.
True. The divorce laws need to be revamped a little. However, not every divorce is the same, and percentages are only a generalization of data collected.
Of course, Rev. Porkchops is “infallible.” Denying the right to choose government representatives, who represent EVERYONE in the nation, to roughly half the nation’s population would make the world a better place. Good job on figuring that one out. Don’t know if you’d feel the same were us men in women’s shoes. Your little brain probably couldn’t comprehend it. Logic must be too much for you.
(Yes, my personal pet peeve is people who generalize on a daily basis without thinking and blame what’s wrong in the world on one thing they don’t like because of bitterness. Complainers are a pain in the @ss. I have no mercy or patience for stupid people like that. I agree that radical feminism is bad, but so is unheeded and radical masculism. Gender egalitarianism is the way to go. If you don’t like the way society is headed because you can’t stand men and women striving for equality, I strongly suggest you move to mainland China. They love them some inequality.)
Khankrum, as for your argument, from where do you get your astounding pieces of evidence? I think someone has a little obsession with hyperbole.
All right, sue me for commenting twice, but I had to comment on Beartrap’s argument at the bottom of the post. The reason why obesity has climbed is not because of women in the workforce. It’s because of bad choices and men not learning how to do anything to take up their share of the burden. Take this story for example. I had a female coworker who had two sons. She also did the traditional motherly things like laundry and cooking, etc. One night, she worked overtime, thinking that the kids and husband would find some way to feed themselves. After all, it was just one night. No. She came home at 9 to find them all huddled around the TV and complaining about no food. This is the type of people I hate. They see a problem but don’t do anything to find a solution. Could they have maybe called in a pizza? Could someone have taught them how to cook so something like that would not happen? The answer is yes.
Even now, women who do the traditional stay-at-home thing don’t necessarily have thinner, healthier kids. It’s the foods that one CHOOSES to eat, not the lack of time to eat healthful foods. Also, Americans increasingly have a sedentary lifestyle because of the invention and easy access of electronics and kids entertaining themselves, regardless of whether their moms are working or staying at home. Life wasn’t always peachy in the “good old days”. We’re just looking at the past through what we know of it, surgically attaching the rose-colored glasses to our face as we do so. Men who correlate the degeneration of society with women being liberated to go out and make their own money are just Mama’s boys who don’t know how to do things for themselves. Pathetic.
I feel sorry for that poor guy. Any woman who accuses him of not helping her is just as crazy as the wife in my book.
I’m sorry for all the men who fall for women like her. I get the feeling I’m one of the few “sane” women in this world, unfortunately. The other members of my *** that are detestable tend to grab more attention than people like me. (This is not to say I am submissive or traditional in any way. I’m just not as super-emotional or contradictory as a lot of other women I see. Maybe this is why the women friends I have are a lot like me.)
The toy aisle scares me too. I would never buy dolls like that for my daughters, if I have any. Horses are better, and Legos are best. (Man, I loved Legos. Yes, I was a bit of a tomboy…so what?)
I think Shauna says it the best. The rest of you just want a scapegoat.
I agree. The hush-hush treatment of female criminals is unfair. If you’re a criminal, you’re a criminal. It’s only equal.
The divorce laws do need to be reformed a little, if only because of those women who use it to their advantage. They make me sick.
Some of the arguments in the comments are scary. (i.e. John) It’s true, though, that those women who do not freely choose to be stay-at-homers (and even some who do) can be pretty scary. I think it’s their personality (the ones who choose to be stay-at-home) that make them act so crazily. They can’t and don’t like to work under anyone else, so they make others listen to them. The ones who are forced to stay-at-home – most likely, they are unhappy and act out their frustration. People just need to figure out what works best for them.
p.s. – to John: not all career women have 2/3 kids. (I don’t know of any person who has 2/3 of a kid. Career women, or “b*tches” as you call them, are not that bad. I don’t know what you have against them. Fear, perhaps?)
If someone has earned the right to be in a governmental position, then let him/her be there. Methinks the appointment of Nancy Pelosi does not make you happy. Same goes for the military. Like the post said, don’t shame them. Be proud of what they are doing for you – protecting the country so that you can still have free speech and such to say things like this on the Internet.
All right, I’ll make my comment less fiery if it will get me heard.
This is why more women should go into the workforce and find ways to stay there. This is why girls should not be taught to only look forward to mooching off the husband’s money when older while lazing around the house with the kids. Sure, not all stay-at-home moms are that mercenary, but some definitely are. They don’t want to go out and work for their own money that they can spend themselves without driving the husband insane. This is why encouraging women to stay at home is just making the problem worse. (Sorry to burst your bubble, John.)
Yes, a lot of women buy into herd mentality, but a lot of men do too. It’s natural for our instincts to follow the pack. Those who refuse and think for themselves are smarter. This goes for both women and men, Curiepoint. (However, I agree that men’s health needs to be more widely advertised. No wonder men fear going to the doctor – no one’s talking about their problems, so why should they be the first one? I admit I’m reluctant to go too.)
Ok not all women stick together, he should have dumped her ages ago
One of the preparations you should make for making Valentine’s Day your Independence Day – is get yourself a Singelringen. What is it? A ring from Sweden that is apparently being worn by singles all over the world to say – I’m single, I like it. Wear it on your right hand (sorry doesn’t cover up the tan mark on your wedding ring finger. Or put it on a chain around your neck – and get yourself out there! It totally works for me.
First, let me say, I’m a new reader. I love the site. Keep up the good work! I recently dumped my girlfriend of two years after she started putting the pressure on me to get married and end my life of happiness.
The whole article about boycotting Valentines day is great. I hate this holiday. It such a scam. Wal-Mart has two damn isles devoted to this holiday.
Last years valentines day with my now ex-girlfriend was a disaster. I spent damn good money on flowers that died within a week, a gift, a nice dinner, and a romantic card with something special written inside by yours truly (and yes, I wrote it myself!). In the end, I got the short end of the stick.
It seems like as a single guy, everywhere I go, I’m reminded of the fact that I am single. This evening, Dr. Neil Clark was on TV advertising E-Harmony.com and telling me that I need to “log on” to his site to take his free 8-million point personality test. Where the hell did this guy come from? I mean, one day, this man just appeared out of thin air and was on TV promoting his dating website.
So where did he come from? The answer is simple: A freak genetic engineering accident. Check out my startling scientific results: Orvill Redenbacher + Don Knotts = Neil Clark.
The whole fact that women wish that guys would blow all their entire paycheck on them is just pissing guys off around the world. They need to be happy with a card, and a simple gift. And give us a break the next time we forget to put the toilet seat back down.
Again, thank you so much for the great site. I am forwarding this site to all my friends that have had it with dating and guys who are unhappily married (including my mom and dad).
I will embrace Valentine’s Day with Enthusiasm when Steak and ******** Day is celebrated equally by the “Fair ***”. The average expenditure for women in the US is nearing $400 and the males less than $40. This is what women think of as equality. Nuts to that garbage. This is being heavily promoted by Merchants, Jewelers, Florists, Gift Card Companies, The Confectionary Industry etc. Of course the Restaurant Industry loves it. Men dispise it, as it is Legal ************. Don’t give enough… you sleep on the couch. And your needs? Are an afterthought.
Mary Winker was caught on camera partying at a bar. The wife of a minister who shot him in the back with a shotgun. She squandered their money on a Nigerian Get Rich Quick scheme scam. Can you say greedy idiot? Yes we also had yesterday an astronaut (female). A forty something married mother of three. Who drove from Houston Texas to Florida, with the intention of kidnapping another female rival for the attention of a male astronaut.
She is being held without bond. And faces life in prison for attempted kidnapping. This has become common behavior. And we have another woman jailed for killing her husband for an insurance payoff.
Well, i came across this article and absolutely agree with it…however, I am female…..I dread this Valentines day because I was recently divorced last April….now this day used to be my most favorite day ever…not because I received jewelery, or anything…for that matter, I would always go purchase gifts…take HIM out to dinner or make him a dinner and a very special dessert that included me afterwards…he had no complaints ever…it was always “i’m sorry that i didn’t get you anything” and I always responded that it was okay…17 years of this…17 years…..I kissed HIS ***…..I also babied my two chidren on this day as well (more than usual it was like another Christmas)…so live and learn gentleman…i really don’t blame you at all…i guess I either didn’t deserve anything…or he just wasn’t “into it”….oh well…as far as I’m concerned **** VALENTINES DAY AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT!!!!!!
Bah. Valentines’ Day. I just like buying candy for myself. (Don’t tell the dentist!)
Being single rocks. (I don’t watch much TV either, so no stupid commercials for me!)
It is important to note that the mainstream media bends over backwards to “understand” and “explain” acts of murderous horror committed by middle-class women, but not those of middle-class men.
Why? The mainstream media’s audience, the people the ads are aimed at, are middle-class women.
When that crazy mom in Texas, Andrea Yates, drowned all her children, female media commentators talked themselves hoarse about how understandable it was that a mom with five kids could just “snap,” and how “we’ve all come close,” etc. She commits mass murder, and because she is a surrogate for the television audience, she pretty much gets a pass. But when a black man (or for that matter any man) commits heinous crimes, all the talk is about tougher penalties.
So a woman who kills is “just like you and me,” but a man who kills is an animal who should be put down.
It all goes back to who’s spending the money that rewards the advertisers that support the media outlets: middle-class women.
“ALWAYS serve fresh orange juice for him at breakfast”. And Ms. Angel further states that “only whores use frozen.”
This is priceless…
Holy cow, why do women always feel the need to chime in with the “i’m not like that” response?
Of course, you’re not like that. You don’t understand what is being said here and invidual actions don’t make up for the failure of the SYSTEM.
So to put it succinctly, most men reading this could give two ***** about your personal anecdotes about how you aren’t like that when we know that you are entitled to be like that due to the corruption in our government, family courts and culture.
First off, ingrid, when more then 70% of divorces are initiated by the western female AND the western female is awarded child custody 9 TIMES OUT OF 10…it is oficially safe to lump all western females in the same category. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies like a duck…it must be a wombat, eh ingrid?
Western men must be aware that the mindset (propaganda?) that ingrid puts forth is the ambiguity that western females thrive in. The western female swims in your good faith, as there it finds the happy hunting ground. Give it the benefit of the doubt, and you will pay the price.
Second, the wife in the above story is clearly creating a hostile environment for the husband in the hopes he will simply up and leave. Thus granting the parasite wife the house and alimony under the guise of “abandonment”.
He married it, so he deserves what he gets.
“I have lived with my boyfriend for eight years. We share everything, but he will not take that last step and get married. If something was to happen to him today, I would be out in the cold. I have helped him establish a home, fixed it up, and take care of it, but my name is nowhere on anything.”
I thought that is what a will and/or life insurance is for.
These guys are right, the financial and legal liabilities of marriage have become too significant and one sided to ignore. Besides marriage is suppose to be an essentially religious construct between to individuals and the god(s) of their choice. And the government has no business meddling with religion in the first place. The government should only be able to issue ‘civil unions’ that two individuals can enter into so that they may gain certain legal rights or responsibilities. Until the government butts out of marriage I see no reason to voluntarily accept the potentially catastrophic liabilities that come along with it.
I don’t know if any of you remember but there was a story about this kid who murdered his girlfriend. Seems he was a millionaire from a disfiguring accident as a child and his face was messed up. Anyway, the white guy hooks up with a black girl and she is from a righteous religious family; so its said (I’ve met a lot of such righteous in my time). Anyway, they have a romance and voila- she ‘becomes’ pregnant (at least that was the story). The tv story defends this ***** by saying she approached her boyfriend about the pregnancy and he wanted her to have an abortion (he may have wanted that indeed). Anyway, she winds up dead and he goes to jail.
As it turns out he did the deed but as it turns out also she ain’t pregnant. I’ll just bet she knew that she wasn’t pregnant but this righteous religious hypocrite saw the ‘deep pocket’ and what the hell, sins can be forgiven so what’s a little ha ha ‘white’ lie. The tv show didn’t even hint of that being a possibility and there was no sympathy for ‘a crime of passion’ like there probably would be for a woman especially with anything involving kids. All I can say is this is one screwed-up double standard society.
Hey Ed: Too bad she couldn’t be as obsessive about ***,eh?
This is standard fare for the military especially the Marine Corps or Army. The problem is that you ship millions of males to the same area with an extremely limited supply of females. The results are of course horrific. Young guys around 18 or 19 marrying some washed up stripper with 3 kids who ***** everyone in sight and whores hereself out all while emptying her new suckers bank account while he’s away. I’ve seen the same story play it’s self out over and over again.
The problem is supply and demand. There is a very low supply of women and a high demand for them (remember most people in the military are horny young guys) the results are trainwrecks like this one.
OCD my ***…..this isn’t obsessive compulsive disorder…what this IS, is plain laziness….his only fault is not having her get up off her lazy *** and making her clean up this ****. I am not a ******* or a woman hater or a man hater for that matter…I was married for 17 years and my ex-husband never, ever had to come home to a dirty house…this was while I was working 8 hours a day…working out at least 2 1/2 hours a day it still remained clean…..there isn’t any excuses…just lazy ******* not wanting to be clean….it’s disgusitng…my sister “suffers” from this same disorder…and she wants to get married…please….i wouldn’t wish this on anybody…..men…take care of what kind of person you date…women you do the same….either *** can be lazy and sloppy….but why?
“Gender egalitarianism is the way to go. If you don’t like the way society is headed because you can’t stand men and women striving for equality, I strongly suggest you move to mainland China. They love them some inequality.”
Finally the voice of reason. The problem is that people tend to at least listen to radical feminists or even moderate feminists while totally ignoring the systematic discrimination in our legal system towards men. If a woman complains about the “glass ceiling” in her workplace people take note.
But if a man complains that marriage laws, child support laws, abortion laws, abandonment laws, the retirement age, ****** harassment laws, attitudes about violence, parent leave regulations, etc. are sexist and discriminate against him; then people either look at him like he’s crazy or make light of the situation. Sexism both towards men and women is a equal opportunity oppressor. But society as a whole doesn’t seem to understand that.
I have the same thing to say about Valentine’s Day that I do about Christmas, Bah Humbug! Both are so shamelessly commercialized, the real meaning and spirit of these days has been lost forever. Taking your lady out for a nice dinner and a movie yes, but buying her diamonds every year? No way! The companies Gemisis and Apollo are a man’s and his wallet’s best friend. Gem quality, man-made diamonds that can only be spotted by an expert or a special machine are here, now. Imagine, a yellow 5 carat diamond made to order, LOL…….then telling her, it did not form 200 miles down inside the Earth’s mantle, it came from a lab and was made to order, right down to the exact color. As for our culture and government, they’re done for. They’re in a death dive from which there will be no recovery, it’s just a matter of time before our society collapses and another one takes it’s place.
Thanks for the great post. I never even finished watching the first video it was so embarrassing and shocking. Loved the extra information. The women has ended up just another money and celebrity driven *****!
The first time I saw a clip of this woman on Jimmy Kimmel, I thought for sure she was just some actress they’d hired and it was all a big put-on. But she’s just so far out there that if you’d set out to invent someone like this you probably couldn’t come this close.
See, what I want to know is, what the hell kind of a guy marries a woman like that?
PS…Dang! I just watched the Jay Leno clip! It took me a minute to realize that that was Roseanne Barr sitting next to her on the couch! Wow, Jay actually managed to find the one other woman on the planet who’s more ****** up than Marguerite Perrin! Even Roseanne seems to be astonished that there actually is a woman out there who’s more of a head case than she is!
Incorrect my small-minded selfish child thinking female nazi friend(s):
MEN ARE THE SCAPEGOAT
PERIOD
Justice……
the only reason the gov’t “butted” into marriage (1850’s USA) was to prevent black men from marrying white women.
Another moronic gov’t intervention that with the aid of income tax and ever expanding gov’ts has led to the sh*thole were in.
man commits crime does 10 times the time
woman commits crime = mans fault for driving her to it…….
today’s modern man is to moronic to understand this simple concept:
Equal rights = Equal responsiblity
Laziness? Nope.
OCD? Yup + a hidden desire to be in control – thus “not letting” the garbage pile in the house “control her.”
Simple psychology.
I have been married to my Mexican wife for over 30 years. When we married, there was no engagement ring, and she bought her own wedding ring.
It was a second marriage. She ordered a nice floor length dress from J.C.Penney’s. When it came, it had a bad seam. She didn’t have time to exchange it, so she tacked that seam, and we got married.
After the wedding, she concluded she didn’t want to keep a dress that was defective. And, she didn’t want to exchange it and keep a dress she didn’t wear to get married in.
So, she sent the dress back and got her money back. Hey, this really happened. I’m not making it up.
On Valentine’s day, we do a hat trick of some sort. The best things in life are free.
Sorry to rub it in, guys. But, foreign wives are the best, if you are smarter than a rock.
Women should not be in power until the number of women dying in defense of this nation is equal to the number of men who have died defending this nation. You women always talk about how women should be in power, but don’t want any of the bad stuff men do.
Good job, Chuckzul, I was going to comment that it isn’t true women in Israel are in combat, except by accident. Read the WEAK LINK, which tells they tried it, and casualty rate went way up, so they no longer do it.
I had a buddy once who said if it weren’t for ***, we men would marry our fishing buddies. People we enjoyed being with, who know when to be quiet.
I know of two such women. Or, knew.
In the 80’s, I worked with a man. We went to his little acreage to buy some plants or something. The place, and the barn which was his refuge was spotless, but he did not invite us into the house.
A friend was invited in, and said the trash was approximately waist high, with only narrow walk ways from door to door. Opened cans of fruit sat on cabinets, covered with mold. She would not let a single thing be tossed out.
Any man who acted like that would be forced out of his own home, and would end up sleeping under a bridge in -30 degree weather. Since it’s a Goddess/woman, she gets supported by a man’s work.
The second example I never saw. A distant cousin was working on family genealogy, and discovered the old family bible had been in the possession of a certain woman, who died probably in the 50’s. He contacted the man who was at that time estate administrator for that city in Minnesota, who told him it was not possible to properly dispose of her possessions, because when he went in after she died, the place was filled with trash.
They brought in the dump trucks and men with shovels, and if anything good such as a family bible was in that mess, it was not practical to locate it in the mess.
Nonsense to the women who order us not to stereotype women as all bad. Intelligent men MUST view all women as bad, because it is not possible to tell the majority of freaks from the few decent women. If we pick the wrong one, we are destroyed.
If you women would police other women, that is, demand they be punished when they commit adultery or do acts of violence, or mistreat their men, we could afford to take a chance.
You never do that. You sit, totally ignoring the evils done by women, and wait for men to criticize the fiends, then you verbally attack the men and tell us just how we are supposed to act and think. Enough already of your nonsense.
Damn! Are they allowed to post that picture of my ex-wife on the Internet without her kid’s authorization?
So many women are simply into TRAPPING men into marriage, getting pregnant & then switching into a “MOMMY MODE” with you as the virile male left to your own devices… *** is so far removed from her mind that you may as well go out & find poon elsewhere… So mommy mode lasts until they kids are grown & gone… Then you can COUNT ON a divorce within 1-2 years after that.
The last 5 years of my marriage, it was *** about 7 or 8 times… I can so relate… Marriage… There’s nothing in it for men… Save all your money that you would have spent on that diamond ring… Buy YOURSELF something nice instead… Take a vacation without her… There’s plenty of single women vacationing too that you can hook up with… Vacation *** after all does not count (in the mind of a woman).
************, while still illegal in most parts of America, is nonetheless already practiced almost everywhere in America. Trust me, the young ladies at the truck stops across America, going from truck to truck, are not selling the truckers girl-scout cookies. Since ************ is already widely practiced all over America, M. Hunter’s comments are nothing more than wishful thinking. He paints his own utopia while being completely oblivious to the reality that ************ is readily available across America, and yet we see none of the supposed utopian benefits that M. Hunter claims will result. The only thing legalizing ************ will accomplish, is lowering the price, and not by much, if any at all. Also, M Hunter forgets to mention the downside of legalizing ************, which is where a man gets so used to paying for the company of women, that when he doesn’t pay for a woman all he can do is stutter and mutter like a foolish idiot before her, because he doesn’t know how to relate to the opposite *** in any other way than “how much?”. Lastly, if you are a man and you agree with the man-hating feminists at NOW that ************ should be legalized, I think that should raise some red flags in the ol’ tinker upstairs, if the ol’ tinker is still working anyways. They don’t call ‘em “man-hating” for nothing, and the man-haters want to legalize ************ so they can destroy men in America by making as many men as possible bumbling idiots unable to relate to the opposite *** in any other fashion than “how much b*tch?”. If that kind of life appeals to you, good luck with that. Myself, I aspire to a more full life, but to each their own.
I learned a valuable lesson for a lifetime when I was in my late teens-early 20’s. I dated a girl who used *** to get whatever she wanted from me. Just once! Once this happened I immediately started my way down the road of not falling for it. She was from a very prominent family in TX and she demanded I take her to a formal dinner, and to buy her a bracelet. I couldn’t afford this at the time, but she didn’t care about this, or even me, it was ALL about HER. She embarrassed me in front of the jeweler so badly that he remembered me when I came back. I knew she would dump me if I didn’t get the bracelet, so I went back to see if I could get it on “payments” he did me one better, he said I’ll loan it to you with a returnable deposit. I then proceeded to dump her, call her best friend and took her to the dinner. This was bad enough for her, but when she saw the very bracelet on her friend she went batsh!t, and was escorted out of the ballroom. I returned the bracelet the next day and the jeweler asked how it went, “like a charm”. Long story short, if a woman even hints about holding/using *** dump her on the spot. Once women have their only tool taken from them, they have no options but to play nice. Just don’t give in when they offer *** and see the confused look on their faces. It’s priceless!
Exactly right – when you take away their ***** power, you take away ALL of the power of the modern American woman. And that’s a good thing.
“Exactly right – when you take away their ***** power, you take away ALL of the power of the modern American woman. And that’s a good thing.”
I learned this lesson 20+ years ago and it’s made my life so much better. I only date woMEn between 21-26, they show the funniest looks when their “sexuality” doesn’t influence me because they know I’m not ***. They don’t have power over me, and they know it.
I read a post that woMEn have power over men via ***, and men have power over woMEn via commitment, this is very true!. I stayed single and in power my entire life, no way was I going to let a woman take that or anything else away from me.
Fellas, just remember she’s not the only one with power, as long as you have the commitment card, you’ll win out.
she’s still better than the one I have…hang in there man.
Hah! So much for matchmakers and **** like that.
Seriously, when it comes to relationships, nothing is better than good old “DIY” and a lot of time casually knowing one another before jumping into marriage.
And people wonder why marriage and the state of relationships are in the *******.
If we can’t even choose our mates with the highest standards in place, how can we ever hope to be happy?
You need a healthy amount of self esteem and self worth before you even think about getting into a healthy relationship.
I really wish that so many other women weren’t such jerks with their ridiculous whining, with their materialism, with their accusations and their blamegames.
I mean, I find women to be pretty attractive people, just like guys do but I don’t think I could handle dating them.
And, yes, even though I’m a woman, I can hardly deal with being around them. My mom’s crazy (she created a ******* food allergy that doesn’t exist and constantly goes on about it), my sister’s a manipulative *****, and I’ve pretty much lost touch with all my female friends because they’re so goddamned demanding (we have to have lunch dates, and hang out, and talk on the phone about boring **** like makeup and shoes, and I’ll put up with that **** if it’s a good friend who other than her vapid materialism is actually intelligent most of the time).
The only woman I look up to and dearly love more than anything is my grandmother, because she freakin’ rocks. Smart, talented, selfless, giving, and fun to talk with.
Why are people over there all the time? Why do people love the feeling of freedom and love that eminates from her house? Maybe it’s because she is one of the only sane and decent females I’ve been able to model my life and behavior off of. My dearest wish is to fulfill and care for anyone who enters my home, whether it be a small apartment or a full sized house. And I don’t find it “boring” to go watch an action flick or walk around, or whatever. And I have a huge ******* *** drive. I sometimes think that I would be better off as a guy, but I like my body shape too much. Heh.
My friend “Dave” has this new girlfriend he met on the internet. Of course, she took pictures of herself in flattering angles, even though she’s probably about 300 pounds. And of course, her online profile and her personality on instant messaging are all about how she has such “high” self esteem, and is so independant.
And then, later, he tells me that she wants HIM to bus over the hill to meet HER, because she’s NEUROTIC about meeting his friends, and can’t deal with them. She doesn’t like to drive, or go places on her own, and she’s still living at her parents while going part time to a JC and not working at all.
And I’m sitting there just wondering what the hell he sees in her. And then it hits me. He hasn’t had *** since his last girlfriend, and he’s horny as hell. He’s even made passes at me, but I just don’t get turned on by him, or I would have helped out.
So of COURSE he’s going to go head over heels, riding on busses for hours to get some tail. He goes on about how much he “likes” her but he’s been communicating with multiple girls and wants to have *** with any that are willing. Hell, legalized ************ would do him SUCH a favor, because he’s gone out with so many ******* psychos that I can hardly stand it. But then again, it’s not just their faults; because it’s obvious that he wants ***, and the whole false pretense is pretty obnoxious and obviousl.
Anyway, so I understand why men cheat. But you’ve also got to understand that there are lots of women who cheat because their husbands aren’t giving them the *** that THEY want, or their husbands are manipulating them with *** too. Yeah, it’s not as prevalent, but it happens, and it sucks.
Bottom line, if you really hate your spouse, get out of the relationship. You may think that it’s “****” or “exciting” to have some *** on the side, but it’s really ****** for both of you to be trapped.
I would rather be a **** and wanted than trapped by my possessions and unfulfilling relationships.
PorkChops:
”************, while still illegal in most parts of America, is nonetheless already practiced almost everywhere in America… Since ************ is already widely practiced all over America, M. Hunter’s comments are nothing more than wishful thinking.”
I advocate legalized ************. Not illegal ************. There is a huge difference. You have obviously not lived in Italy, Spain, or any of the other first world countries where ************ is legal and overly regulated in an attempt to discourage it (as in Nevada). I have.
Legalizing ************ has large tangible economic and social benefits for both men and women. I’m not going to go to the trouble of repeating my point’s verbatim here for the sake of one ignorant poster.
Sufficed to say that the situation I wrote about above is the reality in other 1st world countries. Women were no longer able to hold men hostage with their Sexuality, men had an acceptable and affordable quality release for their ****** urges, and the guy just trying to ******** by a pretty woman didn’t have to pay though the nose just to get a shot at getting in her panties.
“Also, M Hunter forgets to mention the downside of legalizing ************, which is where a man gets so used to paying for the company of women, that when he doesn’t pay for a woman all he can do is stutter and mutter like a foolish idiot before her, because he doesn’t know how to relate to the opposite *** in any other way than “how much?”
Don’t project your problems onto other people. If you have trouble talking to women then that is your hang up. I suggest you deal with it. There are plenty of men in countries where ************ is illegal such as the United States that have trouble talking to women. There are also plenty of men in countries that have legalized ************ that are very comfortable around the opposite ***. An individual’s social skills have nothing to do with the legal status of ************. Ironically most of the men who are too nervous to go talk to a girl in a bar or a club are the same men who are too nervous to go to a ***** house.
”Lastly, if you are a man and you agree with the man-hating feminists at NOW that ************ should be legalized, I think that should raise some red flags in the ol’ tinker upstairs, if the ol’ tinker is still working anyways.”
Each idea should be judged by it’s merits and not blindly accepted or rejected by what organization does or doesn’t endorse it. Since the burden of independent thought is too much for then you I won’t waste my time trying to explain the issue any further.
System1082:
“I read a post that woMEn have power over men via ***, and men have power over woMEn via commitment, this is very true!. I stayed single and in power my entire life, no way was I going to let a woman take that or anything else away from me.”
That is true women do have power of men. The only problem is a woman especially a pretty woman has some degree of power over every man she comes into contact with. A man however ONLY has power over ONE woman IF she wants to be in a relationship with him.
The problem with the hot single woman market as with every market is one of supply and demand along with the scarcity of resources. There is an extremely high demand for hot women that will put out. Almost every straight man wants to sleep with beautiful women. The problem is that there is a very low supply of hot women and an even lower supply of hot women that want no strings attached ***.
The result of this tight market is that women have a huge trump card. They control the poon and they can use this to manipulate men. This can be remedied however by legalizing ************. By doing this the market is freed of artificial barriers and the availability of hot young women willing to have no strings attached *** rises. The result is that the market price of poon drops (to about $30 in my experience) and men no longer have to worry about wasting months of their time, hundreds of dollars, or going to the club and hoping to hit the jackpot.
Legalizing ************ would level the playing field. Pu$$y Power no longer has any power behind it because hot pu$$y is no longer a rare commodity and as such is less valuable. Both sexes can then interact with each other in a fair and equitable way and if one person makes ridiculous demands (such as a man paying for a $70 date and getting nothing it return or waiting 3 months to ********) the other party will simply walk away.
I don’t get it.
I was watching the video. He complained about an old freezer that had been sitting in the garage there for a year or more. Did he expect her to strap it to her back and haul it a few miles down the road to the dump?
No doubt he has a sick wife. I would think that would encourage him to take a on a little more responsibility for the upkeep.
If he could hold the movie camera to film the video, he likely didn’t have two broken arms.
I agree with the others who stated women’s only power over men is the promise of some nookie. After my bad experiences with the opposite ***, I realized it was more than my own shortcomings behind them. I woke up to the fact that most American women are not worth the effort, and from that day forward, I became indifferent to them. Once a man doesn’t give a damn whether or not he gets laid with any given woman or not, she no longer has her main source of power over him. Thanks to ************, porn and other means, men have other ways of dealing with their pent-up ****** urges. The best weapon men have in the gender war is genuine or feigned indifference.
Promiscuity is NATURAL….and even biologically ENCOURAGED.
However, in today’s world, it helps to keep your health in mind too. As I said before, I would be WAY for prostitutes that are legal and kept up to high standards of cleanliness. I would far prefer a partner of mine to go do the horizontal tango with one of those people than to run off and leave or try to bridge the gap with desiring “two” families that he would divert time and money to.
In that situation, I would rather go it alone, because it’s not worth having a spouse that isn’t fully invested in my family. ******* on the side, however, that’s just ******* and I’m not having a problem unless I find out I have HIV or herpes or some other disgusting viral ***. Even the bacterial stuff is mostly curable. Emotional attachment and love to one or multiple others, however, is a big disgusting can of worms that I would hope any man in my life would have the good sense to leave alone.
I found this interesting article on promiscuity and was wondering what you think:
The Biology of Promiscuity
… Male promiscuity has always been relatively easy to understand. While total parental investment needs to be pretty intense, men have a dramatically lower minimum energy and risk investment in children than women do; one index of the difference is that women not infrequently died in childbirth under pre-modern conditions. This means genetic lines propagating through us hairy male types have an optimum strategy that tilts us a little more towards “have lots of offspring and don’t nurture much”, while women tilt towards “have few offspring, work hard at making sure they survive to breed”…
Source: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/promiscuity.html
I concur that he should have stepped up to the plate and taken a more active hand. The first piece of trash that should have been kicked to the curb was her. I only fault him for the time it took him to realize it, but then again better late than never.
Sick? Not bloody likely. This is not an example of who should have done what in this situation. This is pure and simply an issue of her contempt for the home that they share, and her acting out like a petulant little runt of a kid. We have enough syndromes and ailments and vexations that bear labels to excuse anyone’s bad behavior. Oops, sorry…any woman’s bad behavior. A guy doing the exact same thing this piece of **** did would have been locked up on some sort of domestic abuse charge.
Unless there’s evidence that she has a brain tumor, I don’t buy for a minute that she is sick.
I am an attractive, straight, professional woman who never wanted to get married. I got married, got divorced and got real. I didn’t have kids because my ex-husband didn’t want them. Now, I basically have relationships that last about two years and then they turn in to friendships. I pay my way and am overly generous to my gentleman friends yet they hardly recipriocate. Why is it that men are only generous to the “self absorbed expectant *****”? Seriously. I hear a lot of moaning and groaning about how woman are sucking men dry but these women seem to be what you are attracted to.
What do you guys really want?
In a word: Brilliant.
Who hasn’t heard every single one of these charges levelled at them?
While annoying, it’s nice to see that our enemy can be so predictable and easily analyzable.
touche’ (did i spell that right) ….. well anyway,……right on!!
Why chase women who are always right. Better to have those who THINK you are rich chase after you. Guys, it’s not how good looking you are, it’s how comfortable & secure a woman thinks she is going to be with you (based on wealth or the perception thereof) that will have “10’s” running after you. Let them smell your money, your power but whatever you do, don’t be foolish enough to spend money with reckless abandon on them.
You can think of 20 guys who have or could have anyone they want but will never win a beauty contest (Billy Joel, Howard Stern & Bill Clinton to name a few). There’s a lot of American women who know how to put a nose-ring into unsuspecting fools and drag them along like a puppy dog (since we let them). Women from foreign countries have respect for the male & lead a much more sub-serviant role. That’s one reason why so many american men would rather get a female companion from abroad.
Only in America do we have the fatest women on earth.
My current girlfriend’s mother is similar to this. The garage reminded my right away of her parents. Any time a place is cleared her mother begins to pile stuff up. Non of it is needed. Hell i have found rain checks that expired 4 years ago stuffed neatly into stacks in the kitchen. It is nuts, the house does not have rooms so much as little pathways to move. One distinction I will make is that there is not much in the way of garbage or rotting food. All be it the house is filled to the gills with **** it is not moldy food. What is funny is that they are always trying to get it under control or fix it. In the four years I have been dating their daughter I have seen the **** get moved from room to room but never just thrown out. Seriously it is just sad at this point. Plus side I work in tv and although i do not have any connections at discovery channel, I am in the DC area so for some reason they heed my threats of getting the discovery channel to do a show (some house take over where they throw trash out).
Yes Bruce, since they only posted half of her face, it can’t be argued that everyone will identify her. You know how many women have a nose and mouth just like your ex?
The mangina didn’t have the facts and was trying to report on the marriage strike. I believe that well over 51% of females in this country don’t deserve a man.
Nice choice on the illustration.
Marriage isn’t everything. It seems to be a tie down to most already married couples. I am single and I commute to work everyday and talk to married people all the time. Most do nothing but ***** and complain and they’re never happy, while some are going through divorces and ***** that it costs a fortune to go through it. They use kids as excuses for staying in a miserable messy marriage.
Why waste years of your life waiting for the kids to grow up? The kids suffer more when parents stay anyway.
There’s not just smart men who won’t commit, there are plenty of smart women who won’t commit either. I’m a middle aged woman and I have found marriage to be a waste of money and time. My feeling is, live together, and don’t sign anything and if you are not happy, there’s no laws against you nor your ASSETS. Don’t marry someone with kids, I’ve done it, it’s bad (your aways 2nd, 3rd -whatever). Too much involvement with the child’s other parent – so right about that! Baggage is not worth it!
Do your own thing, be happy with yourself and know what you want in life. If a man/woman can’t live up to those standards, then what’s the point of trying?
I don’t see how women have destroyed our economy with womens lib. I might not like women too much myself (in fact at 24, I’ve pretty much sworen them off and been forced into a life of celibacy. I guess I just gave up but, hey, if your an average looking guy and not a male model out here in L.A. in this day and age, then I’m confident you’re on the same level as I am.
To go so far as to say they “destroyed our country” is BS. Put that blame where its due; large companies cutting health care and retirement for there employees, so there stocks will go up a quarter of a point; outsourcing, illegal immigrants, the war in Iraq (which by the way we are now over 4 trillion dollars in debt over and we borrowed most of it from china), religious extremism (yeah the christian neo-con extremist just as much as bin-laden and his bunch), the near destruction of the Bill of Rights (thanks Bush!), the patriot act, ect.
Yeah I dont agree with a lot of the divorce laws out there either, and yeah there are quite a few bloodsucking women out there who will squeeze the life out of a man. I know. trust me. As I said, I grew up in southern California. While I do have the hottest pool to pick from, the majority are crazy or in love with themseleves. So no, I will never get married. And I was one of the nice guys. To go so far as to say that women ruined our country is stupid. Think before you talk.
I am a woman in her early thirties, now single, have two fantastic daughters (no sons ..thank god..haha!!) and whilst reading this, I could not help but chuckle to myself. I seriously believe this guy has wrote a lot of truth.
I feel my mother has tried to live her own unsuccessful life through me, I’ve had all the “You need to get a career first, forget men, they’re not worth it!” blah blah blah! It’s all a load of tosh! My Mum has not succeeded in her quest, however I think there are a lot of mothers out there, that have.
Women are sometimes failing as they are trying to do everything (Jack of all trades, master of none!) and I feel that the men get alot of **** because of it. We’re unhappy with our own failures and we take it out on them. I have however, got to fight the corner where my ’sisters’ are concerned. I for one, don’t care for money and what a man has in his **** pocket! I feel that many women are now seriously realizing (through their own mothers’ mistakes) that its a blessing to be ‘just’ a mother, lover and a friend and that the most simple and best things in life are free!
An example of brainwashed females.
I teach at the high school level. I am good at what I do. I grab and keep the majority of my student’s attention… a very difficult feat in today’s entertainment-oriented society.
I get their attention by being animated… I stand, move, point, lots of body language. I also use my voice to great effect. Quiet, loud, soft, tonal inflections.
I use the above to various degrees, depending upon circumstances.
Here’s an example. To get across the point that war is more than facts and figures I will describe how warriors confront each other on the battlefield, how emotions are present: rage, fear, etc. I want the kids to know that those were real, living people we are reading about.
While telling of those warriors I will pretend I am holding a rifle and growl as I approach the “enemy.” Just trying to get a point across. Also, to clarify things, I do not “attack” the students while pantomining.
In too many cases, after doing the above, a female student will raise her hand and declare that I have scared her.
Huh??? Scared her? I gave up trying to fathom the logic behind that statement. I HAVE noticed that those females tend to either use the exact same or very similarly-stated statement. I believe those females are uttering rote-learned words.
American females are, in my never humble opinion, being brainwashed by a society that desires emasculated males. Maybe I have a tinfoil hat upon my head but I fear that the “power brokers” of this country desire an emasculated male populace. Not much to fear from a citizenry whose males have been brought down to the feminine way of thinking and acting.
I’m quite sure God just loves the thought of Jabba-The-Perrin, speaking for him; and brandishing the sword of her madness in his name.
Would any of you want her championing your cause?
Over and over and over…. on this Web site and others where males have the “nerve” to criticize females for whatever reason, I read posts from females that begin by asserting they agree with the predominant male opinions on whatever topic(s) are covered but……….
usually within a few brief sentences the “true essence” of females is revealed; as the females begin to lambast males.
Are these females so self-absorbed that they are unable to see the dichotomy within their written message?
After decades of observation and pondering my only conclusion can be that females are, in my male opinion, truly inferior intellectually to males.
Yes, females may have the emotional “edge” over males but that emotionality is not conducive to rational discourse.
I just wish females would butt out and realize that males are all-too-aware of the female’s feeeeeeeeeeelings. Gals, it’s those feeeeeeelings of yours that is part of the problem, one of the reasons that more than one male has decided that life without female entanglement is far superior than to one with females making a male’s life miserable.
Fifty years old, never married. Came to many of the conclusions I read on this post decades ago.
Basically, shunned the females due to a desire to have a simple basic life that is as worry-free as possible. No, not ***!!!!
Over the years I have been repeatedly told by other males that they envy me, that life with a female is full of woe and misery sprinkled with a few brief moments of happiness.
I refused to be brainwashed by societal mores. I heard my own drummer and marched to it.
Do I “hate” females? Nope. I just avoid them as much as possible. I also avoid males possessing what I categorize as an inferior intellect.
I am unsure to what extent causes females to be as they are; is it innate biological reasons, acculturation or a combination of the two. Whatever the reason, I advise all males to think long and hard about mingling with females. Sure, there are some decent females out there but I believe they are a minute minority.
Over and over, on the majority of female postings here and elsewhere, the same theme is apparent; and that is one of male bashing.
Rare is the female posting devoid of the emotionality that causes females to be, in my OPINION, unworthy of the least amount of my time or attention.
Just read the replies to what I have written here as likely proof of my assertions.
I left a post on a female reporter’s blog who works for the Lincoln (Nebraska) Journal-Star. Her blog entry was the typical knee-jerk rhetoric related to the trite “Females earn but 73-cents for every dollar males earn.”
I gave enough evidence to refute that rhetoric; how averages skew reality, how more females than males work part-time, how males enter higher-paying careers more often than females (even though those career paths are not only open to females but that females are desired!!!). I told of fields wherein females, on average, earn MORE than males such as real estate selling.
I also mentioned the federal statistics showing how males are far more likely to be injured or killed on the job. How males, due to their careers, are more likely to obtain life-long disabilities such as hearing loss and many other maladies.
So, what does the female reporter do with my post? Rebut it with facts and figures and personal experience? NO!!!!! She just deletes the post!!!!!
So, as females ignore a male’s words and spew out self-serving rhetoric, either in real life or on a message board, the little ladies continue their self-disillusionment and expect males to now bow to them.
It’s okay, girls. I have lived my life divinely without a single female in reach. Oh, yes, I am civil on the job and in public when I am forced to be in close proximity to your feminine “divineness.” But, as much as possible, I shun the female of the species.
Too many headaches dealing with females. It’s just not worth the emotional toll putting up with what I consider to, too often, but not always, be my inferior at so many levels.
Okay, girls, lambast and berate me. I am used to it and encourage it. As in the past, typically, female responses to my words only supports my assertions.
Where’s the outcry from the downtrodden females regarding the PROVEN double-standard when criminal sentences are handed down in the court room?
Time after time, females receive a lesser sentence than males for the exact same crime!!!!
How about the discrimination regarding males being required to register with the Selective Service system; also known as “the draft?” Where are the females demanding their equal rights there?
Yah’ know, in the past only males were drafted. Today, even though females can enlist and be exposed to hostile fire, females are far outnumbered by injured males in regards to hostile fire in foreign lands.
Where is the outrage???!!!!
Until females have to register for the draft and face the enemy on par with males, I am unable to fathom why females should be entitled to vote.
Along with equal rights should be equal responsibilities!!!
The post office has a stamp referring to breast cancer.
None for prostate cancer (a male only gland) and don’t expect to see one any time soon.
There are more lives lost to prostate cancer than to breast cancer.
Read elsewhere that for every federal dollar (our money taken from us by the threat of force) spent on breast cancer only one or two-cents is spent on prostate cancer research.
Fight for female equality!!!!!!!
Insist females have to sign up for the draft and be sentenced for the same length of time as males when convicted of the same crimes.
“My beautiful and **** wife”….that’s a funny thing to call your right hand.
Allowing for the possibility that this is a guy and he is married, he sets his sights pretty damned low, in my opinion. He’s perfectly content to set the standard for the quality of his life by the act of “getting busy” with his spouse. As for her being beautiful and ****, well that’s entirely subjective, and even if it weren’t he’d damn well better refer to her as such or there’s no rutting to be had. He’s reduced himself to a sire of brood and a walking ***** for his woman.
The thing is, we never claimed to speak for all men, least of all to wretches like this guy. If he wants to remain plugged into his blissful ignorance of the herd mentality that is womankind, that’s his perogative. Regular *** wouldn’t compensate me in any way shape or form for the rest of the **** I have to put up with. If that’s all it took, I could have remained married, and just make the rest of my life about servicing her needs, her wants, her dreams…all the while having to ask for permission to do anything that doesn’t involve her or relate directly to what she wants.
Guys like this are in for a rude awakening. I know, because I used to be this guy.
Hmmmm….. I am unable to correlate the proclaimed end of society with the end of the marriage institution as currently followed in the USA.
No proof given, either (see above post). Just an assertion.
I did the “live together” thing a couple times when younger. I offered and the female accepted what I termed a “mutual assistance pact.” If a car breaks down, call home and get a ride. If trouble occurs, I would do what I could to help and she would do the same for me.
However, no life-long pledges of undying love or care. Merely an agreement to try to make each other’s lives a little better until it was time for one of us to move along.
Seemed to work well and nothing was done to harm society in any way.
Cultures have always been in a state of flux. Change is inevitable while certain human actions and inactions remain constant. I imagine that most of us today could have existed in any society of the past. We may not enjoy it, our lives may have been brutal and short but that would merely have reflected the norm for the times.
Onward into the future we will stumble. Barring some extreme calamity such as an astroid impact that kills the majority or all of humanity, I expect that humans will keep on keeping on in some manner, no matter how unpalatable it may be to those who view existence with blinders on that limits one’s world view.
Dearly beloved, we are gathered here together to discuss the 10 reasons why men won’t commit.
Well, no.
Instead, let us be fruitful and multiply those reasons and bring forth an eleventh reason.
Microwave ovens.
Huh????
Yes, microwave ovens and the food designed to be cooked within these glorious contraptions.
One less reason for the need to have a pesky whiny bothersome American “princess” within the abode to diminish your quality of life.
Males do not need a female to provide sustenance. The grocery stores are chock-full of a dazzling array of comestibles that merely require a few brief minutes in the microwave to provide a tasty nutritious meal.
No need to suffer thine own feeble attempts at old-fashioned cooking. No need to pursue a female to perform the chore. Nay!!!! Freedom is ours!!! Forgo the innumerable headaches and agonies associated with a modern female constantly within hearing range!!!
Freedom!!!! And yummy food.
Blessed be the microwave oven and the efforts of the corporations that have provided those microwavable meals for surely they have eased the ability of the male to lead satisfied fulfilling lives without being subjected to the multitude of negatives that too many of today’s self-centered anti-male females convey.
Hallelujah and hosannah.
Pondered then pondered some more.
“…22% of the men declared no interest in finding their One and Only. That means two million American women will likely never see the inside of a wedding chapel.”
Those silly vacuous females, acculturated to behave and think as others believe they should. Unable to shrug off the brainwashing that makes them desire, often demand the incredibly expensive bauble holding a diamond as a proof of love, an incredibly expensive wedding and for a male to be their virtual slave for life.
So sorry, little princesses, too many of you are not going to witness your childish fantasies come true. You won’t even be able to sucker in a jaded old pudgy guy such as I.
You are unwanted.
So, what to do?
Well, America’s balance of trade with foreign countries is a negative number. We import more than we export. That is one of many reasons the average male blue collar worker is taking an economic beating nowadays.
But, we can offset that trade imbalance a wee bit!
In China and India, male children are valued much more than female children. The male child is a financial positive, while the female is a financial negative. Hmm…. kinda’ sorta’ in a roundabout way similar to the USA today. But, I digress.
Using various methods, parents in China and India are ensuring they have male children. There is an ever-growing percentage of males in those two countries without enough females being born to provide the few benefits that females provide to men. Thus………….
Export the millions of American females to India and China!!!! American females will find a ready audience of males desiring them. Yes, girls, your husbands await!
One thing, girls, be forewarned that the antics you use here in the USA will NOT be tolerated in either China nor India. You WILL know your place in society and you will conform. But, you WILL get that lusted-after husband so many of you apparently yearn for.
Go for it, girls. Too many American males have tired of your games and are unwilling to put up with you.
I just wonder how much we can charge those in other nations for our excess females?
Thanks for this website page. It is incredible, whenever I am between women talking, I hear one of these phrases. Next time, I will be ready to respond in a way that is required.
A healthy relationship with women…what does that even mean? The merits and health of any kind of interpersonal relationship is subjective. Is it considered healthy that I merely employ no violence in my interpersonal skills, or should I just stop short of climbing into their clothes with them? There’s a very broad spectrum of what constitutes relating to other people, and women are, the last I looked, people; just not the kind of people I choose to associate with, by and large.
************ should at the very least be de-criminalized. Those men who seek the dubious comforts of women via this mechanism should be able to, as this represents what the modern world demands of inter-gender relationships: transitory, temporary, and for a price. I don’t fear women so much that I stammer and waffle in my speech and manners, and I maintain that if one acts thusly, it’s because they have Imbreed fear and a preternatural anemic self-image, not because they avail themselves of prostitutes.
It’s high time the law take its mitts off of how we relate personally to one another, short of not causing willful harm or impeding another’s life-course. The only reason that ************ is illegal is because it enforces a kind of one-size-fits-all personal morality upon us. It is long overdue that people be trusted to their own sense of right and wrong. Legislating this does not endow us with a better sense of justice.
I recently attended a wedding (poor *******). He’d inadvertently knocked her up after a one-night stand at a party. Cue, four years later, her BIG Day. I took photos on the day and boy do they tell a story… he pulls away from his bride, but he looks happy with his daughter. They’ve had fights and breakups aplenty yet she wanted this marriage and he already knows there’ll be a messy divorce just a few years down the track.
Some of her clueless female friends were happily enthusing about what a great couple they make. Ahem; either these people are ignorant of what goes on when guests go home or they are fantasists. I guess these girls were looking forward to their own big days.
The morning after the ceremony I saw his daughter playing with her dolls. She had a bride and a groom and they were getting married. It’s cyclic, guys; unless people learn to see the bad as well as the good, unless we stop indoctrinating people, then the bad marriages will just keep happening.
I totally agree with everything the article says about Valentine’s Day. But you left something out: I have a friend who takes emergency calls (Police, Ambulance, Fire Service) who tells me something else about Valentine’s Day. It has the second highest number of domestic disputes of any day of the year, after December 25th. Bitter, angry rows, bust-ups, fights, the occasional stabbing… it’s a **** holiday as it is and the sooner we ban commercial use of it the better, as far as I’m concerned.
If it is a man, he’s certainly not much of one. “He” even writes like a female.
But then again, maybe his wife was so kind as to write in for him as she knows exactly what he thinks. Just like the way they speak how “we” both liked this or “we” didn’t like that. Any husband that corrects her will have to deal with her sulking as the shock of the whole universe not agreeing with her every mood and thought is too much.
I read somewhere that 1 in 4 women carry an *** these days… yuk!
I like your way of thinking, as women demand far too much from men ie being the breadwinner, carer, **** husband, etc. I find all that too far-fetched since a lot of guys due to their testosterone need more ****** stimulation than women, so both sexes are unequal sexually. Men are better off with single women or by themselves, at least they can get what they want. Women should stay with women as they understand each other better.
Its not possible to stay with the same person everyday and be totally excited. So why not stay single, as fooling around within a relationship isn’t nice for both parties. I guess single is better. At least no-one gets hurt. Unless your values change!
The only thing that makes a woman happy is to know that a man is 100% miserable. If she thinks for a second that a man likes or enjoys something then her mission becomes from that moment on to take that something away. To any men who are thinking of getting married be warned, your *** life, your decision making, your peace of mind, your sanity, and basically your life will be over and you will find yourself masturbating in the shower at the thought of a life that doesn’t so closely resemble hell.
obbop: “In too many cases, after doing the above, a female student will raise her hand and declare that I have scared her.”
Calmly tell her:
NOW you know what males feel like when they get sent to fight a war–against their will– while the females get to stay nice & warm at home.
Men who want to see ************ legalized, to put it politely, are imbeciles.
Legalizing the exchange of *** for money, nationwide, opens a huge pandora’s box. A government beauracracy would need to be set-up for the control of the legal ************. Perhaps it would become the new Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and *******. New taxes would be created, taxes on actual services rendered, taxes on brothels. New government workers would be hired to test workers for diseases. Despite testing, diseases such as HPV would still spread because ******* do not stop HPV transmission, and you’d be hard-pressed to find/hire/keep a harlot who doesn’t have HPV as it is prevalent. New government workers would be hired to monitor the government workers that were hired to monitor ******* for money, because as they say, “no honor among thieves”. From a legal perspective, all **** laws would have to be re-modified, all ****** consent laws would have to be re-modified, all statutory **** laws would have to be re-modified, otherwise it would only be a matter of time before some 16 year old girl brings her case before the US Supreme Court stating that she has a Constitutional right to make a living selling *******, and if ************ is legal as a matter of law, it would go to reason that if a 16 year old can work at Wal-mart she can also work at Benny’s Brothel just the same. Age of consent laws will then be lowered, and lowered again, and lowered again. The legal ramifications of legalizing ************ nationwide are even far more ranging, I just give the age of consent issue as one.
All this is not “freedom”, and it’s not “liberty”, it’s nothing more than enslavement. All this because some geek who couldn’t ******** in a woman’s prison thinks that legalizing ************ will allow the geek to finally “score” whilst eliminate or lessen the geeks probability of contracting an *** — What a bunch of f’ing self-deluded dreamers. America has the loosest women in the world, whilst ************ is still illegal in most parts of America. That’s why it’s apt to describe men who wish to see ************ legalized as “geeks”. They are simply geeks who can’t ******** by the loosest women in the world. I can understand why American women would be in favor of legalizing ************, it’s because they want to put a price on something they have that’s worthless. A used-up, nasty dripping HPV-laden hole is a useless hole — putting a price on such a useless woman hole, is to such woman’s favor. That’s why the feminasties at NOW support legalizing ************, and I can understand that motive, but I can’t understand why any man but a geek would support putting a price on something that’s worthless, such is the height of stupidity. We have enough government beaurcracy, we don’t need more simply because some geek can’t ******** in a woman’s prison. Nothing further need be said, end of discussion.
Writer: Jessica, BS, Master degree, home with kids, Married 5 yrs
Yes, I do agree…..before you have kids….you have no idea what you are getting into. Being a parent sucks sometimes…..well alot of the time. You lose most of your freedom and life as you knew it before they came along. Here are a few other points…..
*the guy that invented this website had a ****** marriage…..and kids came along with that……..Move on from your nightmare….set yourself free man……..If a bad door opens….close that door
You made a bad choice and so did she…….Move on and take your kid for some ice cream
Second response
When my husband comes home from work, I hand him a beer and tell him to take 10 and chill out….get a shower. Then we have a beer together later..and eat a nice meal.
You need to understand each others roles……..Working outside of the home is exhausting and ……..being home with kids is hard and BORING!!
If you work full time…….what are your weekends like……with kids…they suck………parenting is not easy …..we all know that ….that is how it is all week…
Enjoy your family………….have a margarita with your husband….and wife…….enjoy your kids………it is only for a few years that a chic is home with the kids..
This is satire, right? Growing up in the 1970s my mom bought the feminist **** – worked my father through school and left her kids (my sister and me) as latch key children (hence our early drugs, drinking and bad grades in school). Eventually my ex-hippy parents became two income earning materialistic yuppies, both of whom had affairs, fought, divorced…typical two income family ****.
When I married and had my daughter, I started at busy home-based business so I could not do what my parents did. But that meant I was up most of the night with my baby and spent the entire day working, cleaning, changing diapers, shopping, cooking and working until midnight on the business…since my husband was a musician, his income was spotty so I took on more work, and even supported him through school.
Eventually with my saved income, we started a business which falls mostly on his shoulders, with me doing all the financials and support work. But I also raise our child (teaching, volunteering in school, etc) and – because my husband is the main income – I do shop, cook, clean, handle the hundreds of bills a household and manufacturing business require.
But the hardest thing I’ve ever done (and I’ve worked since the age of fifteen) is raise my child. There’s no amount of physical labor, office work…that is as grueling or important.
You’d have to be a neandrathal (no offense to the Geico guys), an ignorant, selfish, empty, soulless lunkhead to put a child into the world and want strangers to raise it so that you could do just like my parents did – just aqcuire stuff, stuff that means nothing when you die.
So good luck with your satire. It certainly can’t be serious.
I like this site, and will visit more frequently.Also, I have personal experience with women from other countries, and the first thing I can say is that they show their appreciation for just being me, and made sure that ***** stayed out their purse.
In other countries I was consistently informed that men are men, and women are women, there is no room for feminism.
In my opinion, Many American women are unappreciative and manipulative…bottom line. And its best to hump and dump, hit it and quit it when you can.
Henry is dead on with the difference between many American women and women from other countries that appreciate the male counterpart. And experience has shown me that – especially with the Latino women.
(lol) love the picture associated with the story. Now that’s evidence of hump and dump, hit and quit.
This is a horrible story. Who is this author? Why would anyone want this to happen in America? I agree matchmaking is not a good idea, that’s why it is almost non-existant here in the States. But to actually want a legal reason for divorcing on the grounds of, “She is not sleeping with me,” is ridiculous! *** isn’t the reason for getting married. There are much “better” ways of achieving this goal of sleeping with whomever you want to. *** isn’t for self pleasure or self-gratification, but sadly enough, most Americans won’t get this through their heads anytime soon. We are too arrogant, prideful, and 60% of us actually think they are Christians!
It’s “Gila” monster, not “Geela”.
Oh, and it’s pronounced “Heela”.
As I stated on another forum, this is what bull prisoners do as part of the process of punking out another inmate; rendering them into as feminine a state as possible.
LOL “stand and deliver” classic. There is of course a simple solution to all of this. If a private venue that you go to installs one of these then just *** all over the seat or better yet the floor and never return again. Also if your wife/girlfriend demands that you sit down while you *** and you comply instead of putting her in her place (or dropping her on the spot) then you’re too far gone for anyone to give you any meaningful advice.
If I had to deal with one of these Spuks, I’d probably end up ripping the thing out of the toilet seat and smashing it with a hammer.
“Already, a feminist group at Stockholm University is campaigning to scrap the urinals on the grounds that their construction – allowing male-only use is intrinsically sexist.”
I demand that tampons should not be produced, as they are intrinsically sexist!
Sheesh… All women do is try to put men down…
Teach women they have no right to marry up anymore, that they need to face rejection in the flirting area, that they should go and die in the wars, and that they cannot expect chivalry anymore.
If my girlfriend would buy that device, I would *** without the toilet seat up.
So simple.
Anyone here ever clean a women’s public restroom?
If you have you know that most womens restrooms are by far more disgusting. It seems to me that (to many women) if she does not have to clean it then she feels the need to totally deface it.
I have seen things in the women’s restroom that totally defy logic and common decency. (as a janitor of course).
Obbop wrote:
“Over and over and over…. on this Web site and others where males have the “nerve” to criticize females for whatever reason, I read posts from females that begin by asserting they agree with the predominant male opinions on whatever topic(s) are covered but……….”
You know, it’s just amazing. They know what we’re saying is true, they just can’t stand to own up to it, and they especially can’t stand to hear it from *us*.
And there’s a very specific reason for that.
If you ask any randomly selected group of, say, 100,000 American women if they think that women are better people than men, the responses will break down something like this:
About 50% will quickly react by saying, “No! Of course not!”, and then, proceed to spend about 90 minutes discoursing on all the various ways in which women are better than men without ever admitting that that’s what it really adds up to.
Another 25% or so will pretend to not understand the question.
Another 24% or so will launch into a stream-of-consciousness monologue about something they read in a magazine or saw on TV, or the lyrics to a Stevie Nicks song, or Feng Shui, or the color of the sky on their planet, and then insist that “it’s all the same thing” (whatever the h*ll that means)…
About .7% will respond by just saying “Yes”, and actually meaning just exactly that.
And about another .3% will respond by just saying “No”, and actually meaning just exactly *that*.
Bottom line is that, as duty bound as they feel to continually lecture us about our faults, they can’t stand to hear about their own faults, and especially not from us. Because they actually do think they’re better people than we are, they just don’t want to admit it.
The guys who submit themselves to living in such a feminized fashion are most of the problem here. It’s so ironic that these individuals would likely be the first ones to get irate if WOMEN were being told to urinate in a particular (and unnatural) way, but they, acting as the ridiculously emasculated wimps that they are, just accept this rubbish.
“To micturate from the standing position is now viewed among the more progressive Swedes – as the height of vulgarity and possibly suggestive of violence.”
I’m not aware of the prevalence of this belief, but if this is the case, where would this logic end? Ejacul*tion a potential sign of domestic violence? Scratching your privates indicative of your inherently aggressive attitude?
How can anyone honestly believe that standing up to urinate is degrading to women?
Here’s an idea – create or modify some of those Spuks to say something witty and encouraging when the toilet seat is lifted. Or better yet, just destroy them, I’m sure if enough are destroyed then it would simply become too tiresome and too expensive to continually replace them.
Another reason is, women today have become very ******, you don’t know when you kiss her if she has just performed ******** on another guy. I refuse to be made a fool of. Women have also become lazier. Most of the time they won’t even cook for their men . Finally, today’s women are complete *******. They have an attitude that I will not put up with no matter how pretty she is. Don’t get me wrong, I”ll stay with my gir,l but there is no way we will ever get married! I will not give her the satisfaction of thinking she has me by the *****. I want to know that I can leave whenever I want.
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yes women are better than men we have to be we chose who will be the father of the children that will provide and be a positive modlewe also teach the children do you guys ever tell your wife what has to be done no of course not because it is allready done we wait and wait until we are tripping over something or fighting whith something that needs fixings then we nag you to help unstead of you actually noticing the problem and just doing it take some resonsiblity and as far as men cheating i believe it is because they are stroking there own ego because 90% of the time a woman is not happy becuse her man doent treat her very nice we marry you because we love you but every time we thow outt supper because you found something else to do just keepes adding up or in spare time allways with the guys instead of you wife we really are not the enemy and you guys probably are having a harder time getting it up and istead of admiting it is old age a fact of life it must be you wifes fault so any other female who is even a little bit nice and does know every time she goes to the bathroom she will be falling in or tripping over your socks or waiting just being you instead of dating is fair game because it is different and exciting it justivies it for you so you blame your wife and the only time we have *** is when i start it but it was too much pressure so it has been 3 yrs if you guys would admit that it is a two way street and not all about you i think it would work
I am willing to bet she talks just like she writes…endless and without taking a breath.
I would address the points she tries to make, but it makes my head hurt just trying to pick them out of that load of verbal diarrhea.
RE: *the guy that invented this website had a ****** marriage…..and kids came along with that……..Move on from your nightmare….set yourself free man……..If a bad door opens….close that door
You made a bad choice and so did she…….Move on and take your kid for some ice cream
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Gee Jessica, what delightful words of wisdom. I never thought about moving on and taking my kids for ice cream? You’ve inspired me to write a letter to the family court.
Dear Judge
I would like to take Jessica’s advice and move on. So if you could please have the court cancel all future alimony payments that would be great. I would also like to have at least joint custody so I may take my little one for ice cream when I like as Jessica states. And since I am having custody half the time, please cancel my child support payments. Why pay the mother if I too have custody half the time?
Thanks for your understanding. Please refer any questions to Jessica your honor.
All the best
Master of his Domain, DYWN
In my experience, either women get it or they don’t. Either they are on your side or they’re not. No amount of evidence, attempts to convince them, logic or even pleas to empathy will sway them to your side. A feminist is a feminist, and if she were mentally sane, she would have objected to the basic premise to begin with. There is no way the 15 minute conversation you have is going to force her to change the very foundation of her life.
Actually I think this goes for any conversation topic with women. Don’t forget that they are morally superior to us mere humans. Regardless of what they believe, they are always correct. So don’t debate them. Small talk is just about the only thing you can discuss with women. Keep it to the weather, musical bands or other mundane topics.
If you play, you will lose. The only winning with AWs is not to play. The greatest thing is that your refusal to shower them with attention frustrates them much more than any slanderous accusations (non-legal) a woman can use against a man.
“She cried “****** abandonment” and won a hefty settlement. “
It is funny how this accusation will not work for a man.
Just a week ago I told my gf that the *** life is not cutting it and that I got needs which I do not accept being overshadowed by her endless needs.
Instead of any kind of hefty settlement, I got accused of being shallow, stupid, ignorant, selfish, insensitive, disrespectful, obsessive, prevert. (Yea, all these…. )
Sexism??? On the highest levels…
Make up: Treachery, true. But you can use it to your advantage. Don’t go into a relationship before you have seen her the morning after.
Or, if you are not into relationships, leave before dawn, so you always get to see the glamour side.
This reminds me of a cartoon I read many years ago. I’ll probably do it injustice having to go by memory, tho. It showed a woman in several different frames engaging in different activities to primp herself up. For example, one frame showed her putting on hair extensions, another showed her putting on fake eyelashes, another was her strapping her bra to hold up her plastic boobs, another fake nails, another makeup, and on and on. Just a long string of frames showing a woman “faking” herself to beauty. Then in the last couple of frames, her female room mate walks in the room, and asks the “fake” woman what she is doing.
The woman replies without remorse, “I’m getting ready to go out and find me a REAL man.”
Difficult to say if this new reality is a “sad state” or an opportunity to evolve. Probably both—change is seldom comfortable—but also, certainly a “fissioning” toward individuality and selfishness. Selfishness is not inherently a bad thing, but it makes it more difficult for one to think in terms of aggregates (Which rings more true, “I’m an American” or “I’m on my own, a mercenary”?). Corporations have absolved themselves of loyalty and responsibility toward their employees. Women have abandoned their gender role as caretakers and child-rearers and have become competent, vicious competitors. We’re all mercenaries, now. Further, we’re all men, now: we all drive trucks, wear pants and spit. So no one should be surprised that the social order of the 1950s is gone.
Women: you wanted freedom and empowerment, and you got it in droves! The cost, of course, is the demise of the family and a lot more shoveling of your own poo rather than getting a man to do it all for you. The only Western men willing to become enslaved to (marry) Western women are either desperate, or fools.
Guys: we need to push harder to make sure women are more equally represented. Equality is equality is equality. This means: mandatory draft of girls and women the same age as war-drafted men. Educating and promoting more female plumbers, carpet-layers, factory workers and ditch-diggers—not just doctors, lawyers, scientists and CEOs. Also, remember that 90% of women marry up. If you’re going to marry, make sure she’s loaded, first.
Dads and Moms: start taking your sons to work on Take Your Daughter to Work Day. After all, college degrees and good careers are but one facet of “choice” in the long litany of lifestyle choices available to women today (work, or government dole, or lucrative divorce, or modeling, or subsisting on grant monies while promoting Womyn’s Rights, or obtaining scholarships for the 1000+ tax-financed Womyn’s Studies Programs that exist today). By contrast, college degrees and good careers are mandatory for boys and men.
HEY!! that’s a bunch of ****!! while it’s true that, once a woman is in a relationship, she feels she no longer needs to watch her weight, dress up and take care of herself. This happens more often than not. BUT!! then you have women like me.
I have been in a relationship for 6 months and I STILL dress up, wear makeup and keep things “downstairs” trimmed and tidy. But lately, the boyfriend won’t touch me cause apparently he’s “got soooo much on his mind”
It’s not just the women who don’t hold up their end of the ****** bargain when the honeymoon phase comes to a close. My man has all but lost ******* interest, but, he likes porn and strip clubs. WHAT GIVES? Am I to assume that he’d rather wank to porn than be with a REAL, able and willing partner? Or that he’d rather go PAY to have some ***** rub her surgically enhanced “assets” in his face when he’s got a perfectly good pair of FREE breasts that he can do what he pleases with at home?
What the ****!?!?.. can some of you men PLEASE explain this to me?
Just by looking at the face… I think she may have had 30 or 40 pizzas too many in her lifetime already… But fat is a craving, & a teenage daughter (god I hope is prettier than the mom) is an easy tradeoff… I really think what was going on here is that SHE was so fugly that her daughter was “HER ONLY HOPE!” There simply are an amazing number of women out there who “date” only with the expectations of being wined & dined… Their ***-drive is firmly in PARK & you can play this game a long time till your wallet is empty & her tummy looks like she is 8 months pregnant. Her putting out is beyond reason… Guys… No more than 3 dates to ********, & no more than $40 for a date. Better to meet AFTER DINNER TIME for a drink. She is going to be loosened up more by that Jaegermeister than the prime rib anyway!
insane
I can personally attest to the power of the Shaming Tactics.
On many a board I post on, once you use them against a woman, she then has to dig deeper and deeper to try to disarm you with a tactic you haven’t seen.
Sadly for women, the list covers them all, so when they attack, they are easily disarmed.
They then either concede by running away, claim that you are unreachable and stubborn, or just try a inane topic to lull your attention away from that spear of logic you just stuck them with.
Best thing to remember…majority of women THINK they are unique, but surprisingly have the SAME mentality They each think THEIR insult is rare and a real zinger. Once you show how boring, predictable and weak their emotional attack is, you can just walk away.
Let them have the last word…As Kenshiro says…you’re already defeated (yes I know what he actually says, but the filters won’t post it).
Truthslayer
She sounds like a total psycho.
Bruce, we can’t police other women, like you can’t police your male buddies out there. To us, other women are sometimes the enemy…trying to screw our men etc. Every girlfriend I know says that women want men who have girlfriends and wives, because its a challenge. When I used to go out with the guy i’m dating, we never held hands. Rarely did girls stare or try to smile at him. Now, when we hold hands in public, its like every woman in the universe bats her eyes at him.
Women are ****** up, in so many different ways. We all hate each other for the most part. Sadly, its other women who often ruin our relationships and marriages. But men are bad too. So, you police yours Brucey, and we’ll do what we can.
Oh, and PSS, that woman is crazy. I’m 26 y/o and I dated a 19 y/o marine. Marines are HOT. Men don’t realize most women go nuts for that uniform and the whole protector thing. She was a ******. I would have paid for her breast implants, so she would’ve left him alive and sent that sweet young man my way. Any marines 23-30 reading this….I love you! And I’ve got quite a pair of natural jujubies or whatever, over here!!
Obviously the woman isn’t LAZY she has a mental illness. If you’ve never had a mental illness or loved some one with one, then shut up!!!
How could he live in that house? hmm? Well think about how frazzled her sick little brain is to do that to her own home. Think about how tired her little mind must be from stowing garbage away like a squirrel with acorns prearing for the winter.
She probably has a lot of stress about it and her husband no doubt has fought with her over it. She probably knows he will leave her, but her brain is so backwards and she is literally compelled to bring junk in the house so that being alone doesn’t even contend with stacking junk up in her home.
Honestly, I feel sorry for that woman. I feel sorry for him too, But I think he should commit and “Baker Act” her. I’m sure he wouldn’t have a problem and in the meantime, get the house in order and if she wasn’t able to get better, he could leave. But I think if she were commited with hospital health care, he might be able to help her realize the damage she is doing to her family.
I realize that this comment is about a month late, but why should women catch up on dying so that they can equal men in war casualties? Its men who start wars and men who want to kill each other. Maybe men should catch up on being assaulted and *****, so that they can be equal to women in that.
some stuff is just too sad to comment on. It stands on it’s own like a work of art. I suppose if this weird-wolf is only mucking up her own face and not expecting people to kowtow to her demands for respect, then she only becomes a harmless caricature.
To Just Me: I am happy to hear a woman like yourself still respects her man enough to look good for him. For the last decade, society as a whole has only been about women and their needs. And in more private lives, women have been all about themselves. In your case, Just don’t assume anything but have a talk with him instead.
Oh by the way, there are no such a thing as free breasts or *** offering from women! Men pay for them one way or another, sooner or later!
You guys are really funny! I couldn’t help but laugh my *** off at some of the things you have written. Especially the wimp of the month!!! But come on guys you really can’t have your cake and eat it too. It all comes down to dignity and respect for each others feelings and well lets face it, it is simpley not there in most marriages anymore. TV and Porn makes you all seem like the grass is greener on the other side. Lets put it this way; you guys are all cake men! You want your cake and eat it to.
I’m all for equality. She pays for her **** and I pay for mine. BTW the Mens right movement aren’t the only ones pushing this. Many feminist groups (as opposed to feminazis’) are urging women to pay for half or all of the date.
Oh and by the way how can I get into contact with the woman trying to pimp out her teenage daughter? Just kidding!
Of course this is pretty classic. You can also see the same high expectations that women have on dating sites; where women expect you to be perfect while they do not even bother to post a picture of themselves. Or a 45 year old woman who expects young studs to flock to her needs just because she MIGHT put out. Or go on Craigs List & see all the women who expect YOU to pay for *** all the while pretending to want you. Are you a “Generous Man?” Translate that as YOU will pay for *** regardless of how bad it might be.
Bail and not placed in jail?
When men do the exact same thing, sell young girls for ***, they are usually called pimps, deplorable and the scum of the earth, right? But who would sell their own daughter?
Going Dutch, letting her pay for dinner & a movie? You better believe it. I know way too many suckers paying for everything again and again. Women do not see or think that there is a double standard AND are very quick to attempt to shame a man, who doesn’t pay for social outings. Unfortunately, some men fall for that ****.
I have a friend who uses an interesting tactic. He tells his girl of the moment that he does not have any money, he’s strapped for cash or saving his money for something important. If she doesn’t offer to take him out, the relationship ends . . . especially if his biological needs have not been fulfilled yet.
Cool site.
RE: Howard, “better to meet after dinner time . . . “ Smart move!
To avoid gender bias charges, the store’s owner opens a Wife Store just across the street.
The first floor has wives that love ***.
The second floor has wives that love *** and have money.
The third through sixth floors have never been visited.
There is alot of truth to never being able to please a woman. Opposites do not attract in a relationship. That’s where most go wrong. There is a fundamental error in looking for an opposite in a relationship. For science, that’s fine, but to want a mate that does not have the same interest, likes, dislikes, etc….well, why not just rush out on a busy freeway head-on into traffic. ‘Nuff said.
Go to any public event and you will see a long line of women waiting to *** (and of course the attendant whining about how unfair it all is). Trying to get men to have to sit down to *** means, inevitably, long lines of men waiting as well. It is a typically feminist trait to project their perceived misery on to the nearest man/men available; and with this initiative, I should think they are hoping to achieve just that. If we’ve got to be miserable waiting to *** so should the men? It’s just another example of blinkered feminist equality.
Cinammon Stillwell deserves a medal. Well after all she is a legitimate researcher and doctor. I wonder what happened in Robert Jensens’ young life. That would probably explain his ‘feelings’ on this subject. First off…men are real. Most women are too… but tend to want to live a fantasy life and be all touchy feely. That’s fine for the romantic parts throughout our days, weeks, months etc. But wake up….life is made to take responsibility, suck it up and be a man.
Considering the legal statutes of the various legal entities within the US of A one can only assume the “store” has an extremely liberal return policy with not only the full purchase price refunded but the returned male having to forward to the dissatisfied purchaser a sizable sum of money every month for years to come.
That was a pointless story. I’d love someone to tell me the opposite isn’t true… men would keep going up floors too in search for the ‘perfect woman’: big breasts, tiny waist, housewife, *** every night… give me a break. People who write this **** are small-minded and don’t know the meaning of the word ‘logic’. Use your brains.
I would like to nominate Jason West, mayor of New Paltz as “Mangina of the Year”.
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The opposite isn’t true.
It isn’t men running around telling anyone who will listen that they are entitled to a perfect mate; it’s women.
It isn’t men who constantly change the rules as to what qualities are to be found in a desireable mate; it’s women.
It isn’t men who sit in rapt attention listening to the likes of Orca Winfrey telling them how to ensnare a man and then screw him blind; it’s women.
It isn’t men who throw the temper tantrums when they don’t get their own way; it’s women.
It isn’t men who have spent the last forty years trying to define their identities through herd mentality, and then ***** and moan about how tough life is once they have gotten it; it is once again women.
Most men would be happy to just be with a decent woman who would love them for who they are rather than for what they look like or what he can buy for her. You know…an honest woman.
It’s a shame that such women are extinct.
How stupid and selfish can women be!? Just when I think I’ve heard the worst, some woman comes along and lowers the bar even further.
How about making toilets with built in seats that can’t be raised? Or even easier go around and glue the seats down, but it would take a man to think of that and no self-respecting man would ever suggest such a thing.
Obviously thought of by a woman, or a mangina controlled by a woman.
Hey Kaylee, you sound like one of those that call and harrass Tom Leykis.
Thanks ! I have lived some of these tactics, and now just let her know that shame tactics no longer work, then tell her to just SHUP UP. Seems to work good for me : ) Now getting laid a lot more without all of the yack.
(LMAO) point well made Curiepoint !
Well, if the picture accompanying the original post is any indication, I’m d**n glad not to be a male feminist/mangina. That guy looks like he has bigger br**sts than most of the women he is kotowing to.
“Often spawned from feminist mothers and raised alongside ‘empowered’ females, the Mangina will often sell his soul in order to attain one-night stands.”
I have met the grown-up sons of quite a few feminists and single “empowered” mothers, and they are often misogynists and even violent toward women. Their domineering mothers attempted to castrate them and they retaliated.
Screw it, I’ll just **** outside in the bushes.
Women won’t stop until until there are no men left. They absolutely hate men and nature, and prefer the artificial and lots of rules.
We are becoming overcivilized. It will only benefit women and hurt men.
tygr said it best. You’ll just sound like them in the end.
I can’t believe nobody has mentioned the best, and SAFEST response to all the shaming tactics: laughing.
A deep, loud, long, belly-filling laugh is the one response that will disarm the aggressor. They will be mystified and befuddled, but miffed that you obviously don’t take the ***** seriously. It’s also office-safe, so the boss won’t write you up on it.
Remember, the woman HATES YOU as a man and wants you to SUFFER. If you laugh, that sure ain’t suffering. And if SHE laughs too, YOU laugh again!!! Out-laugh the twit!
Also, all women want to express themselves and be heard, and as a bonus, have something to laugh about later with a Girlfriend. They’ll never want to brag about making a man laugh, never never never.
This is what happens when you worship P U S S Y.
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You guys are freakin me out…I’m 23 and I take the plunge next week at the courthouse. I’m thinkin twice about this.
I grew up in a house like this. I’m in my 30’s now and haven’t lived in the house since college, but my mom still lives there. People might say “why doesn’t he just throw the stuff away?” or “why doesn’t she get help?”. The fact is, people in this condition are very resistant to treatment, and are very protective of their god-awful mess. My mom had to listen to 3 kids and her husband pleading with her and sometimes yelling at her to clean up the trash- for 30 years. And the pile was never reduced, not even an inch. In fact it just got worse over the years. In our teen years it got so bad we could never have friends over- growing up and living in a mess like this had obvious psychological repurcussions on all of us. It’s a form of OCD called ‘compulsive hoarding’, and there is a stubbornness and resistance about it held by the victim that makes them refuse (violently at times) to do anything about it. Whenever my dad threw something away or tried to clean a room, my mom went nuts and threw a tantrum. She saw it as a personal attack, or a loss of some kind of control.
My advice to to Ed? Sounds like he did all he could do to help her (and trust me, there isn’t much he can do). He simply needs to take care of *himself* now, and get the hell out of there- divorce her, separate from her, do whatever he needs to do.
Loads of interesting points. I had to take a Gender, Politics and Society course at my final year of my Under-graduate politics course at a UK university, really opened my eyes to a load of ultra-feminist stuff that women and men are being brainwashed. I’d never come across such self-pitying and often hatred-filled gibberish in all of my life, and yet it seems to be a dominating modern philosophy.
I don’t fully agree with men not being at all emotional. Men don’t have to fit into the stereotypical ’stoic’ sort of approach. There are aspects of manliness that are everlasting, such as honour, rationality, inner strength and decency (not that women can never hold any of these aspects, but they come across as often very masculine attitudes). What I do agree with is that men (not merely males) ultimately make decisions based on reason and rationality, while I’ve often noted some women make decisions based on the most random, usually emotional things ( such as: “let’s vote for that politician. I’ve got no ideas about his policies but he says that he loves his wife, so he must be okay.”). I do think that males are born, but being a man is something that must be taught, and as such is often being stifled by the very feminised modern education system and the decline of the traditional man role model.
I’m very confident in being a man, and I’ve never had any problem in giving very close friends a bear-hug when I say hello or goodbye. I’ve never seen it as at all effeminate (though I’ve lived outside of the UK for a couple of years so I’ve probably picked it up as cultural thing).
Interesting website, not sure if I agree with everything on here at the moment – I need to read more to make up my mind, but please keep up what you’re doing.
I sit when I ***.
It is civilized and clean, damn it if I’m going to let **** splash on my pants.
The general thrust, however, is that we should not live our lives simply to please the aesthetics of a particular feme in our lives. This is lacking a backbone. No, we live our lives as men and have our codes and we choose our law and live it, instead of drifting like a chump.
That said, gentlemen, it’s ****. It splashes. That’s barbaric.
Seems Jerry Madsen enjoyed the post enough to mention us in his blog.
Jerry was searching the net on some news about that Crazy Mary Winkler. He came across our site in his search. He writes in regards to dumpyourwifenow.com:
I did a Google search on her name. My first stop was a posting about Mrs. Winker on a blog entitled, “Dump Your Wife NOW!” Quickly, I became less interested about the accused and more curious about this blog. As I began to explore, it soon led to the discovery of a modern day version of the He-Man-Woman-Haters Club in the bloggersphere.
What I found was an extensive internet ring of anti-feminism blogs and websites; some funny, some crude, all serious.
What purpose is being served by these cyber outposts of anti-femanazism. I’ll let their titles and sub-titles do the talking. Here are the notables (My comments):
* Dump Your Wife NOW! – Turning Doormats into Men. Finally a site for the unhappily married man. Forget counseling we are all you need to kick her to the curb! (Apparently, you can also forget punctuation)
Jerry also adds about our site:
…. I’ll even give credit where credit is due: The “Dump Your Wife NOW!” boys actually have an intelligent dialog running. I don’t agree with everything they post, but at least they they aren’t indiscriminately blasting women with hate.
So I had to write Jerry back, and here’s my response:
Ummm.. you used the word “they” twice in a row. (Apparently, you can also forget punctuation)
RE: “Most of them aren’t brave enough to post their name and/or picture.”
Ummmmm.. Did you not see our ABOUT US page? Our pictures and bios are proudly displayed at http://www.dumpyourwifenow.com/about/
You know Jerry,
I am happy that you are happily married. But why bash your male brothers? When your wife wakes up one day after twenty years of marriage and is bored with you, and runs off to shag the pool boy, who is gonna listen to you at the bar? Her girlfriends? No Jerry. Your brothers in the human race who have been there too. You are a man first. A husband second.
Men in glass houses should not throw rocks. Please re-work your posting with less of a mangina point of view. The picture of the middle finger is offensive Jerry.
We’ll be here for you, should that day come when your wife wants something else.
Jerry replied soon after:
Touche regarding ‘they’.
However, I said “most” – not “all” – of the sites in question don’t post their personal info. Your site was the difference in my description.
And yes, the middle finger is offensive. That was the point; Fred X is more offensive than constructive. But at least I blurred it; which is more than I can say for Fred X, a site I found through yours.
If my wife ever takes the kids and moves on to greener pastures, I’ll be sure to keep you guys in mind. Good luck with the blog; I’ll continue to check it out.
Thanks for stopping by!
Jerry’s blog can be found at: bloggeddrain.typepad.com/thedrain/2007/04/the_mangina_mon.html
And of course be sure to visit the Fred X Blog
I will comment upon one thing in Gee-Gee’s post: The last line of her post.
She says that things could be okay if us dumb, selfish, oafish, sloppy men with erectile-dysfunction-because-we’re-old would just realize that it isn’t all about us. Is this not what we men have been saying for two generations? Yet, the impetus behind the whole circus from courting to relationships to marriage have always been about what she wants. From the slave-mined blood rock on her hand that her friends can ooh and ahh over, the several thousand dollar wedding dress, the guest list that she and her mother control with an iron fist, and the actual ceremony and reception afterwards that can cost upwards of thirty thousand dollars…it has all everlastingly been about her wants, her needs, and her whimsy. The groom is just another accessory. Entitlement of this magnitude does not germinate overnight. It begins in her childhood princess days, and does not ever go away.
Don’t believe me? Look at how virtually every product and service is marketed in this country; it’s all about her. Even issues regarding the ever-popluar screed Erectile Dysfunction are promoted as being about her pleasure, as well as other health issues specific to men.
And for the record, ED is usually symptomatic of something far more serious and life-threatening than just old age.
Like, say…stress and burn-out? Gee, where’s the love you profess then, huh?
Your game is up, Gee-Gee. You most certainly do not marry us because you love us. You do so because it keeps you wrapped up in that delusional cocoon of being a princess that demands homage that fires your willingness to marry.
We here only acknowledge that you and your ilk fool us no more.
Yawn…same old same old. This article is just a re-hash of the same useless statistics and finger pointing that is promulgated as truth.
Man cheats because of his needs. Wife divorces. His fault.
Wife cheats because of her needs. Wife divorces. His fault again.
The bottom line is simply this: Live out your life as a slave to the whims of so-called honest women by begging for scraps at her ****** table, or pay a pro and get what you want when you want it, however you want it. It’s your choice and your responsibility to see to your own needs. Just stop with the moral crusade against those of us who don’t care for your particular brand of bullsh*t morality.
Better to be a paying customer than a beggar any damned day.
On the ABC nightly news last night, the talking head there stated that breast cancer rates in american women have been falling the last two years in a row. He said the fall is attributed in part to AW’s lower usage of synthetic estrogen replacement therapy, which went out of favor around 2002. He said that studies have indicated that breast cancers feed on the female hormone estrogen.
This got me thinking (and laughing), because the birth control pill is nothing but synthetic estrogen. It’s funny that the talking heads claim that when older women take estrogen (as in ‘estrogen replacement therapy’) it is linked to causing breast cancer, but when young women take estrogen (as in the ‘birth control pill’) it is described as everything good and beneficial and liberating for women.
Breast cancer rates in America began exploding in the mid 1960’s, about 4 or 5 years after the birth control pill was approved by the FDA.
First off, I really like this site. Granted, I don’t agree with all of it (some rants just go off to the opposite extreme), but I do agree with the main points and some of this stuff is hilarious!
Now back to the article, I agree with this guy. Children’s toys start the brainwashing at a young age. I hate those ****** Bratz dolls and, if I’d have kids (hell no), they would not be allowed one. Barbie’s are ok most of the time to me as long as it’s not perpetuating a stereotype. i.e. Bride Barbie. I hate that women think their role in life is to grow up, get married and have kids. I also hate that men do the same thing – grow up, go to college, get a good job, get married, have kids. Those both end up in the same place – misery.
I was 20 when I realized I didn’t have to follow a mold. I knew everyone expected me to go to college, meet a young man, get married and pop out a bunch of brats but you know what? I didn’t want that. I like being independent. I like living by myself. I like paying for my own things. I like ***. I like to have my own hobbies. I like silence and not having to talk to someone when I get home from work. What I hate is people who lived the stereotypes as children, girls playing house with their dolls and boys playing with their matchbox cars, and now they live them as adults without even thinking about what they are doing. It’s not just women, it’s men too. We all have to open our eyes and start thinking about what we are doing and why we are doing it. We shouldn’t do stuff just because “that’s what you do”. We should do it because it’s the best thing for us. If you don’t want to get married, don’t. If you don’t want kids, don’t. If you want to travel the world, do. If you want to become a librarian and your parents want you to become a doctor, become the librarian. Don’t put up with misery in your life if you can help it.
Divorce sucks, I know. My parents were married 4 times EACH. I’m not married and don’t really care if I ever do. If I do though, I certainly am NOT spending thousands of dollars on a stupid wedding. Screw that. I’ll elope and spend the money on something more worthwhile.
And no, I’m not single. I’m with a guy who actually has the *** drive of a woman married 10 yrs (which sucks *** because I could do it everyone day at least once). He wants to get married, but why should I? I don’t care about a stupid rock – diamonds are ugly anyway (so plain and boring, plus no imagination whatsoever), I don’t care about being married – I can take care of myself, and I don’t want kids – I already know what a nightmare that would be.
I am a great cook, I clean, I can change a flat tire, I don’t care if I break a nail, I want my BF to go out with his friends, I make him his favorite desserts, etc etc and he does nice things for me back. In fact, he says I’m the only sane woman he’s ever dated – I’m normal. Its a give and take, if only people would learn that.
Anyway, I think you guys are doing a great service. Maybe all the doormat, angry and sad men in the world can learn something and grow a set and maybe the women who actually think can spread the word to the materialistic harpies that they need to shut up and be nice for once. I can’t tell you how many divorced men I’ve met who up front say they are never getting married again and they’ve had a vasectomy as a come on line. They are ruined now (I love that they got a vasectomy but now their mantra is all women are evil). It’s sad, really. Everyone needs to learn how to be happy and do it. Don’t cave in to societal pressures just because they think that’s what you should do. And, BE NICE to each other already!
A wrote: “Its men who start wars and men who want to kill each other. “
I’m sure women have *never* caused a war in history because they are so pure and would never make a mistake.
A wrote: “Maybe men should catch up on being assaulted and *****, so that they can be equal to women in that.”
This comment is absurd. Men are assaulted as often as women are but usually don’t speak out about it as societal pressure is on them to “take it like a man.”
This is no surprise. Recent research has strongly suggested that women pick men based upon scent.
When on the pill they pick men who smell like their male relatives.
When off the pill they then go for someone who doesn’t smell like male relatives.
This is the reverse of nature, where a woman not on the pill will pick a man whose scent is dissimilar.
She gets married, has a kid or two, goes off the Pill and then her hubby wonders why she is shagging the guy down the street.
To the point about how men start wars. I got news for you…women do too.
Victoria of England got embroiled in the whole Boxer Rebellion thing in China, and condemned a generation of British men to death for what amounted to her desires to subjugate the Chinese.
Catherine The Great slept her way to the Empress’ throne and used her bed buddies in the Army to murder her husband, the heir apparent to the throne. Then, waged war on her home country in the name of Russia. She was the poster child of feminine manipulation as a means of getting what she wanted.
Indira Ghandi and the suppression of the Sikhs
Joan of Arc led a massive army of uneducated people against the crown of France because the voices in her head told her to.
All of these extreme examples of feminine pique.
I love these arguements implying that men war because it’s a part of our gender. By my observation, no man regards the act of war as being a positive, life-affirming thing. Ignored is the fact that regardless of how we feel about it, we join the battle because we are trying to protect our countries and our ways of life…that includes protecting our mothers, our wives, and our children. It isn’t a game, despite what your Womyn’s Studies courses have told you. It isn’t a fun excursion, nor does it re-define the masculine. It’s an unpleasant and messy task that must be dealt with.
Lee Raconteur,
Man, that is the sort of opinion that give the MRA’s a bad name.
Women are like that because because they make the choice to be *******. They ***** around, and generally cause havoc in peoples lives because it is all a little game to them. They love the sort of attention they get when they hurt a man.
Sure biology plays a role, but it seems women have had more than their fair share of choice in the matter to become the worthless ****** that they are now days.
she needs to be pitied because she has a mental illness.
He needs to forcibly commit her to an institution.
He needs to take up the slack and clean up HER mess while she’s on vacation where she’s being pampered and told she’s unaccountable for anything.
Laughable.
and no, I will not shut up regardless of my experience with or exposure to mental illness.
You cannot force people to accept help and care against their will. Doing so would only end with his further vilification by her friends and family, and quite probably be viewed as a form of abuse.
He did the right thing by leaving her indolent, screwed up ***. Burning the place to the ground would be adequate justice done.
I’m so sick of being manipulated by my wife especially after admitting to manipulating me for 5 years before marriage. Then in my 1st year of marriage she breaks down admits she can’t be this fake person always agreeing with me. I know there have been, and are many intelligent and contributing females to society… but overwhelmingly they just suck you in for their own narcissistic pleasure. Obscenely worse than any guy could.
Let’s change the whole marriage thing.
I freaking love this forum! Sorry for sounding so emotional. I’m approaching my 2nd year and have already decided to divorce. I just need to get on m feet and i’m out.
Mine has got all five definately! I just need to make some trades and i’m out. I say 6 months tops.
It’s amazing the similarities.
I always believe moderation is the key. I don’t know if feminism had destroyed america but I believe that feminism had made certain groups of women better off, but most women worst off and as a society, also worst off. Let me explain… What we have in today’s world is the full swing of the feminism pendulum to the extreme end where their mission is to descredit men. We can all compare statistics and scientific facts, what not – but even these are being challenged. As a man, I can tell you how men feel in general so maybe women can listen for once without making remarks. Afterall, aren’t women the ones who always listen while claiming that men do not? This is my first point in fact….I am saying let’s look at some non scientific, non statistical pool for once; look at the general feeling of society towards men. Why? Because if men are respected in this society, there will be alot more respect in return!
As we stand today, men are shown in TV commericals as doofus dads, boyfriends… men are often shown to be dumb and losers, while women are shown to be smart and resourceful…all in the same commerical! And what’s with women kicking guys as way to solve problems in movies? Why do I present this? Because it is out there for everyone to see, right now! This has very important implications and that is… in this society, men are silly and doofus-like and not to be taken seriously and therefore, no need to listen to them.
Don’t even let me start with the 200+ women only colleges! So if you ask me, I would say, we are better off without feminism, because feminism has caused more damages than it has helped women!!!
I mostly blame the feminist movement. I am sad to say, their plan is working! They want to destroy the bond between men and women through the use of laws, victimization, etc. These feminists want us men to be what they want women to think, that is, rapists, *** addicts, bums, criminals, non commiting ********, etc.
Most of these feminists are single with cats, or lesbians, or divorcees. Go figure! So if we stay away from marriage, we may be helping their cause. But who cares, we men don’t have to play their game. I say, lets go marry foreign women.
I shouldn’t have to tell you something you already knew! There’s more where they came from!
Tim Alexander is tapping into the same disatisfaction that the “Rantings of The Single Male” by Thomas Ellis tapped into. Namely that women have lost their inhibitions and morals. We are in an anything goes culture now. Its not Mr. Right, its Mr. Right Now. Stable, reliable, decent men are out, and bad boys, meth chemists, bikers and thugs are in.
Thats why I have zero sympathy for women who exercise no rational criteria for selecting men. And they complain when a bad boy bends ‘em over and gives them the business with no romance or consideration, using them like wh*res and chucking them. When you lay down with pigs you too will smell!
Then they whine to Mr. Save-A-Hoe to take care of them.
I am studying this like a bible! Whenever I feel upset about the unjust done to men, I come here and I feel so much better. Whenever I see a commerical, or heard about a movie that put men down, I come here and I feel better. Thanks to the creator and you guys.
For most of elderly men affected by enlarged prostates, it is physically IMPOSSIBLE to **** in a sitting position.
Well, that’s the most stupidist thing I’ve ever heard. And I’m not even a man! Who cares if a man stands or sits? It should be a personal preference. Gimme a break!!! It’s only urine. It CAN be cleaned if it splashes outside the intended target.
I for one don’t want to get rid of all the men. I happen to like them – A LOT – just the way they are.
RE: Juro: Women won’t stop until until there are no men left. They absolutely hate men and nature, and prefer the artificial and lots of rules.
Juro, nothing “artificial” in this house. It ain’t all of us. It was a few wenches who ruined it for the rest of us. No one asked ME what I thought about the situation, or I would have told them that THE WOMAN’S PLACE IS IN THE KITCHEN, BAREFOOT AND PREGNANT, PREPARING A MEAL FOR YOUR MAN AFTER A HARD DAY’S WORK.
I can’t wait to watch Diary of A Tired Black Man.
And, good point Rev Porkchops!
While that was another long read, it was very interesting. There’s one thing that is obvious, the relationship game is ****** up. Whether it is the pill, the government playing the role of the surrogate father, or biased law and policies, it’s looking pretty bad. And the media does not help at all. So yeah, it doesn’t take a research to see that the pill significantly changed society but I guess the details help.
Off topic:: I just recently saw the beginning of Scream 2 again and the opening was sad. The girlfriend asked her boyfriend for money to purchase popcorn. He replied, “Don’t you have your own money?” To which she quickly pointed out, “Yes, I have my own money. I need yours for popcorn.”
He sighed and coughed up the money.
Kevin,
I’m afraid that you’ve got it wrong. Opposites DO attract, they just make lousy partners!
Damn fine advice. I just e-mailed a hyperlink to this page to every guy whose e-mail address I’ve got! This comes too late for one buddy of mine who got ***** in his divorce. Poor sob fell for every trick she pulled.
I’d just like to note that as an Swede I have never seen nor heard about this invention. I sure wouldn’t have it installed either.
I don’t think I’ve ever read more filth in my life – I received this link from someone close to me who just got news from her husband he wants a divorce. This link was sent to the so-called poor ******* who made the decision – all I can say is that you all have one-track minds. Out of every post, reply and article I’ve read, the issue is either *** or money. I didn’t realize that so much of the male population was so shallow that they would allow these two things to rule their lives. When women don’t want ***, it’s because they are tired from working all day, raising your children and cooking your dinner. And to be honest, you probably aren’t the ‘hunk of man’ you once were either, so who are you to make judgements on women who have possible beared your children, or have just plain put up with your **** their whole lives? I say you are right on the money – dump her – do her the best damn favour you can ever do for her. And by the way, I’m a happily married woman (and I know I’m not the only one) who loves to be intimate and ’stroke’ my man’s ego on a regular basis – *** is not a problem – but in return, he gives me what I need. To have a happy marriage, you need to have some kind of emotional commitment or you’re right – you might as well go call a hooker.
Ok, I’m a female with a husband that has filled my house with junk to the point that I can hardly walk through so I know first had what Ed is going through. However, in Ed’s case, since her wife has refused treatment, I advise him to let her go. It isn’t easy living with a person who has a mental illness even if one loves them. His wife’s life is hell but his doesn’t have to be. Dump her then have a great life.
Providers and nice guys finish last, and end up with fugly women.
Hi, it’s my first post here on this website. I forgot how I was directed here; honestly, I wasn’t even trying to see if “www.dumpyourwifenow.com” actually exists, but imagine my surprise and amusement when I realized it does. I forget anything can be online as long as rules are followed, fees paid, etc. right? I’ve found this site so funny at times that I even started coming here for entertainment, because all my life I’ve had issues about women. I’ve always felt like a victim when it comes to the opposite *** because of how I, a GUY, was treated. Throughout school, I’d ask a girl a question and I’d almost always be met with a very rude answer. Some info I’d read here seem to explain such times that her reaction would make me want to put my hand to her face.
Anyway, geegee’s post is the reason for this entry: given her apparent lack of punctuation, it could be she is deaf. Some deaf people, especially those since birth, don’t have good English skills, hence the poor writing that, as Curiepoint pointed out, is verbal diarrhea (me too, Mufpounder. LOL!). It reminds me of a letter a deaf friend in school who wrote me a long time ago (she’d just moved away). She wrote so much and so long that I didn’t even try to understand it in the first place. I was like, whoa, and simply put the letter away to try again later. Admittedly, though, at the time I was angry with her for something she did in school. No need to go into details about this one as I’d forgiven her for pulling such a stunt.
Geegee, no offense meant for agreeing with Curiepoint’s blunt description of your entry. You do seem to be female, not male, and you need to understand that we guys are getting sick and tired of putting up with the feminist **** that’s been thrown at us that it seems we’re getting to where the women kick-started Feminism decades ago. Lashing out for stuff they felt they didn’t deserve, that is. Well, us guys too so it seems to be our turn.
Well, that’s all for now. I’ll be back to read more. And laugh too, of course. Hehehe By the way, I’d like to commend the editor’s comment that he decided to allow geegee’s entry as-is.
The answer is that women want to be courted, all of their lives.
Being generally passive, they won’t initiate these activities. They’ll complain of being unhappy, often citing trivial matters and faults, but the truth is they want the husband to keep on pursuing them, providing excitement and romance.
It is one sided, but if you want to keep your wife and keep her happy, treat her as though you have to keep winning her heart.
Hello,
Why do you think all women are spoiled and horrible? You don’t think that western values affect men at all? You don’t think that they too want it all? God, this article is a bunch of sexist ********. I am a strong intelligent independent woman, and I think men simply rely heavily emotionally speaking on women, and it is extememly lonely being the only one to give emotionally and not recieve. The only thing it seems we can rely on men for is money, but we can do that ourselves, thank you. Now that our society supports strong women and have the same, well almost (we still are only paid 75% of what men are), opportunities, we don’t need men as much for financial support. That’s why women are divorcing men more and more. It’s because we can support ourselves financially. So marriage is then valued on an emotional basis, and typically women are more in tune with their emotions, and men typically just don’t offer as much of that.
RE: Ann: “The only thing it seems we can rely on men for is money”
Give us a break Ann.!
According to the U.S. Department of Labor, more that 95 percent of the people in the 10 most dangerous jobs are men: from timber cutters to construction laborers. Coal miner, which is 99 percent men, isn’t even in the top 10. We are in an era, in which men are widely portrayed as boors, crooks, or at best, beer-guzzling football watchers.
The vast majority of people who work in iron foundries, coalmines, and other clanging, polluted environments are men. According to the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics, 92 percent of workplace deaths occur to men.
Yes, men, who are willing to go into our basement to eradicate a rat population, dig into our sewers to ensure our toilets don’t back up, fish the Icy Alaskan waters to catch the salmon the doctors urge us to eat, build the homes we live in, the buildings we work in, and the highways and vehicles that take us there. In today’s era in which so many features extol the contributions of women, I believe it’s fair to say that men are unsung heroes.
Yes men are dying every day. As we die from our hard efforts to bring money home to the family unit, women are spending that money as soon as we men earn it.
As regards to women being in touch with their emotions…..Oh boy….
Read this:
http://www.dumpyourwifenow.com/2007/03/02/the-key-to-understanding-modern-american-women/
A woman will always listen to her feelings, before and after she will listen to anything else (and also usually while she is listening to anything else). This means that, in order to get along well with a woman, a man must also constantly be listening to her feelings, and anticipating his behavior accordingly. In effect, women become emotional tyrants in relationships: everything in her life, and, by extension, in the life of anyone involved with her, ultimately ends up being ruled by whatever she happens to be feeling, whatever she thinks is right, and whatever she happens to want, from one moment to the next.
TSM, unfortunately not all of them are fugly
I like to think I’m pretty good looking.
I agree with the article though; ****** “me me me” comes first over anything else, like future plans/children. Women are notorious for “living in the moment” while most men actually plan their futures.
hmmm…
Help! My wife has put our 1st year wedding Anniversary plans on hold to spend time with co-workers instead. She always finds her co-workers are more important than me – even when she goes away on buisness trips, she wont bother to take my calls or return them?
I am constantly taking a back seat to her Professional co-workers. Thats all she ever talks about. I even found a picture with her and a male co-worker cheek to cheek at some buisness trip that her female boss had in her personal pictures. When I saw this picture and asked who this close friend was, her response was quite irritated “I am just a friendly outgoing person and that is how I express myself, what is the big deal”
Should I feel that these co-workers are better than me!
She just doesnt get it when I question her on these issues.
I Give Up!
Ann
If the cause for so much divorce is that women are able to support themselves financially, then why do they so often seek to take half?
LoL, He would still love that *****!!! What a Mangina!!!
Also, she writes with all the skill of a third grader. Learn to use punctuation before you tell me how to be controlled in my relationships.
P.S. – GG stands for Good Game. Because your farkin’ game is over!!! Good Game!!!
WoW! Thank you so much for this resource! In just the 3 days that I have had to use this as a resource, it has helped me twice and I am sure it will many more times in the future!!! I was charged with being bitter on my blog by my wife’s feminist friends who hide behind the flag of equality. She was telling me, I was bitter because I was upset at high pressure sales to raise money for breast cancer research when all I wanted to buy was a cup of coffee. The sales people wouldn’t drop the issue so I posted on it in my blog. And the attacks started flying. So I went to my new favorite site for defensive weaponry (dumpyourwifenow.com) and quoted code red while stating that my “feelings” are legitimate as any persons feelings are. I still have not gotten a reply back from her. I’m shocked really! LoL!
It’s the women who are lazy, who don’t cook for their husbands, and who are manipulative and conniving that makes us women like me look bad. They do make it worse for the rest of us honest, trustworthy, beautiful women who do believe in the blessed union of marriage for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, till death do us part.
I’ve lived with my boyfriend for four years now and he is not willing to marry me because he shares the same views with the rest of you on here, unfortunately. We’ve tried breaking up twice before, but never actually went through with it and I really don’t know why. He has never actually had a more honest and true relationship with another woman from his past until I came along. I think he just wants to have his cake and eat it too, but it is not fair to me because I don’t feel blessed in our relationship.
Cohabitation is not a good idea because it does make the man feel that he doesn’t have to try harder or at all if he can get what he wants because I’m so conveniently available for him. It pains my heart knowing that I am just a commodity with all the perks for him and that he truly doesn’t really value our relationship enough to commit to marriage.
I’m a great catch, except the fact remains that our society has created too many extra roles for men and women which compromises the value or importance of marriage. Marriage is too inconvenient nowdays for most men sadly to say.
I’d be interested in knowing the effect that a Pill for animals would have on the ecosystem of an animal population and how males and females behave.
It’s obvious that a kind of chaos develops with female ****** selection while they are on the Pill, as the whole dynamic of ****** selection for procreation is discarded.
I’d be interested in how a controlled, confined dog population would behave if the females were on chemicals that prevented ovulation.
Would the male dogs “stopped trying” and become apathetic towards the female dogs when they see their biological destiny is being bypassed? Would it have any unexpected consequences?
To MarriedNextWeek,
Please follow your hunch and do the poor girl a favor by not marrying her. Men aren’t meant to be married, especially in today’s male/father bashing society.
Men don’t do it! After my divorce I finally started getting back on my feet (even though my ex cleaned me out of everything I worked for all my life). I finally had a nice apartment, decent furniture, and some of my income. Heck, I was even investing and saving for my son’s college education. Being stupid, I thought I’d be happier the 2nd time around. It ain’t true… I find myself missing the freedom of sleeping alone, or with someone whenever I wanted and wherever I wanted. Missing the ability to go on a business trip and have fun without having to check in with the warden. Worse, yet I find myself broke again, while both my ex (and new wife) are sitting pretty.
Don’t be stupid marriage is against the natural order of things.
Hello, after 18+ years of marriage, and some hard knocks at work, my wife’s attitude has changed and she has turned from “loving” to “hateful.” Furthermore, she confesses and emails the whole world (friends) on how unhappy she is about me and starts creating a resentment amongst them too!
This is awful how can I make her pay for this?
right on bros they wanted it, lets let em have it.
Love and marriage were never the same. Marriage, like work is about finance, and self actualization, but primarily it’s about money. It was really intended for working class religious families to organize their resources and establish some kind of social order.
We have outgrown marriage as it was intended and women are better off working, whatever profession they choose whether it is motherhood or CEO, and yes being a mom/dad, or both is a serious occupation.
What I wish for all of you is a meaningful connection to someone who trusts you and inspires you to be better, safer, healthier and more alive than you’ll ever be alone or with someone else.
I feel for him. I, myself am going though the same thing! Some say your hands arn’t broken?
Well I have tried cleaning it myself but if she refuses to throw away anything. No matter who you are, you’re fighting a loosing battle!
I want to get out myself. This sure comes as a close second to living with a drunk!
Mine stays home. She’s a stay at home mom, so there’s no excuse!
Still I must work 12 hours a day then come home and clean too? And I just can’t keep up with it. This is taking a toll on my health as well as on my children. I am having them sleep in their bed and watch roaches crawl on their bed! But there’s nothing I can bring into the courts with this, to get myself and my children out of this trash dump! Being a man, I am in a major disadvantage.
HELP!!!
My response to geegee’s comments:
1) A man telling an American woman what to do… I thought that was domestic violence according to NOW and fem-nags.
2) Nagging is not the way to get someone to do something. Just as you don’t like being told what to do, we don’t like being told what to do (50 times).
3) We see what needs to be done, and we will take care of it when it fits our schedule.
4) So, men cheat because women are unhappy? Wow, I don’t know what logic you are using, but that is adding 2 + 2 and getting 17.4356732. So does that mean that when women cheat (and according to most current statistics women cheat more than men), that men are unhappy?
5) The most of the rest I can’t decipher, but you are correct it is a two way street. Too bad your post, and your attitude shows that you really don’t believe that though.
@Donuthole – I have dated three deaf women in the past and none of them wrote like that. All of them had been deaf from birth, so I don’t think that is the case.
The Pill, feminism, and entitlement aside, I love reading this blog as it always coinfirms what I’ve learned over the last two years – there is only ONE THING that will keep a woman in line. She must know, way down in her soul of souls, that her man has the style, and the skills necessary to replace her in a heartbeat. If she sees, everyday, that you can flirt with, and attract other women, just as you go through your life, then – and only then – will she continue to try and keep her man attracted. Once she feels like she has you, that you would die without her, and that you could never get someone as great as her again… all the trouble starts.
I know, I was that guy for 50 years. At age 50 I decided to finally get over my fear of approaching and meeting women and my life has never been better! I’m not some great-looking, aggressive, pushy guy, I’ve just learned to be more fun and social. Maybe a newer kind of Alpha male.
Once she knows and understands that you could go out and get a date with someone new tonight, she loses all control over you. You choose to be with her because she makes you happy and she’s fun. She knows that if she shows her b**** side too often that you can just find someone else.
She has to feel that you have options. And it’s not something you can tell her, she has to see and and feeling it in the way you interact with other people.
Why is a women demonized if she realizes that she and her husband may not have been a good match? I’m starting to realize this now, but I am a”femihag” or a “witch” for being pragmatic. Both our careers are hectic and demanding, yet some how I am expected to put my years of investment into a career (and student loans, which I am responsible for) in jeopardy because I am the mother and wife. I plan to divorce my husband as amicably as possible. Yes I want the house, but thats’ because this was my house first, its cheap and currently I make less income. However, I don’t want his pension or life insurance. The only spousal support I ask for is repayment of credit taken out in my name to start his business (if his business becomes successful). I want us to have joint custody because my husband is a great father. He is a wonderful man, but we just can’t make the relationship equitable. He’s not abusive, he’s intelligent, loves his kids, works hard. However, I know what is like to watch a wife and mother stayed married for children, building up mountains of resentment – it hurts the children the most.
I don’t spend anymore money than my husband – in a few years I will more than likely make more than he does. I don’t want his money – I just wanted happiness. Why must I subvert this basic human emotion to make sure that he is happy?
I’ve been thinking that the first wife gets “used” up – we support the man and his dreams, live through the hard financial and emotional times and bear children through these times. Keep the house clean and food on the table. We even work, usually out of economic necessity. But, this level of endurance is bound to dissipate, and soon we have very little left.
Signed – a tired young mother and wife just looking to be happy.
I treated my girlfriend to surprise gifts all the time, when I had the money.
I did, however, not big a big fuss of Valentine’s Day this year. I actually made her a card, and did not buy a gift because I was too busy working.
For Valentine’s Day, I received, from her, a 30G Ipod, a card, flowers, and no complaints. It was one of the most surprising and sweet presents I have eve received from a parter, because of the thought, and because it was completely unexpected.
We’ve treated each other often, I would bring home flowers, alcohol, sweets, and she would do the same (I happen to like flowers). We both enjoy beer and wine. We both enjoy eating out. When we went on a quick getway to St. Augustine, FL, she paid for the rooms (we ended up staying an extra night)!
She was unemployed for a while, during which time I took care of luxuries for her (our relationship had not moved towards cohabiting at that point). Now we do live together, I am unfortunately unemployed, and she is working.
I find this site very interesting, with some valid viewpoints. I do feel, however, that reacting to what the “feminazi’s” are putting out in the same spirit as their attacks is not quite what is needed.
Both my partner and I have previously been unhappily married. We attribute the positive state of our relationship together to learning more about ourselves and others from those experiences.
Is it perfect? Far from it. It does take work, on both sides, which is ultimately what we need. Individuals need to take personal responsibility for happiness, regardless of *** or gender, and if you can pursue those agendas with someone who’s lifestyle and personality compliments yours, and enriches it, then it’s a rare and beautiful thing.
Men and women needs to stop pointing fingers at each other, to stop expecting and demanding “happiness” from each other. Truly treat others as you wish to be treated, but expect nothing.
The Culture of Scapegoating needs to come to an end, in all aspects of life and society. I really wish it could happen, but thats the optimist within me.
This article should be labeled “Selfish Men” and most of these “Smart Men” will end up old single lonely men if they follow some of the things that this article states. The whole thing about a man living with a women that he finds second best well that is just plain Wrong, what a Jerk! It is never, and I repeat never okay to have a women living with you when you know she is second best! Even if this is verbally understood, woman view living together as the next step to marriage. I am ashamed at the way people raise their sons now. They have absolutley no respect for women at all! They are more concerned with money and material items, well guess what those things are not forever! This article seems to encourage men to use women and not to be open and honest. Who ever wrote this article needs to seek some type of counceling, because they have clearly had some past experiences with women that have led them to want to spread their bitterness to other men! Please stop! It is hard enough to find loving caring men these days with out you trying to taint their views.
What the hell are you idiots talking about? I love *** with my husband and yes I am good at it! But he is the one who is never in the mood. You can believe me or not, who cares! I am 5 ft 8, naturally blonde hair, blue eyes, size 2, was prom queen of my school. He says he loves me but never wants to (you know). How the hell is this happening? I am a very nice person. I’ve given him 2 beautiful children and have never got stretch marks anywhere or lost my intense need for ***. I have even offered to have a three-some with, if that would help… but no thankyou. Any advice?
Scott,
Dump her ***.
This is so ***. First of all sitting for me usually ends up with me spraying all over the floor so this hygiene thing is total ********. Then shaming a man into sitting by lying about getting fined and legal trouble is fraud and illegal coercian. If it ever ends up in an American restroom ill toss the buggers in the damn trash.
Men must practice mitigation strategies and stop putting themselves into a situation where they are at the mercy and whims of women. Clearly the message is getting out. As 12% of US men married foreign women last year. And nearly 24% of the other men refuse to ever marry. Seems the Marriage Strike to feminized American women is taking hold with a vengence. When it gets to 50% just wait and hear the howling and screaming, and hissy fits. I cannot wait. Will have cigars and cognac on hand to celebrate.
Feminists are indeed freeing men from the bull **** of American ***** women. If you want to know just how sick and insane. Read Pandagon or Feministing or the Reclusive Left. Where the femifascists still insist the Duke LaCrosse Players are guilty of ****.
Instead of legalizing ************, how about legalizing polygyny? Then at least a woman can’t complain about her man cheating and will have a say in who he is with? For the man, he doesn’t have to worry about not getting “any” because if his first wife doesn’t feel like it, he has another wife to turn to.
Yes, good stuff. One more important peace of advice – document, document & document! As soon as you feel something is definitely starting up, open up an event diary. Keep it safe. Any thing she says or does that is in anyway consequential, get it down. It’s all evidence in a court of law. Be aware that she may have been advised to do likewise, so your behaviour must be impeccable. Be cool & polite. Do not respond to provocation. Be calm & collected at all times.
Some wise words from Gene Simmons.
Gents,
In speaking of marriage, the refusal of American Men to jump under the bandwagon, and the apparent rising unease amongst women, I have to ask if anybody knows of this:
debbiemaken(dot)blogspot(dot)c o m
Ms. Maken is using the Bible to argue that men who refuse to marry, especially marry young, they are violating a direct edict from God. She has written a book aimed at Christian women, but it’s fundamental substance is an exhortation for women to begin “leading” men back to church, and via this mechanism (somehow) lead them to the altar. She deploys the usual shaming tactics against detractors, largely male, while her acolytes praise her like she’s the head of cult.
From what I understand, she is an attorney (surprised? Me neither) who waited until she was 28 years old. Yet by her reckoning, men need to grow up and assume the yoke.
Gentlemen, the impact is not as small as our enemies would have us believe. When whole cults are formed around getting men to walk into slavery. How long do you suppose before her ilk start gaining the ear of government? The Constitution is already in tatters, so how far before endentured servitude becomes the order of the day?
I’ve done both. caring for children and a home is not harder than working a full time career. Its all about keeping things organized and planning ahead. when I was home with my daughter the place was clean , healthy meals were on the table, my daughter got to every event on time, got good qualilty time with Daddy, and played at the park for a couple of hours every day. If you can project manage, you can be a SAHM(D)- its the same skillset.
Currently I am in graduate school and hold down an executive role with a global 50 company. I still find time to do fun things with my kids, take my wife out on dates, and do my share of housework/parenting. My wife does not work outside the home.
I basically learned the SAHM thing was a racket when I took over the at home parent duties (I was on paid leave for 6 months while we took care of some family issues). Basically, there was more than enough time during the day to take care of everything. She was spending an hour online, an hour talking to friends on the phone (mostly complaining about husbands), an hour shopping randomly and an hour in transit from place to place. Play dates were more Mommy time (the moms chat and drink coffee). In essence, half of the 9 hours I spent at the office she spent on herself. If you are doing the same, take a good hard look at how you spend your time. If it’s a full time job, then treat it as one. If I spent 4-5 hours a day jacking around at the office I would be fired.
Basically the root issue was that SHE did not value the things she did, so she resented doing them. She filled the day with self centered **** to fill the void she was feeling. Marriage counseling was a godsend for us. She figured out that her role was just as valuable as mine. She now focuses as much effort into being a mom / running the household, as she did when she was working outside the home.
My Marines!! My brothers, my good men!!
I am so sorry…..I am so sorry that this greedy THING, this filthy abomination, this stinking predator was a female, as I am, and an American, as I am.
I am deeply ashamed of this murdering creature!!
I….I hope “it” gets silicone poisoning!
Wow If I ever saw one of these devices… I would crush it with my boot.
You are a true expert, sir…
I’m in my mid 20’s and have always swore that I’d never get married and rather look for a gene simmons type situation…. ok, maybe gene is a bad example but you get the point.
Why even get yourself in the situation?
Read through this and passed the first floor, but settled with the second. A man who loves, especially his children as well as having the other attributes mentioned is I could ever want. Although, loving his children is more important than how much money he’s making or his religion or lack thereof.
After hinting at a seperation to my wife of 9 years, she wrote me a note talking about her “dedication to upholding our marriage vows,” and asked me “will you do the same?” Well, there were several major things I spoke to her about BEFORE we got married, and she promised me they would not be issues. Of course, they have become the MAIN problems, and for me, this means that she has NOT kept her vows to me.
One of these is the cleanliness of the my house. I mean, how freaking hard is it to simply pick up after yourself? Must you be reminded ALL the time?? Don’t get me wrong, it’s not just “darnit baby, you left a coke can out again!” That’s not what I mean – I mean the entire house is covered – if I step out of my bed at night to use the bathroom, I fall over clothes, baskets, glasses, garbage, used dishes, etc, etc. This is insane! What kind of person does this ****?
I’m sick and tired of being told that she’s “upholding our marriage vows.” Things are so messy here now that I don’t bother putting up every single thing I get out anymore, mainly because it doesn’t matter where I put it – it still looks the same!
I have done more than my fair share of “upholding my vows,” and I’m tired. I’ve been lied to. I may not have a prenup, but it doesn’t matter – I’m still broke as I ever was, if not more so – I’ve put her butt through college, working long hours at her insistance, not getting any emotional attention, everyone else coming before me; she gave me her spoken word, and that’s a binding contract in my opinion. I don’t easily give my word to ANYONE unless I really know that I am going to back it up.
I grew up with my parents ******** me over and over again with lies and broken promises, messed up houses, yelling/screaming/fighting and a variety of other problems – the result was that I CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE. I told her this BEFORE we got married and she said “All I want is to make you happy since you were treated so badly.” Now the only time I get “pampered” with affection is when I insinuate that I’m thinking about separation. This is absolutely unacceptable to me – I’m tired of being told I’m loved when there are no actions to back up that claim.
Great article – great website – keep it up
The womens’ posts here are excellent examples for men to see the truthfullness in this article. NCM’s post is a clear reminder of how it’s all about the money and Ann’s post is a textbook example of how women see a lot of men: As emotionless shells whose sole purpose is for women to suck them dry of their money.
pmydkm01’s posts have no evidence supporting anything. She sounds like a 15 year old women who found a dictionary. I particularly loved the way she berates others in her comments. She speaks of her hate for generalizations and then says it’s the fault of every man for being lazy and not taking up “their share of the burden.”
The burden being their wives, of course.
Women really do stick together, as you can see by these posts. obbop is 100% correct and I agree with everything he said. A LOT of shame tactics by some of the comments on this article. “self pitying men” came up a bit. Pretty much we’re trying to educate others and they’re saying “grow up (and eventually die from stress or your dangerous job). They don’t care about the men who have died from stressful work.
I noticed something and it’s that these women that post try to describe every bit of their life and how good of a person they are. Do we care if you see yourself as “intelligent” or “attractive” or if you’re straight or not. None of those things are relevand and yet they must start their comments out like that. What it seems to me is that they’re trying to make themself feel better by either fooling everyone else and thereby fooling themselves or just hoping that someone else will agree and they’ll be like fhew, I’m not one of the women described in this article.
A lot of commenters opinions being passed off as facts and I’m glad Reverand Porkchops (and any logical man) are seeing through the BS.
I need good ideas on how I should please my man in bed so that he cannot go for other women. I need this 13 ways a wife can please her husband so when we touch it makes him wild.
Great story!! Glad to see some new stuff on the site!! Keep up the great work guys.
To me I just didn’t make enough money. My wife left me for a “new life” without me in it and a 20,000 dollar raise. I only make 15 an hour. After the 200 dollars is taken off the top for the down payment on our house, there’s not much of a check left. 5 years into a 30 year mortgage. I wonder how the lawyers will work that out. I am a wreck now but I will be fine.
NCM, It sounds to me like the problem lies with you. You yourself admit that your husband is a good man. Thus, listening to your alleged “problem”, makes me wonder what on god’s green earth is going to make you “happier” by divorcing your “good man” husband? It seems to me that you are simply looking at the greener grass on the other side of the fence, but no one seemingly had told you that the reason why the grass is greener over there is because it’s fertilized with b.s.
The bottom line, which women need to understand, is that if the husband is not happy, then no one is happy. If you were a wise woman, you would focus your efforts and time to care for your husband’s happiness first and foremost, when he is happy then your happiness should naturally flow from his. But as you describe, you are like a typical western woman who can only focus solely upon her happiness, and blame all of your unhappiness upon your husband, thus your reason for divorcing your husband.
I am being pushed into marriage even though I have made it clear that I do not want to get married. Women will force you to get married saying things like “I love you.” Don’t fall for it. It’s a lie.
I like the idea of these devices. Often times when I lift up the seat, there isn’t anything to make it, oh I don’t know, more fun. BUT….a target to aim at, well that changes everything! Seeing that this device would be electrical, I don’t imagine it will react well to a stream of urine hitting it and of course if it doesn’t look damaged enough then you can always be a man about it: Throw it on the floor, crush it with your heel and then castigate yourself severely for allowing yourself to be lured into a home that would have one of these in it. Oh yeah, there’s also Plan B for witty men: if you see one of these, ignore the toilet and use the sink!
Ok…you’re complaining about women who stay at home with kids & here you’re complaining about women going to work: “choosing career and their own wants above all else.”. Obviously, you just don’t like women you complain either way. wah…wah…wah.
I think Ingrid said it the best. My great grandfather left the whole family never to be seen again. My 95 year old Gram still gets tears in her eyes talking about him. My grandfather was an alcoholic & on the other side Grand-dad killed himself. The women were always left to pick up the pieces & hold it together for everyone. I have a friend AND his Dad who both killed themselves. I have seen cowardice men yet I don’t chalk it up to all men being cowards.
I will NOT resort to being bitter & not liking all men & making generalizations as you all are. It’s ludicrous. There are strong, wonderful women AND men & damn awful ones also. You are limiting your lives with your bitterness & taking yourselves to the level of the women who hurt you. Get over it already.
You’re kidding, right?
Services, laws, and other special considerations exclusive to women are by their very definition helping the deceitful.
This apparently was designed on behalf of women who don’t want to clean up after men. It’s ineffective and obviously offensive to men. I understand that. Whiz any way you want, your aim will help. Just take responsibility for cleaning up after yourself.
Say you get the flu and have to blow chunks into the porcelain convenience. Do you wanna hang over a rim that is encrusted with yellowed bacteria? Oh, well you could barf with the seat down. Sure. it still splashes. Who cleans that up? Bottom line is this, take all the freedom of choice you want, but don’t expect a female to perform a responsibility that an adult male is perfectly capable of doing. If everyone takes responsibility for their own stuff, life would work better.
In current times a pre-nup may be advisable since today’s women may be more educated and self-reliant and have their own assets. So it depends on who you are involved with. I have a friend who was injured severely in a car accident, and though she is now, for all to see who don’t know her, a regular person, she has health issues that require her to have access to her $$$ she received in a settlement. This is a condition that will be with her the rest of her life. Thus, she needs a pre-nup if she were to marry, to protect her very life and well-being.
Aside from that, if you are not going to have children, why get married? What about living together and knowing each day that you are CHOOSING to be with this person again for another day? This is not to sound short-termed, but to create awareness of how you are together. Taking each other for granted is too easily a product of marriage. Why not a daily commitment, like when things were good while you were still dating? (The same things that get stilted when you marry. A kind of having caught the bus so you stop running?)
If you have children, that is another dimension entirely and their legal rights are paramount and the whole picture changes. Then if you choose to get married, you probably need to be most creative and broad-minded about how the pre-nup is worded.
Jensen, sounds like you got the major shaft from some woman that gives other women a bad name. I got the same treatment from a man who is her twin. I agree with your advice, having gone through the ringer, and it is best employed by either party — which ever is privy to this insight first.
“When she turns off, it’s not that she’s forgotten. It’s that she’s started to give up on the relationship.”
ncm, I’m totally relating to you. Marriage is so often a union of mis-matched personalities. We make the best of it, believing in our vows. We build a history and a family together, but finally we face the truth that we both made a mistake. We watch him long for what we are not designed to give him. We ourselves long for what is alien to him. Concern for the children keep the years accumulating.
we both need to be put out of our misery.
Guys, once the writing is on the wall, why can’t we recognize that our season together is over? It was most likely a mistake from the start, but we gave it our best shot together. If your’re so unhappy as to be always looking for the greener grass somewhere else isn’t it time for us both to find some life-giving experience elsewhere?
After 12 years of marriage my ex told me he didn’t love me and never really did, that he was pushing 40 when we met and he just wanted to be married. So he settled on me. He also said he never really liked me the whole time, but just kept hoping that he would as time went on. So much for the vows (which he never kept because he always had one foot outside our so-called commitment). So, yeah, when we divorced, I got half of everything, including support while I attended a university for a degree. And I feel that I deserved this much for what it ended up that I had signed on for.
I know that not all men are like this, but just as there are some women who are ****, so there are men who are also. I know they are all not that way, but my path has not encountered one personally. Don ‘t you guys find that marriage can be more lonely and filled with a sense of entrapment than being single? I do. Thus, today I am single and content. What drives so many of us to link up with the wrong people, I have no idea? I’ve had lots of theories, but life has shown that there is no formula. As mom used to say, “You pay your money and you takes your chances.” Just be careful out there if you still have the desire to link up with someone. Take your time. Use your gut and your common sense, and may luck be with you. It’s a thorny world out there among the roses.
“An episode from the first season of “Heroes” featured one such male character, with superpowers no less. Still, he was content to tag along in the rear as his aggressive female partner charged into a violent suspect’s home instead of calling for backup. The fact that she and other such female characters typically weigh only 90 pounds and have more intimidating hairdos than they do physical prowess seems to make little difference.”
hello, this is Fiction!
“When male characters do exhibit masculine traits on TV, they are often made to look like fools in the process. Sitcoms such as “According to Jim” and “King of Queens” — featuring overweight, average-looking husbands married to gorgeous, skinny wives — are a prime culprit. The man is usually portrayed as a complete schlub who couldn’t find his ear from his elbow without the guidance of his far intellectually superior wife.”
it’s about time men got jerked over this kind of portrayal of men!
“Whatever happened to the strong silent type? The male movie stars of yesteryear provided some good examples. Men with the quiet strength of Gary Cooper, the warmth and humility of Jimmy Stewart or the laconic toughness of Robert Mitchum were the real deal. Hold the tears.”
These were men of virtue, again, Fiction.
Why can’t people, including men of all ilks and design, just be who they are inside without all this programming of how some people think they should be? sounds like an awful lot of “shoulding” on yourselves.
Great views! But well, living alone is also not a healthy choice. People may prefer to stay with animals (pets) than living alone.
This article confirms something about men and women that I’ve known for awhile, and that’s the fact that women tend to be more…”hardened” by relationships than men. It starts out with what the sexes are generally taught about *** and relationships.
Men are often taught that *** is not a big deal unless it’s within a specific relationship (ie: marriage). Women, on the other hand, are taught that *** is important no matter who you do it with. But on the other hand, if a man pays lots of attention to a woman who he’s not having *** with, his wife or girlfriend may be more jealous than if he was simply having *** on the side simply because the “emotional connection” is there. Same goes for if a woman has a “great male friend” who she spends more time with than her husband or boyfriend. Many men will feel slightly jealous but would only get really threatened if she were having *** with the male friend.
Similarly, when it comes to relationships, girls are often sexually and hormonally ahead of boys simply due to biology. They talk about the boys they like with their girlfriends when boys are still free of such neurotic desires. And often, when the boys finally *do* get old enough to start having ****** and relationship desires, they’re hampered by a big problem: who can you talk to about relationships? Most male friends want to hear the breakdown of how much you made out, got to second base, or “went all the way”, but many men are specifically taught to feel uncomfortable with the dynamics of a relationship. So, they go to the next best thing; actions and events. Instead of thinking necessarily how his wife might be feeling (which, due to the emotional submissiveness that is programmed into most women, is hidden by the woman meticulously so he’s supposed to psychically know that she’s upset while acting cheerful), he judges his success in the relationship by the activities he does with his wife or his children. If his wife is smiling as she brings dinner to the table or laughs at one of his jokes, how the hell is he to know she’s brooding and really just wants him to give her a back rub or kiss her neck?
The truth is, that most of our traditional gender roles practically FORCE men and women to slowly but surely cut each other off and kill the relationship between them.
*sarcasm* And heaven forbid that the marriage or relationship look anything less than “perfect”, because if you have a fight or an argument, that must mean that the relationship is over! *sarcasm*
In the end, I can see where a lot of women might want to leave their husbands because it’s really not “doing it” for them anymore. Or they feel that they simply have the “right” to be ******** to their husbands just like some past husbands have traditionally been ******** to their past wives.
However, this “getting even” behavior really doesn’t tend to work. And as I’ve said before, most women try using manipulation and nuances to hint at what they want, rather than coming out and saying it. She may rather get a divorce than work things out and have the man yell at her or attack her verbally, which is simply not the way that she is used to doing it, while being subtle, hinting, and using manipulative diplomatic language is usually not the first thing on a man’s mind when his wife goes on about how she wants to leave.
So in the end, I suggest a compromise. Everyone has something to work on, so I suggest that you ask the woman in the relationship in a non confrontational way that she be open, honest, and glib when it comes to what she wants in the relationship. You want her to be explicit when she desires something because you’re not psychic. And believe me, most women don’t seem to be able to understand this until someone says it to their faces.
And in return, tell her that you will try to become better tuned at “reading people” (which is a good skill to have anyway), by trying to understand that her behavior may not always dictate her mental state.
Even in healthy relationships, there are problems, so I also suggest that if you’re upset at each other, you need to sit down and discuss things like adults. Keep it on subject (no letting one person or both getting into a “hate fest” or a “blame fest”), and lay out the problem, as well as possible solutions. So many people seem to think that if you have a “perfect” relationship that means that no one is ever angry or fights, but that usually just means that both people resent one another and are silently brooding, which is not healthy.
I whole heartedly agree that prenuptial agreements are important. Many people get married thinking that they can “change” the person they’re marrying about important issues like; having kids, having pets, living in another state, not being a workaholic, or whatever. Having a big list of what the relationship entails (as well as legal stuff in the event of a spouse’s death, or divorce) is very smart so that both parties know to some extent what they’re getting into.
It’s smart for men, it’s smart for women. I think that a prenuptial to some extent should be legally required with a marriage license.
After all, it’s better to be safe than sorry because you were “young and blind with love.”
Who, honestly….listens to their parents?
I suppose dad could “step up to the plate” for his “delinquent” son, no?
Ahhhhh….but that’s a whole other issue, isn’t it? Let mom do all the work and let mom take alllll the responsibility for how her kids turn out.
Peh…this is a created bias on a personal issue.
Great post.
I resent Ann’s comment that all we need men for is money…and not even that. This is much of what’s wrong with marriage today, that type of attitude.
and ncm…
There are times in all marriages when things aren’t great, but if you’re unhappy, you need to fix that problem, it’s not your husband’s responsibility to make you happy. You’re never going to find that perfect person, because he doesn’t exist. If you have a family together, and he treats you well, then you should make it work. Chances are that in time, things will improve, especially if you start finding ways to be happy with yourself, without expecting to get that from somebody else. IMO, finding out your husband is only human is not an acceptable reason to end your marriage and put your children through a divorce.
Plastic Surgery is just for ugly people. Never date a girl who had surgery (try to find out if she did).
These women are “false” products.
High Heels – you ain’t that tall
Makeup – you don’t look like that.
Hair – it’s not that color or that thick
Teeth – they’re not that white
boobs – they’re not that big & firm
Fake lashes, nails, tits, etc, etc, etc
Take it all away and you have nothing.
Fine…Not happy and want a divorce? Great, go for it.
But if he’s paying the mortgage, he gets the house.
If you have kids, and you want free and easy, let him take them.
If you have no marketable skills and thus are unemployable, move in with mom and dad and go back to school. Don’t dun him for your lifestyle choices.
The point is not the devastation of losing a wife that bothers us half as much as being made a fool of for x number of years, and still being made responsible for funding her way towards “a happier life”.
The bottom line: you want out of the marriage, get out of his life entirely.
Guys, diz makes one good point: marriage will ultimately lead to being more lonely than being single. Do not marry as you will regret it in time.
“The only thing it seems we can rely on men for is money, but we can do that ourselves, thank you.”
If that were true, then there’s no need for alimony or child support, right?
This woman is from the pit of hell and is the poster child of women who literally get away with murder. If this was a guy he’d hang, but she is a free woman, what a travesty!
I’m a woman and agree with this article. I initiated a pre-nup with my fiance so that money will never be a reason we are together. I also agree that any woman who wouldn’t sign a pre-nup has made her choice to marry at least in part based on the lifestyle – marrying the man promises. You aren’t buying her (or are you?) so money should not be a factor. Pre-nups provide an opportunity to focus on what’s important to one another. If a woman is insulted by a pre-nup, I think she has something to hide. (Her expectation that she will be entitled regardless of whether or not you live your entire lives together).
I feel for all of you guys! I’m really disgusted by what i see.
Finally someone with brains, guts & conviction puts together a much needed program that will help men through their divorce. Although the “LAW” is supposed to be gender neutral, I feel women get their way in divorce much too often and a product like this is sorrily needed.
Looks like our brothers now have a chance to emerge victorious and intact financially, emotionally & hopefully with an equal share of custody of their children.
I mean it.. You are doing something really good for all these men that are literally being stepped on and abused, ashamed of coming out.
I just knew that somehow something of that sort was going to happen. The dogs have been kicked in the teeth long enough. Now is biting back time. It’s gonna get rock and roll.
As someone whos had my *** handed to me by a former boyfriend, this makes me sick.
That someone would use something like this for gain is disgusting.
I don’t understand this backlash against plastic surgery and I don’t think I ever will. And this does not mean that, I, myself endorse it or am against it. I just don’t understand how, what a person does for themselves, to themselves is anybody’s business.
To get you all riled up or so you don’t think I am trying to hide anything I will tell you that my fiancée had large jubblies and she also elected for jubbly implant surgery because she felt she was losing some of that perky quality that her friends with smaller jubblies have. She is currently a 34FF/34G and a petite 5ft 2, 120ish-lbs and I can hear the jokes coming.
I think some of you really seem to have a big problem with jubbly implants. I’m trying to think why? I understand the potential sociological & psychological implications that are always thrust on these women as if they have no mind of their own. And you know, maybe some of them don’t, maybe most of them don’t but because some or most do it for what may be the wrong reasons, does that make it wrong for everyone? Apparently, so. My guess would be that some of you are those that would make an obnoxious comment or roll there eyes at my fiancée. Why? What’s the point? Why is it so important to seem to be superior? Usually this stems from people who have low self-esteem and like to lash out against others or others who are different. Perhaps I’m wrong.
“I support a woman’s right to choose whatever she wants to do to her body, but I would urge you to look into the social and psychological side effects as well as the physical ones.”
This seems to be the same type of response I have seen on other blogs. One woman went on and on where it seemed like she was going to explode about how “evil” jubbly implants were and wanted to start a group against them. I told her, Let me ask you something…. How much work do you do espousing the evils of unprotected *** in your local community? I’m sure you must because more women die each year because of having unprotected *** than getting jubbly implants and I know that you said it yourself that “there are more important issues to spend time and money on besides enhancing jubblies” so I am guessing that you spend a lot of time helping them and donate a lot of money as well. Also, are you a MADD supporter? Because you know that more people each year by getting into an accident with a drunk driver than into an accident with fake jubblies. So with this money you have saved and all this time you have because of not getting jubbly implants, enlighten us with all your accomplishments. I think you see where we are going here so unless you are Mother Teresa I think you are basically just using the drama of your statement very haphazardly. I always love to hear the holier than though talking about the evils of the world while they are snacking on potato chips and watching “Joey”.
Anyway, it should be everyone’s choice to do what they want to themselves in my mind. You want to kill yourself? Go ahead, but think about it first and make sure you are making the right decision. You want to put tattoo’s all over your body. Go ahead but think about it first. I don’t like tattoo’s at all but Im not going to go on a rampage about it. I don’t have any numbers to back this up but I would bet there are some people that die each year because of poorly sterilized tattoo needles or infections from them, no? Think about the repercussions of what you are going to do and than make an “adult” decision about it or at least as much of an adult decision you are capable of. I do think you should have to be of a certain age and personally I think 18 is too young so that seems to fall more on the ethics of the doctors than the patient. And yes, I often question the ethics of the medical profession but it is what it is. To somewhat quote one of our posters, It would seem that there are more important things to do than worry about some other woman’s jubblies and if they are fake or not. Who cares? Get on with your life! As long as you are happy that’s all that matters. I would be equally as angry if someone made a rude comment about my fiancées big jubblies or your small jubblies. It’s just obnoxious behavior and done be feeble little minds.
One person said, We talk about the dangers of surgery for what you get out of it… “bigger jubblies” but let me pose this. If you could have a surgical procedure down where you could double your intelligence and it would be as risky as that of the surgery of jubbly implants… would you do it? If you could have surgery that would allow you to live twice as long, where at 86.4 years you would look and feel 33.2 years old or at 172.8 years old you would look and feel 86.4 years old, (Dow better get working on that.. I don’t think I want to see that
)with the same risks that would be taken under normal jubbly implant surgery, would you do it? Let’s be realistic. I think most of us would and even if most of us wouldn’t why shouldn’t that be offered to those would like that option?
Ok, lastly, Because I know this is going to degenerate into the “physical beauty” is not as important as spiritual, intellectual blah blah. Any idiot can see that we put a greater value on our perceived physical beauty in America as witnessed by the 2 dopes, Bush & Clinton we elected into office over the last 15 years but I don’t want this to turn into a political discussion. But let’s talk about beauty or perceived beauty.
Every culture has a different view of what beauty the hispanic culture typically founds a larger tush appealing, in some tribes they have the neck rings which make the neck extremely long, not my idea of beauty but to some like it. The reason women get jubbly implants.. I’m going out on a limb here… They for some reason do not like their jubblies? Some people will say it’s vanity. And I think that is 100% hypocritical. I don’t think there is a person around that does not try to look “good” for the people around them. Otherwise we would spend time buying clothes, trying them on, seeing if they fit, “just right”, putting on make up, getting their haircut yada yada yada. This is all done to attract the opposite *** or same ***, what have you. We can debate on and on over what is worse, the risks of surgery or that four thousand dollars that was spent on that new wardrobe when your credit cards are maxed out. Each presents a risk and each person needs to determine their own risk.
Each person determines what their own idea of beauty is. It’s like saying that Van Gogh is better than Renoir or that Bresson is better than Dreyer or for that matter that Adam Sandler is funnier than Albert Brooks “UG”. The point is that the one thing we are very lucky is the fact that we have the right to choose. As much as I have tremendous amount of disdain for the media-produced, non-thinking presidential puppets we parade, the one thing we still have, is the right to think as we please. So far………
Move on to more important issues. As Hegel states: The higher truth lies somewhere in the middle of two extremes. In this instance that may be between “A” and “HHH”
Pre-nups are great! As long as they spell out what the woman will get if there is a divorce, SUPER! But um, only an idiot would marry a man who tries to make her sign a paper saying that after he uses her for a ****-toy for a while she can be tossed aside with nothing.
Make them sign the pre-nups ladies! And make sure you’re protected for when the ******* throws you out!!!
OK guys and gals – experience tells me that our partners are not at all responsible for our happiness. Those who leave their spouse to be relieved of boredom or to bring the possibility of happiness are mistaken. Whether you are with someone or alone, you must take out your internal trash and do the necessary things to maintain your own mental health and happiness. Then you can share this with your partner.
Polarizing should be limited to *** – because if we polarize again, as men and women, the the right wrong scenarios will begin and the dominant of the two polarities will take control of the working markets and trade agai.. This is not a new phenomenon, but has repeated itself historically.
What I believe is missing here is humility, from both sexes. I must admit that my experience is that men are more stable emotionally than women and that I wouldn’t have put my heart in my own mothers hands – her intense vacillation and harbored hatred would have killed me.
Has anyone here ever heard of the Collective Female Pain Body ?- Read Ekhart Tolle …Awesome.
Clare,
before you feel too sick, have a look at the way some (and for some read a hell of a lot of) women act.
Shelters for women are definitely necessary, but so is the relationship between a father and his children.
Thanks for the post. You have been through the mill, and that is some expensive sound advice.
Another BIG BIG heads up – I hear about people thinking that marrying a woman from outside the US is going to be different. They are the same species, and if the country they are from is poorer than the US, could it be that they are marrying for money?
The only difference can be that they start scheming at the start of the relationship, or even before.
One more warning – in some countries e.g. Brazil, just living together is enough for you to be shafted, you don’t even have to be married.
In Jensen’s follow-up post, he speaks of lots of mail from women who are aghast that any man could be so “mean” in dealing with a divorce…the children suffer, they only want what’s fair and the ever-popular not-all-women-are-like-that (yawn…zzzz…).
What he goes on to mention is that all of these tactics were taken from a book intended for women contemplating divorce. Apparently, it’s okay for women to scheme it up like this, but not men.
As far as not all women (blah blah blah), the point is not whether a majority or minority of women would embrace such means or not. The very real point is that society as a whole gives women enough of a pass in their behavior to signify it’s approval of their taking such recourse. Divorce is a legal affair, not an emotional one. Whenever one enters into a court room, they enter a battlefield where it’s fight or die. What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
I say that men have been far too nice in taking their lumps in the arenas of public and legal discourse. The tide is turning, and men are beginning to wake up to the reality of their enemies. It’s time, gentlemen…time to begin surviving and meting out our own brand of just and equitable treatment.
Pre-Nups are great in theory. They are more often than not set aside at the time of divorce, particularly if the terms of the agreement stipulate that the man gets anything that could be construed as fair and equitable division of property. Women commonly claim that they felt coerced into signing as a condition of the marriage going forward, and the mangina judges say “Oh, you poor bullied dear”.
A roll of toilet paper has more worth than a pre-nup.
As far as men using women as ***toys and then casting them aside, most divorces are initiated by women for no other reason than their husbands are continuously delighting them in their lives (i.e. they feeeeeel unfulfilled) or more likely she is a subscriber to AshleyMadison (dot) com and has gotten herself something going on the side.
I’m all for equal division of jointly acquired property, but it had damned well better be 50/50. Anything they brought into the marriage independently immediately reverts back to them. If he bought the house, she has no rights to it whatsoever. If she did, then he doesn’t have a stake in it either.
Jim,
The co-workers are not better than you. Only if you allow them or your non-wife to take that position will you be cast in that light. I say don’t let them do that to you.
By what you say, I have to wonder why she agreed to marriage in the first place. She doesn’t give a **** about you or how you feel, and it’s all about her feelings. In a committed relationship, it is not wrong to expect that one’s partner confer special consideration onto the other in a way that they do not with anyone else; any and all resistance to that is a pure indicator that one does not matter in the least. That is what is happening with you.
I know you love her, but she clearly is more concerned about cheeking it up with other men than giving creedence to anything you might feel. Her boss is probably encouraging her in all of this, as it would hurt your marriage and the company can monopolize her time and energy without conscience.
I’m sorry to say thus, dude…but be prepared to find out about her cheating on you with one of these sleaze-*****. If your feelings can be cast aside without discussion or acknowledgement, she will have no compunction to really run roughshod over you. I suggest strongly that you give her an ultimatum to sit down and talk about all of this. If she refuses, tell her that she just made a huge mistake, and it will cost her dearly. Talk to a lawyer, and let her know that you are.
Don’t let her do this to you. Assert yourself and defend your emotional well-being. You needn’t give up entirely on the marriage, but if you let things go the way they are, it will come to an end without your input. If it ends anyway, then make it a situation where you have equal control in the decision. Gather some support around you in the form of friends and family…it sounds like you’re gonna need them.
Great, so now we’re not only fighting feminists, we’re fighting masculinists. Why not just stand up to the feminists? Get your male behinds (also the fems that back you up) on television, radio, and everywhere else and start demanding the respect you deserve!! I know it’s not in the male to fight against women, but sometimes a woman needs help to snap out of it.
When Paul McCarney sings “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer” today, his face contorts with anger, he swears incessantly, throws his guitar to the floor and walks off the stage screaming and yelling.
LMAO
“If you ask her to do something she doesn’t enjoy, that’s domination. If she asks you, it’s a favor.”
Google ‘Mary Winkler‘ and you’ll realize why this statement is 100 percent true.
“But to actually want a legal reason for divorcing on the grounds of, “She is not sleeping with me,” is ridiculous!”
Right, because we wouldn’t EVER want a woman to have to take responsibility for engaging in a legal contract that stipulates *** will be involved. Heck, you’re right! Why should a woman ever have to take any kind of responsibility for her own actions? Here’s a hint Jared; with “equality” comes responsibility. Instead of being some uber-mangina; try dealing with reality… you’ll live longer.
Holy She-it!
Ya just got to wonder.
Great web-site!
Keep it up!
Informative and amusing (about “womyns’ tactics that is!)
FT
Great advice! I can attest to the preemption tweak-out
If I didn’t know any better, I’d say our author might have his own personal vietnam like the rest of us 
I think I’m in the same boat with you, Pablo. Good luck to you man. I’m gonna have to consider the alternative as well. I’m glad I got to see all these writings. I couldn’t really place a description on her BS… until now.
Tmz is reporting that daughter,Ashley Perrin, has been killed in a traffic accident this week. How very tragic! She leaves behind an 8 year old daughter.
http://hammondstar.com/articles/2007/09/26/top_stories/9537.txt
A one-vehicle traffic accident claimed the life of 25-year-old Ashley Perrin of Ponchatoula Tuesday afternoon.
Perrin, of 525 Kathleen St., died on the Interstate 55 Southeast Service Road in Ponchatoula. Police Lt. Raymond Mauterer said the accident happened about 2:30 p.m.
She was alone in a mini van when it hit the guard rail while traveling north on the service road. The roadway showed no skid marks, Mauterer said, and the cause of the accident is unknown at this time.
She was ejected from the vehicle and was dead at the scene, Mauterer said.
Drugs or alcohol are not suspected, he said.
Perrin is the daughter of Marguerite Perrin, who gained national recognition for her role in the Fox television series “Trading Spouses.”
Although we are guilty of poking fun at The God Warrior (which we believe she didn’t mind judging by the way she hammed it up on additional talk show appearances), nonetheless… a parent should NEVER have to bury a child. The staff here at DYWN are truly saddened to hear the news of Ashley’s passing. Ashley seemed like a smart and caring woman on the TV show. We truly wish the Perrin family our condolences in their time of grief.
This should have come out YEARS ago. I have an uncle who had a nervous breakdown and almost died while going through a divorce and wrangling with the psychotic divorce courts/lawyers.
I am a SAHM of two young children.
Not all SAHMs are fat, lazy, ungrateful slobs, as you portray them to be. I work hard from the time my children get up in the morning, until they go to bed at night. I have great respect for how hard my husband works, and I am very careful with the money he earns.
I do the laundry (including washing cloth diapers) cleaning, bill-paying and gardening. I cook every meal from scratch, usually while holding my baby on one hip. I make and freeze my own baby food, and my child is exclusively breastfed to avoid the purchase of formula. I keep a price book, so that all necessities are purchased as cheaply as possible. Nearly all of my children’s clothing is purchased at garage sales. I rarely shop (except for food), never make social phone calls, and never buy anything for myself. In fact, I rarely do anything for myself at all.
Being a SAHM is no picnic. It’s exhausting, boring, and repetitive. There are no breaks. Our work is unappreciated, and people like you try your best to make us feel completely worthless. Despite all of this, we willingly sacrifice years of our lives because we love our children and want what is best for them. There is simply no substitute for parents in the life of a young child.
Fortunately, my husband knows this. He is a genuinely good man, and not because he’s a “good provider.” He puts his family first over the almighty dollar, and he respects me and the work that I do for our family.
Forgive my wordiness that follows, but I am a woman after all (smile)…
Not only is the pill to blame, but so is feminism, rejection of Christian values, and the denial of innate masculine and feminine hard-wiring (manifested in behavior). Put simply, many women don’t behave like real women these days, and likewise, many men don’t behave like real men. People are confused as to their true nature and our roles are all screwed up thanks to the influences mentioned at the start of this post. My generation (I am 32) on down is paying the price for something that we didn’t create, but have been force-fed through post-1960s socialization.
Women are not designed to mannishly engage in casual *** with multiple, temporary partners, chase after men, or put objects (i.e. career and material things) before people (i.e. relationships). Likewise, men are not designed to be ***-crazed skirt-chasers bent on sticking it to as many women as they can. Evolution is a farce and doesn’t satisfactorily address a vital component of human nature: we are spiritual as well as physical beings. We all seem to forget that, and treat each other like soulless animals without dignity and respect.
Nonetheless, none of this surprising nor accidental: I believe that what we are now facing was by design. It’s sad, but there are enough of us good ones–men and women–out there to tap into our true identities and build faithful and fruitful relationships with each other.
Prenuptial agreements have no place in a marriage–any marriage. If a man desires trust from his wife-to-be (as the writer of this articles purports), he should trust her as well. A prenup is a sure sign that the man who wants one doesn’t have much for the woman he claims to love and wants to marry.
The problem? Men and women don’t take the time to choose wisely for a spouse. They try to take the easy route (i.e. men focus on her appearance to the exclusion of other, far more important criteria, while women focus on his wallet and what he can give her materially to the exclusion of far more important criteria) and then try to cover their butt with a prenup. It doesn’t work.
It seems to me instead that you should find a person whom you can trust and marry her/him. If you think you’ll need a prenup, you’re probably marrying the wrong person. Furthermore, if you have trust issues, you are probably the wrong person for her/him to marry as well.
Feminism is evil. Men and women need to overcome this evil with good in two important ways: 1) get back to our biological masculinity and femininity; and 2) make wiser choices for romantic/marriage partners.
All true, I was played like a cheap fiddle in my divorce. One has to get vicious, and there is no better word. No one else will look after you.
Family law sucks…The police suck. If you’re a man you’re the bad guy.
I met a troubled woman who used to be a stripper and a drug addict. She had a criminal record and a history of alcoholism and ************ in her family. I didn’t know much about her past when she became pregnant.
So after 1 year of hell, I obtained a court order in order to have custody of my little girls so that she wouldn’t be taken interstate. This woman called the police and fabricated allegations of domestic violence. I was arrested and photographed as a criminal. The ironic thing is I work for the Police myself! I never had any problems with the law, and this woman was able to manipulate not only the police but the family law system at her will.
Solicitors had recommended her to do so in order to gain custody of our daughter back.
The charges were dropped and I was given 1 year of good behaviour. I’m still with her playing possum. She apologized and wanted me back… once she got what she wanted.
I feared that if I left her then she wouldn’t have dropped the false claims. I almost lost my job and my daughter forever.
In February once the probation is over, I’m getting the hell out of here. I feel so sad for my little ones, but what can I do when the system and the law uphold the injustice for men in general?
Too bad that the internet with all the wealth of information on how much of a lousy deal marriage is for men and how in general what worthless mates the most american women make was not widely available when I met my parasite of wife about 10 years ago. If I had had the benefit of this and other websites regarding such matters, I would have made a business decision not to get married or have children. Instead I made the mistake of marrying some financially impaired drama queen with an entitlement mentality and I have seen a good bit of my net worth evaporate. If I leave her I will likely lose half or more of what is left of my assets and be forced to pay unreasonable amounts of child support for my son. While I love my son and understand that I have an obligation to him – where’s my wife’s obligation to help support him? Why is it that a woman’s dream of motherhood transalates into a man solely bearing the back breaking financial overhead and lifetime of being a wage slave.
I wonder if, as the numbers of us who go through divorce increase, this will become the norm of living. I know that it’s really going that way already and seems unstoppable…but perhaps when it becomes the norm, the pain expressed in this post will be dulled. As it is, whatever heartache an individual experiences out of divorce, it seems to pass much quicker than expected. Perhaps we will reach a point where it won’t hurt at all.
Once marriage becomes extinct, then maybe we can just live without the invevitable pain.
Hey great, So you’ve got a happy marriage where your man gets all the *** he could ever want or need.
By the way…what color is the sky on your planet?
Even if what you say is the truth, what makes you think this is typical of women? It’s really very simple:
*** costs, one way or another. Whether it’s money directly, or a pre-configured lifestyle, or an early grave earned from hump-busting at work to afford it all, it costs. We like to pretend otherwise, but then maybe that’s how some of us can look into the mirror in the morning without retching.
Men usually have money. Women usually have the necessary orifices. We each have what the other wants. You can moralize about the shallowness of men all you want, but it doesn’t do anything to deflect light off of women’s own shallowness. At least prosties and johns are cutting through the emotional blackmail. Just remember…men don’t pay the pros for s*x…they pay them to leave after the s*x is done.
Women are tired from caring for their families all day long…HA!
Like that happens.
Thank you Christian J for the fine post.
You just described my ex-wife, who 10 years after our divorce (at her insistence) has yet to meet a satisfactory man or have any children. Raised as a “princess” and bent on a professional career, no man was good enough. It was the same story with her first husband, who lasted just a little longer than I did. She’s in her mid-40’s now. Plenty of education, money, and travel experience, but no family and no prospects–living alone in a white condo-box with her cats. One of the most selfish people I’ve ever met.
With my eyes now open, there’s no way in hell I would marry or even date a typical Western women from the US, Canada, Australia, Scandinavia, etc. I’m not saying they are all bad, but the risk of a miserable outcome is just too high.
In contrast, my girlfriend, born and raised in Mexico, is delightful and compassionate. After seven years, there’s never been a real argument, and we still hold hands walking down the street. For me, traditional women that have not been poisoned by feminism and media influences are the only way to go. For you younger guys out there, all I have to say is forget about these selfish gringas, just walk away, you can do MUCH better elsewhere, such as Mexico or Latin America. Good luck!
I love your website. I am a lawyer but I do not do family law. I used to. One bit of advice I think is very important is this: NEVER, EVER hit your wife, even in retaliation. I’ve had several clients who swear (and I believe them) that their wife preempted a fight by throwing punches, dishes, and slaps at them. And the second the husband pushed her away, or otherwise retaliated…DV time (domestic violence charge). This DV charge can torpedo any chance at child custody and can possibly prevent you from seeking alimony if she makes more money than you.
If she hits YOU, you hit her with a DV action. Not with your fist. A DV action will leave a mark that won’t go away.
If you’re pissed at her, the best place to fight is in a court room using many of the techniques you will read on this website. Fighting with her through words, threats, or fists is a LOSING STRATEGY. If you really want to make her pay, do it through the courts.
Some people actually stay home with their children because they love them and want to raise them instead of handing them over to inadequate care givers that could care less about your child.
I’ve never been married, but even girlfriends treat me this way. As soon as they get bored or think they can do better, they are gone, but will lie to me the entire time saying everything is fine until I am notified I am dumped. I usually realize it’s coming, but I ask them what’s wrong, they deny anything is wrong, then I get told things aren’t working out and nothing can change it, and basically they have a new boyfriend the next day. I don’t think they understand the concept of loyalty and are so self absorbed.
I’m shocked how well these articles describe my ex-girlfriend, and ex-girlfriends in the past. It’s going to suck being celibate but I’m not into casual relationships, which seems to be the only way to not have your heart broken these days. I’m just sick of being constantly lied to.
It’s a mistake in life to think everyone plays by the golden rule. They simply do not. My view of humanity has been totally destroyed. I’m sure men can be terrible too, but I’ve found them to be far more honest. I just don’t see how a man can even manage to get married these days, given the fact that women change their minds ever 5 seconds.
At least I avoided divorce, but how do you get even that far?
GeeGee:
I’m not going to pull any punches here. Your writing is awful! You can’t possibly think that your lack of punctuation and sentence structures qualifies you as superior. If you want your opinion to be taken seriously, at least proofread and spellcheck so that you are understood by your intended audience (something else women don’t seem to get right).
This is part of the reason why I just stopped. I couldn’t go forth with meeting anyone new because during the initial conversations, I had to hear their drivel about marriage and commitment and what men won’t do. When women are posed with the question of “what’s in it (relationship) for me (male),” then it becomes a very short and fragmented discussion. Usually there is nothing in it for us. ***? Yeah but only when she feels like it. If I for once think that it will be a regular thing, then I have to be willing to first endure their emotional babble about how tired, achy, upset, depressed or whatever that they are. Rationing cooch is one certain way to make a man under appreciate you. I can’t deal with the princesses and empresses anymore. Let these other saps have em.
I know a man who got kicked out of his own house, was accused of child molestation on his own daughter. He went through all the pains that so many are familiar with. For his good fortune, he joined a Men’s Rights Association and after a bitter battle with a defective justice system and having spent more than $100K, he got his home back and sole custody of his daughter.
His ex-wife bit the dust. The pain has alleviated and everything is back in order for the victim (the man). So, there is hope, but you must be prepared to : 1-Pay a hefty sum of money and 2- Fight like a dog.
I tend to agree. Males tend to gravitate towards females that they are capable of mentally, physically, or emotionally dominating, and the opposite seems to be true of women. They seem to be greatly oriented towards the kind of male that is capable of dominating THEM, and seem to spend a great amount of their time dwelling on the procreative, or ****** aspects of their lives. the highly dominant, aggressive, sexually-oriented male seems to be the most attractive to them, but the same kind of male is also the most likely to ‘wander’ since it is in their best interests, biologically, to spread their genes as far as possible before they die.
There is a difference between ‘play domination’ and ‘true domination’ and the successful non-alpha males that learn this difference are the likeliest to be successful.
This doesn’t mean that adultery is a good idea, since honesty, honor, and fidelity are still highly valued traits, but this DOES mean that a male needs to ensure that their options remain open.
What this means is that you should make sure that you maintain control over your life, not your wife. If you allow your lady to control you through ***, finances, social manipulation, or even guilt you have become immediately less attractive in her eyes. This does not mean that you should diss responsibilities, but that you need to make sure that YOU are the one that chooses to maintain these responsibilities instead of letting her dictate them to you.
You need to stop taking things for granted. And you have to make sure that she does not take them for granted either. ’saturday night ***’ is a bad idea, each attempt should be a seduction, not a grind… for both you and for her. If that means you need to ‘cut her off for a while’ then you should do so so that she realizes that you are your own person.
Two married people do not become ‘whole’, they are still two people who simply chose to take the same path for their life with each other. Reaffirm constantly that you are both your own person and that you are with her because you choose to…not because you have no choice.
It’s a delicate, tough bridge to travel on, but the rewards are certainly worth the trip in the long run. especially for those that are not gifted with monstrous abs and a monster chin.
(Hint, it also helps if you try dating girls that are not particularly interested in the pill)
Well, truthfully I am fairly happily married, but since I am a roleplaying gamer, and so is she, and a computer geek and so is she, and into BDSM…etc. etc. etc. we get along pretty well. I am not just her husband, but her game master and the guy that helps powerlevel her in WoW.
I think I just got lucky in finding a woman as autistic as I am. been together 12 years and we can still find new ways to abuse each other. it’s pretty cool. I am here because I am still having to deal with an ex that ’snuck one up on me’ and mortgaged my life. walked out right after the baby was born, moved to the other side of the country, and presented me with child support papers in insane amounts barely two months later.
Not all women are psychopathic, but I will freely admit that the great majority seem to have been screwed up by their upbringing into thinking that men are only useful for ‘financial independence’.
Ok, so maybe a different light… I’ve been married for almost 5 years. Of which, in the last 30 months. yes, months. I’ve had ****** relations with my husband TWICE. and thats only because I got desperate and drunk. Prior to the kids (3.5 and not quite 1. one of the 2x in the last nearly 3 years) I was always the aggressor….but with the kids and my job, i’m just too tired to be rebuffed after a hour of trying, every day for 1-2-3 months before getting any. I bring home double his income, and do about 90% of the housework, bills, banking, dr appts for HIM as well as the kids, etc. Basically, i’m the wife and husband both. He’s only making enough to cover childcare.
He’s depressed, in a terrific rut, and well…*** drive slump of the ages. Oh, and he’s gained over 100lbs since we met. he blames me for that (i gained and lost 70lbs with each of the two kids, and weigh approx 200lbs less than he does currently) He brings nothing to the table, physically, emotionally, financially, sexually.
Cause I do that for myself, too.
Am I spoiled daddy’s girl for being frustrated and bored with him?
Am I asking too much for a person who WANTS and TRIES to be a equal partner to me? atleast in some aspect?
I don’t think so.
And no, should I divorce him (it’s looking that way) I won’t be seeking half of everything. He keeps his car he had before we met, I keep mine (both cars are 8yrs old) and hopefully i’ll get SOME childsupport from him so I can pay for daycare without being totally strapped for cash. But I can make it either way, with or without his money.
I don’t think i’ve ever changed my mind on him and my wants/needs. he was at those levels when I met him, and he regressed or stood still, while I’ve grown as a person/wife/mother/worker. It shouldn’t be demanding to expect the same in your partner.
I can see how one might resent a stay-at-home mother/houswife for being bored and divorcing or whatever…but I’m in the opposite situation. I feel like I’m the husband, and HE is the “wife” and i’ve just become overwhelmed, under serviced, and bored with him mentally.
If you can’t step your game up to your partner’s level, then it’s time to move on to a new partner, methinks.
I am a stay at home mother, I also worked full time as a paralegal prior to staying home. Although it is apparent to anyone reading the article and most of the comments that there is a lot of bitterness and just plain idiocy demonstrated here I won’t go on and on about it.
Prior to becoming a SAHM, I was actually the breadwinner of our family (my husband is a teacher) but it was my husband who wanted me to stay at home once I had our 3rd child. Let me tell you dealing with anal attorneys and catty fellow employees is cake compared to dealing w/ 2 & 3 year olds. At my “real” job I was appreciated, valued, and, yes, highly paid. I did work a lot of overtime but usually no more than 50-55 hours a week. Do I watch TV- yes, I watch about 30 minutes of TV about 2 or 3 times a week. Do I go to the park often- yes- after spending about 20-40 minutes fighting to get the kids ready and out the door, then it’s fun for about 30-40 minutes, followed with about 20 minutes of whining, running after kids or yelling. I’m not going to get into dealing w/ all the nastiness of kids because that’s actually the easy part of it all.
Additionally, as for money- I am in charge of the budgeting- I have never been a shopaholic but now I am even more miserly – I save my husband $ not spend it. Yes, I am sure some SAHM have it easy- maybe if you have a lot of $ and only 1 or 2 kids it would be easy to live a “life of leisure”. But a lot of us are hard working and actually feel guilty because we aren’t bringing in capital even if staying at home is what our husbands want. Lastly, I do have my husband eat an occasional fish stick, in fact he is making us a lame dinner of sandwiches right now- however, I have made breakfast, lunch, dinner for the past 3 weeks straight and this week alone I also made him homemade granola for breakfast, cookies, cofee cake & dessert and I make sure his (our) laundry is always done. Is the house clean – no I have 3 kids.
Sorry there is no perfect woman. However, my advice to you is this, right before I met my husband I said to myself, I can offer a man this, this and that and you know what I better get that in return. If you want to be happy then do the same. But stop generalizing and viewing women as the enemy because you’ll never find happiness.
Separating from my wife of nearly twenty years was hard in every way but I just couldn’t put up with her sh*t any more. The first day she was gone I came home to an empty house which felt very sad, despite the fact that I knew, rationally, that I was better off without her.
But the next day when I woke up it felt like Xmas morning! I’m not kidding — no tension, no worry about what was coming down, just a feeling of anticipation, and — dare I say it — happiness.
And since she’s been gone I’ve had a great time. I no longer lose my temper with everyone, I have plenty of ***, and I can play the stereo, sleep in, do whatever the **** I please.
It’s cost me a bundle — a bit more than half my assets plus ongoing support payments — but at least I get some benefit from the money I earn now; when I was married I got absolutely nothing but stress and grief.
From here on out, until the grass no longer grows and the rivers do not run, I will isolate my disgusting maleness from all that is female to the greatest extent possible.Maybe that will assist in assuaging the anger held by so many of the female gender.
What a well-written essay!!!! Bravo!!!
Let the accolades swarm and multiply.
As one who considers himself to be at least a partial Alpha Male, allow little old me to toss in a caveat that ONLY applies to me.
Over the decades I have not attained some of the goals mentioned in the essay. One of the reasons for this has been the strong desire from an early age to avoid others who want control over me.
Bosses, politicians, bureaucrats, so many entities that want to control me, including females.
Living as a “social animal” it is impossible to avoid all control by others but it can be minimized.
However, sacrifices must be made.
Thus, no female companionship within a marriage scenario. Oh, sure, tried the live together routine when younger but gave up on that over 20 years ago and have huddled within the shanty alone since then. Alone but quite happy.
Did not follow the proverbial money trail since existing within the corporate structure held no appeal and, at times, the mere thought of being a corporate droid led to repulsive dread of “being a team player” within the constructs of BIG business.
What I write of applies only to me, my psyche, my persona. Assuredly there are Alpha Males who fit right into “the scheme of things.”
But, to be what I am, outside the norm, free-thinking and happier than average from my viewpoint, some sacrifices had to be made.
As compared with friendly castration?
Those , hmm, well,… “ladies” (ahem!) are pretty sick in the head. Preying mantis, black widow , rattlesnake, scorpion: make you choice of insect to describe them. Whatever word fits them best, they only inspire the deepest repulsion. Fifty years ago, they would have all been put in an asylum for the insane, but now they run free. What a shame. Perhaps because they have multiplied into hundreds of millions. Those wymyn are defective, seriously.
I have a hunch Lilith is an overweight teenage virgin. I was shocked by how ****** and disgusting her email was. I don’t know how you read these things on a daily basis.
I like how the last email justifies any wrong women by saying men deserve it. It’s funny how she first says how you should “stop moaning” but then goes on to prove why you should never stop! Women like her exist and men need to know that. It’s interesting the use of shame tactics.
Nice thoughts. but things have gone too far. We are “over the edge” now and there’s no backpedalling: our society is in free fall.
The only solution I can see is to let things go to their logical end. And when the dust settles and this madness is over because hatred ran out of fuel, maybe we can pick up the scarce remains of civilization and try to rebuild a new one.
In the meantime, try to enjoy life as much as you can and don’t worry about the future: the future is no longer ours to control. Que sera sera.
I think that the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965, the immigration reform act of the Great Society that ended preferences for Northern European immigrants, would have never passed if the 19th Amendment was not ratified. As LBJ or JFK would have never been elected president, America would have stayed a white-black country with stable demographics (i.e., close to 90% White). If only White men could vote, the majority of them would not have voted for their own demographic displacement.
That was really disgusting. I always say to all my mates, women don’t like men, period. They see us as bad human beings that should be vanished of the earth. They marry to have children, not because they like us.
I really believe that feminazism already won the war.
There is nothing in any of these emails that is anything new. I am betting this is so for the balance of them that you have received. What an utter black hole of original thought:
Men have messed up the world.
Men are being paid back.
Men are only good for one or two things.
Men are inferior.
All the same **** that would land a man in prison on charges of hate speech should we ever say it aloud.
And yet, somehow these marginal human beings think that all of this rhetoric will work. Amazing.
The bottom line is that even a slave has a soul, and whether it’s pure or bathed in the black blood of the innocent, the slave will be true to his soul. They do not count upon outside agencies to fight for them. They know that nobody is coming. The only defense they have is the truth, and the fact that they will fight to defend their souls.
We men of the Western world know the same exists for us. Hence, we realize that we are slaves. But, we also realize that our freedom is in our hands, and will be gained the same way any slave is freed:
Sacrifice, Courage, Defiance, and open rejection of the status quo. The fight will not be easy, nor will there be change possible in our lifetimes.
We fight you, just the same.
Enjoy the view from your ivory tower. Lord it over us defective genetic mutations. Keep laughing, ladies. You have your over-blown egos and the arm of (in)justice on your side.
Time is ours.
Sounds like sour grapes to me, as the marriage strike really starts to bite and increasing numbers of men simply refuse to play the game any more I think you can expect a lot more of this.
To my way of thinking being a man means living your life the way that you want to, so any time that some one levels one of these accusations against you just smile, nod and say “yeah and i’m still going to/not going to do it” (delete as applicable whatever it may be) once you have resolved to not let a woman have power over you – she doesn’t.
that is way too excessive suit settlement, it’s more than double the original cost of the wedding flowers.
My question is: Why the HELL did he marry?
I can’t believe that men nowadays still insists in this journey of hell and despair.
Well, in fact i know why:
1- She refuses to give ***
2- She offers quality *** so you end up tied by her ******
3- She threats to leave you
4- She starts complaining a lot
5- She starts to look at other men, or give hints that there’s other men around
6- You cant live without her, because you are too weak, so you give up to her wishes
Just love the catch phrase ‘you can’t always Glatt what you want.’
Poor little Elena. Typically a suit like this would only reward cost (of flowers) and attorneys’ fees. There would be no punitive damages. Get a life Elena. Move along and have a nice life…..if you can.
Good luck David.
I guess this is where the world is heading, but I’m not sure it’s all that absolute.
I spent many years debating women on websites on these same topics. I came away literally shocked (and I don’t shock easily) by the sheer dishonesty and scumbag behavior of women. All of them. Never once found one who would actually fess up to the problems.
I’ve tried talking to women friends, sisters, and even mom (not the wife, of course, because that would land me in divorce court) In EVERY SINGLE CASE there was absolute, unwavering refusal to EVEN CONSIDER ONE BIT OF IT.
I know a woman with 4 grown sons. Two of her sons got ****** by their wives in divorce court, leading to terrible results for the grandchildren. This woman had seen her sons and grandkids get ****** badly by her daughter-in-laws. Yet when I asked her the simplest question “Hey, don’t you see that there is a dark problem with feminism, and it’s hurting innocents?” she absolutely and angrily refused to listen to me.
My conclusion…women will never fix this problem without being faced by utter ruin. Never. They will deny it right up until the end, right up until they are faced with total social collapse, and even then they will refuse to face their issues. Women are physically and genetically incapable of facing these issues honestly.
Guys, don’t look for any relief soon. Just avoid marriage at all costs, go start a software company or climb mountains. Be a generation of single men, refusing to deal with the generation of selfish women. That is the only sane response. Will it cause social chaos? Yup. But that’s not your problem.
My 2 cents…
I agree with an earlier posting that the law of the land (federal law) should require not only a pre-nup before marriage, but also that the pre-nup must identify and disclose all assets and debts that each party is bringing into the marriage including income streams from trusts, etc. that exist before the marriage.
These income streams that are in place before the marriage occurs do not become community property, even if they are received after the marriage occurs. If a person commits fraud by not disclosing, then the offended party receives 100% (not 50%) of all assets acquired after the marriage (normally community property) in the case of divorce. These agreements must be iron-clad meaning a judge is powerless to nullify, but can only adjudicate under the terms of the agreement.
This will help both women and men and will greatly reduce the activities occuring in divorce courts today.
Watch out for a divorce after buying a new home. It seems that after an “upgrade” to a larger more expensive home, men are at their most vulnerable.
Editor’s Note: Mangina Alert! Readers Beware!
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Man, you guys are all kinds of bitter! Thanks, it’s hilarious!
Wow. Who lit the fuse on her tampon?
One of you really ought to buy your favorite chick (Thats ME in case you needed a reminder) the testicle necklace.
But only if they have it in silver. Gold is just tacky.
See. I will be that girl.
There have been military strikes that span continents that will have less planning than my wedding.
Im not arguing that. But if the guy really is a slap happy ****, no good can come from that relationship. Just like no good can come from a deceitful ***** using something like this to get even.
Sick. Just, sick.
Women like that deserve to be taken out back and shot.
Wow.
Just. Wow.
That wow is not pointed at the men, by the way.
Was this really the way it looked? It looks like a bomb went off in there! There’s literally nowhere to walk and the kitchen is nonfunctional as is. I can understand a place being moderately or even substantially cluttered (”lived in” is the polite phrase) as long as it isn’t impairing the lives and health of the occupants. But messes like this are clearly interfering with critical facilities (you can’t get to the sink, for example) takes a long time to accumulate, are very expensive in lost utility and excessive materials, and must have actively interfered with the ability to just exist in the home.
Some people may be time-limited or distracted and eventually feel too overwhelmed to clean it up (they don’t know where to start–as amazing as that sounds), but if she was refusing to clean up the home and refusing to help you then it came to a point where her behavior became a health threat to both of you. It indicates she didn’t care about the environment or it’s occupants, was actively abusing you, or had other distracting issues.
I see the picture and immediately have questions: What was she doing with her time? Why didn’t she care about this, or you, or herself? Why was she so irresponsible or abusive to you? Why was she so hostile to assistance (when most similarly placed people would beg for and greatly welcome help and relief)? But also you were an occupant in this environment. Was she preventing (distracting/fighting) you from cleaning things, or was your time occupied with tasks (a job) which prevented you from engaging in sufficient maintenance? Or was her personality, behavior, and personal environment so defective that living with her became a mental or physical health hazard?
I’m sorry your marriage ended. If your spouse was uncooperative, hostile/abusive to, or disregarding of your health and safety your divorce and expelling her from your life was naturally obligatory. I wish your life be serene, prosperous, healthy, happy, and long. (And I hope her life goes well too.)
I am married and hating it! I live with my wife and her son and her mother they both don’t work and I pay all the bills and clean the house. I am afraid to get a divorce, but life now is horrible. Please I need some advice!
I wonder how long this marriage will last? If she’s going to sue over something as trivial as a color schematic of flowers, (who ******* pays $30 grand for flowers anyways?), I don’t even wonder when a real problem hits her marriage.
I am questioning the intelligence of the groom. How can anyone be that p-whipped?
Actually, millions and millions men must buy the testicle necklace. That’s what i see everywhere. Women have their men by the ***** in almost every aspect of life that envolves man-woman.
Wow… How ridiculous! It’s women like this that make me ashamed to be one at times. If one must marry what ever happened to eloping?
I myself am firmly against plastic surgery. Surely appearance is not everything? But I’d like to point out that not all women do this, like the article suggests, as well as attempts to make one look more attractive are based on natural human instincts – the prettiest and strongest come out on top. But because humanity has evolved to include brains and personality into the chart, one should care less about beauty and strength, and more about love, personality, and knowledge.
High heels – why wear them? I hate them, they make my feet heart, and they’re difficult to balance on. Useless.
Makeup – again, pointless. Who cares? Animals had to be tested for – you to have it – think, you could be helping thousands of dying lives by NOT wearing make-up. Cover-up, maybe, if you are suffering from acne that’s incredibly dramatic, but the best treatment for acne is not make-up but medicine, so still useless.
Hair – actually, some women do have naturally think, beautiful hair. My hair’s naturally think. It’s all naturally dirty mucky blond – but I’m not dying it anytime soon 9although women aren’t the ONLY ones dying their hair – that’s a unisex beautifying attempt).
Teeth – actually, whitening your teeth with white strips is a health benefit. Wearing grills or pearlies is faking it.
Boobs – I naturally have big boobs. And it’s a hassle – there’s this guy who kept on trying to touch them, and it’s an object of constant playful teasing from my friends which, while it might have been funny at first, is now rather annoying. Big boobs serve no purpose. BOOBS, on the other hand, supply milk for babies.
There. Semi-rant over.
I almost completely agree with ncr. Sometimes, love just doesn’t work. it’s not that she’s not happy, it’s that as time has gone by, she realized that he isn’t… there’s a certain quality every human looks for in love. sometimes it fades away, sometimes it remains. As I read through this entire article I noticed there is no mention of people like my mother, who has remained happily married to my father. In fact, my FATHER was the one who divorced a woman before he married my mother, and my mother never married anyone but him. They are both still in love after 34 years of marriage – not all women are out to steal your money. Actually, when I was younger and my mother was working along with my father, my mother earning not too much less than him, every time one of them bought something, I was to thank my father. Why? He only did it half the time. Every time something good happened to the family financially,. even if my mother achieved it, I was to thank my father or he’d be upset. Why? He was looking for a thank you that was not deserved.
I do not hate my father. I love him, and my mother. I just want to point out that it’s not always the woman’s fault, it’s not always the man’s fault, and not every couple divorces.
I left my wife because I lost myself as so many men do. And the biggest thing i’ve noticed from my married friends now after I split with my wife is that they’re as equally un-happy as I was. Everyone had something to complain about. Some complained in jest and some complained for real which made so glad I was out of the trap. And as so many single men have told me whom were married once earlier in their lives is “I learned that I don’t need someone to be happy, and to be happy with myself.” Now im not suggesting there is nothing to be gotten out of a relationship but I dont think being trapped in marriage is neccessary anymore. Especially when the concequences are so much to the man when they split.
I’d think with the legal troubles their son is about to have, this was an awesomely brilliant way to protect half their assets.
So guys with all this women bashing going on here, what is a woman supposed to do if she gives her hubby all the *** he wants from her and he still does not live up to his part of the bargain? He still does nothing to make her happy? Seems like a double standard with all you men out there.
This site is soooo stereotypical. What about the wife who gave 20 years and thought that their husband walked on water? I did instigate the divorce after finding the so-called “love-of-my-life” in bed with the another piece of garbage after 20 years of marriage. After he turned 45 he decided he had missed out on life and that I should sit in the wings and wait until he got it all out of his system. No thanks…..too many diseases to catch from his fun and a slap in the face to my self-esteem. I left with my clothes and the dogs. Am I the scum-of-the-earth? I am a professional and could make my own living, but needed my pride to remain intact. So, he got the house, the furniture and everything else. We aren’t all selfish demons. Some of us are victims too….don’t forget that.
I’ve been alone for 5 years now and will not go down the marriage path again. I think that everyone is capable of selfish behavior and I don’t care to be in the wake of such selfishness.
It all goes back to the old saying, “Do unto others that you would have them do unto you.” Treat everyone you come in contact with respect and kindness. And if you can make someones day along the way, without expecting anything in return, you will become a hero in their eyes. People take notice of sincere acts of caring and kindness. Eventually, you will meet the person who will truly love you for the wonderful person that you are and they will want to fulfill all of your wants, needs and desires. However, we all go through a few rotten apples before we find that perfect match. Don’t hate All women just because of one woman who may have hurt you in the past. Just don’t have anything to do with that particular person anymore, and give the rest a fighting chance. Not everyone is out to get you. Except maybe the ones whom you have gone out of your way to hurt. And you guys are just way too obsessed with having ***. There is more to life than just your ability to relieve yourself by using someone else’s body.
I think that guys like this have way to much time on their hands to sit and say all this **** about women. Not all women are like what he describes. Just like, not all men are bad. However, guys like this (and the majority on this website) are acting like spoiled brats not getting their way. They need to grow up and start acting like mature adults instead of acting like whinny babies.
My oh my, what treasures your website is full of! If it weren’t for this website, I’d never have learned so many idiotic generalizations about women.
Maybe things are different in the city. I’m from the country, and relations between men and women are quite a bit different than what y’all describe.
Where I’m from (Missouri), most bachelors want a wife. Why? Well, who else is going to skin the deer you shoot during rifle season, cut it into reasonably sized hunks, and feed the family for the entire winter off measly Bambi? Who else gives hay to the cows in -10 degree weather while you’re off at your “oh so stressful” office job, sitting on your butt in a nicely heated building? My stay-at-home mother sure didn’t spend her days playing with the baby, and she still managed to have dinner on the table at 5:30 when Dad walked through the door.
It’s not about how intelligent, how attractive, how whatever you are. It’s about maturity and handling what life throws out you. Out in the country, we’re still raised right-by our mamas.
I think these broads summed up how they truly think, even though they claimed it was something else. They use men to fulfill there needs, end of story. If they happen to need money, they go searching for a rich guy.
Notice how there insult is ‘useless’, if they can’t use us for something our lives have no value.
‘Don’t judge a women on how she treats people she needs, but on how she treats people she doesn’t need’. It’s totally true, most women treat people who cannot serve her like ****, which is how she will treat you once her needs change.
While I’m not bitter or angry at women, I do enjoy the philosophy of questioning the status quo, in that why exactly am I going to marry women? I don’t see men here bashing women, I see them questioning why would we want to get or stay married.
Most people get married because it is the norm. **** the norm, that’s how sheep think. Women know marriage is a sweet scam, and we are the auditors figuring out we are getting screwed, most of the time. Notice how nasty people get when you figure out there scamming, and start asking questions? This is what we just witnessed.
I prefer to give memories, like a cruise or vacation, **** giving gold and silver. Gold and silver is like handing over a sack of money she will cash in when you break up, laughing all the way to the bank.Memories are the best gift. They are fun as hell at the time, gives her something to brag about to her friends, and becomes a painful reminder of how awesome you were, after she cheats on you and the relationship ends.
Memories, the greatest gift!
I ran across this website while doing some research on a book (”men who won’t commit”) and i think you are doing a great disservice here by trying to give a voice to and encourage all the negative stereotypes that some men and women have about one another, as well as marriage and relationships in general. all of you sound either bitter or downright mean – and who wants to be with someone like that? maybe when you selected that wife you can’t stand anymore, you chose her for less than amicable reasons yourself? there are many good women out there who couldn’t care less about how much income a man “provides” (and here is a wakeup call: most of us divorced moms make our way through life and don’t have some man’s income to “fall back on”- but of course you bitterlings wouldn’t know about that!)- we just want a good, faithful, smart, kind and **** man who is crazy about us! a lot of you men have no clue and you are missing out on the best things in life – and love is certainly one of the best!
Regarding the update on the Hogan divorce, there seems to be a much more obvious explanation. If Linda was looking to cash out of the marriage with the largest expected payout, now is the best time. A lawsuit might take a big chunk out of “her” half.
Talk about lousy timing for the Hulk. After he loses half his assets, he’s going to get stuck paying alimony, legal costs for his son’s criminal case, legal costs for divorce, and legal costs for a civil suit. The real kicker is that if his son doesn’t hit 18 before this stuff works it’s way through the courts, he’ll be paying for the mistakes made by a son he won’t have custody over, and probably paying child support on top of it.
Not all women are bad. Admitting that is the first step.
Not all women are crazy feminists, but most normal people agree that women and men should be equal.
And most important, not all women are like the ones you had bad experiences with.
Women are just people. There’s no hive mind, no secret plot to own every pair of testicles. Remember that men can be controlling, manipulative, and cruel just as easily as any woman, and that some of them are.
I know I’m not changing any minds, but this has been bugging me for a while and I need closure.
To Justin: Just get the divorce. I assure you life won’t be more miserable than being married. Even if you still have to pay the bills, you wont have to deal with the everyday hell that is marriage. Experience talking here, I’m finally divorced and my son and I live much happier now (although he lives with her mother, we’ve become really close lately and I’m thinking of going for the custody)
Joel
Like the girl in the American Express Commercial
Yes, Yes, and Yes!
You speak the truth.
And guys, it’s true…women only want what is fair…and what they have earned..you know their half.
And as much of your half as they can get…for a minimum of 18 years.
The fair part ? The jury’s still out on that one…
I speak from experience.
Saddened Heart
So, we are to assume that you are getting nothing out of this relationship?
Tell me guys…any of you ever heard this one?
Mi Mi Mi…going into shrill screaming female voice:
MY GAWD HOW YOU HAVE CHANGED!!
Changed? Me? Probably…but, ya know it takes women like that to make men like me. I wasn’t born like this… you molded me into the man you see here today.
Happy now? I’ve become everything you said you never wanted…and I had all the help in the world.
And, remember boys…this is my personal fave, “Do the right thing, set me free .
I wonder how these people fail to see it. We are living in the last days of Rome. Our society, Western civilization, is crumbling as its foundation upon which all our material comforts were built- the patriarchal, monogamous family unit – is torn apart.
The only thing that would fix it would be a society wide return to Victorian values and modesty. Bring back that concept of honor – chastity for women and bravery for men. Yes, that means some (many) people would fall into the dishonorable category but otherwise we will continue to hold bad behavior up as the model. The double standard there existed because the natural differences inherent in men and women. It is not insulting for example to call a man a sl-t or a woman a coward. Dividing women into the chaste and the dishonorable (and men into courageous vs dishonorable) in a public manner where society held people accountable for their actions and treated them in accordance with how they behaved helped stabilize public life. Hedonism is generally not fulfilling in the long run.
I realize there is about zero possibility of this happening so the spiral continues to wind downward. Best of luck.
Hee hee, ho boy DO I RELATE TO THAT LOT ABOVE! I have been put through it on every level except the Greenie Hypocrite. Those I have not had the dubious pleasure of observing at close range (though Kari Byron on Mythbusters is certainly living up to my distant observations that chicks who are Greenies are usually very boastful about how sadistic and cruel they are) , but I can work out what to buy for them: A NICE JUICY STEAK!
Cooked medium RARE…my favourite.
Well Sharon, I would agree with you except that your premise is based upon a strawman arguement as to how men think and believe. You say that we should get over our hurts and ********-overs and give others a chance because, as you imply, “Not all women are like that”. I would say that not all people are like that. There are lots of despicable women out there, and a lot of despicable men. It’s just a fact of life. We men can live with that, and often do regardless of the gender of those that visit outrageous behavior upon us. After all, who wants to go through life feeling hurt and betrayed?
The main fallacy is that you attribute our attitudes to our being directly hurt by women, and nothing more. While all of us probably have had this misfortune, our attitudes are based also on our observance of the world around us. What happens to our brothers, fathers, collegues and friends also colors our world-view. So too does a keen observance of how the institutions of law, marriage, and relationships are envisioned and deployed amongst society. Most marriages are dissolved at the behest of women who feel justified through their sense of entitlement to personal satisfaction. Laws are enacted and enforced on a daily basis that automatically criminialize or at least marginalize men. Relationships…well, it wasn’t a man that derived the standard of the-personal-is-the-political.
Contrary to what you may believe, we men can and do make our personal assessments based upon experience, observation, and provable knowledge. It isn’t all about our feelings being hurt. It is all a matter of survival. We men may be taking a dim view of what life serves up in intimate involvement, but then again we will survive more or less intact as a result. You can’t lose if you don’t play a rigged game, and you can win by playing a game of one’s own choosing.
As far as *** being a release valve, it is often true that this is a perceived effect, and that goes for women as well as men. But, if it were strictly that and nothing more, we could just as easily rub one out on our own, or bring in a hired gun to take care of it for us, and be perfectly content with this. That is to say, there would be no need for the anger and resentment that we feel. The sense of intimacy and love is highly prized amongst us poor troglodyte men despite what you may believe our motivations to be. When that is rendered down into a tool to manipulate us into doing something that you want, or reduced to the proportions of it being one more unpleasant duty to perform, it isn’t us men who are devaluing intimacy, it’s women; specifically, it’s wives.
We don’t turn our backs on women as a whole. We look to other places where women have no interest in competing with us on personal terrain. We seek women who will respond favorably to those acts of kindness genuinely offered without thinking it a sign of dishonesty or wimpishness. Alternatively, we live our own lives according to our needs first, and others’ second without the diminishing return that is marriage and relationship. Once again, we will keep ourselves alive and intact whichever way we choose to go.
Perhaps it’s the plain fact that we men actually do have choices that bothers you more than our so-called negativity?
Loved the gifts suited for all types can’t wait to order from the Christmas catalogue.
I don’t really have any criticisms about the article. If studies have shown it’s the case women choose different men when they’re on or off birth control, so be it.
In response to an earlier comment, yes, birth control increases the risk of breast cancer (esp. for the older gals who smoke). I, along with many other women, wish this wasn’t the case. To be honest, birth control hasn’t been liberating at all, not for me anyway. I’ll save you the personal details, but birth control does more than alter our selection of men and keep us from becoming preggers. For instance, birth control causes nausea, vomiting, weight gain (a huge issue for women and their men), vaginal dryness (another issue), depression (don’t get me started on that relationship killer), spotting of blood, and *DRUM ROLL* an over decrease in *** drive. That’s just to name a few, however. What about those of us, like me, who need to be on birth control for reasons beyond mere contraception? Well, we’re **** up a creek and bound to be single because our depressed, overweight asses don’t want to have ***. Interesting that a little pill that was supposed to liberate women sexually has cause so many *** related issues.
I’m only 21, and I’ve been on birth control for 7 years because of personal problems. However, I’ve stopped taking them to save my relationship. Granted, things are going to suck for me, but at least my boyfriend will get more action. More action = happier boyfriend. He’ll just have to be okay with wearing *******.
One last comment — Rich, we can all be replaced.
Prooves that there are no legal rights for a man in marriage, so why have it at all? Oh that’s right, marriage is an institution, like for the insane.
Good comment Andy. The more men realize they have no legal recourse in marriage, the less of them that will get married, and the less that the corrupt courts and child support services agency will have as “alleged” lying sack of garbage clients to help them.
Ah…women and “security” go hand in hand, and they still demand it regardless of feminism, and are willing outright to give up everything for it.
I think we’re missing the underlying issue here. Did anyone ever stop to think that people are getting married without truly being “in love”? First of all, if you’re unhappy in a relationship, you don’t really love the person. If you can’t find happiness on your own, you don’t love yourself… you’re living in despair (hell on Earth). Self-love is the foundation of every kind of love there is. So, it seems many of the issues are a product of self-hate, which women are so obviously and annoyingly guilty of.
Secondly, habit is a problem that ruins relationships. Do the same damn thing over and over again, you’ll get bored. Worst of all, you’ll start taking the person/people you love for granted. What’s more, the kind of “love” we swear to have for each other forever, isn’t the kind of love you want to swear by at all. Erotic (spontaneous) love fades because we “love” the person based on qualities that aren’t lasting. Try loving the person based on their soul (if people even believe there are such things anymore).
Thirdly, I will begrudgingly (only because I’m a woman and I have an obvious bias) admit that women don’t seem to hold loyalty and faithfulness as dear to their hearts as men, which is incredibly ironic. Ironic because as women, we expect our significant others to be faithful through and through. So much as ogle another woman and the accusations start flying… we’re so damn embarrassingly jealous it makes me sick. As soon as our love lives are consumed with habit or as soon as we being to see “he isn’t the man we fell in love with,” we’re gone. Where’s the loyalty, ladies? Women who commit this act of disloyalty are unethical… if you define being ethical as being virtuous, that is. Being a faithful person, being a loyal person makes you virtuous. Seriously, if you think what I’m about to say is stupid for any reason, there’s something wrong with you — Being faithful is important. DON’T just get up and leave the people in your life behind just because you FEEL a different way. It’s completely selfish if you think that’s an okay thing to do. As was said before, you are responsible for your own happiness
Nobody ever remains the exact same person they were before the marriage after the wedding takes place. As far as really knowing someone before you marry them, what if the intent was to deceive all along? There are lots of people out there who enter into marriage and relationships with sublimated ulterior motives. Most ugliness doesn’t come out until it’s too late, or the ugliness doesn’t start until the marriage takes the least little undelightful turn, which is the way of all life.
And, how much time should anyone allot to “getting to know someone” before the marriage? Two years? Three? Twenty-Five? It doesn’t matter. A person can be wholesome and good and kind when the couple start off with very little, but turn into crazed harpies once the assets start piling up.
The only trust anyone should “grant” anyone else in a marriage is the trust that they will live up to the oaths of Love, Honor, and Cherish. Any other issues of trust are off the table, and are earned, not granted. Hence, the pre-nup.
I was married for 24 years. My wife had affairs, and flaunted them,drunk all of the time, would not work. When I finally filed for divorce, the best deal I could get was: keep half of my assets, and now have to pay her a large marital punishment tax for 10 years. Now she can have her boyfriends, not work full time, and party all she wants…and I have to pay for it all. Something is wrong with this country. I do not EVER want to marry again. In my case, one is the happiest number.
Great advice. Wish I had read this before my divorce. I was taken to the cleaners. Women can be VERY evil. During my divorce, our kids did not matter to her one bit. All she wanted was the house, retirement, alimony, MONEY, money, and more money. She did not care how she got it, who she hurt in the process, even our kids. Selfishness and narcissism ruled her life. I was married to a monster for 24 years and didn’t even know it. What a wake up call.
Hmmmm…. very interesting indeed.
Feminism, in its infancy and by its very definition, is not supposed to make females better than males. It is supposed to offer “Equal protection of rights under Law”.
However, in the last two decades, feminism has become exactly the opposite of such ideals and has instead turned to make boys into girls – because aggressive behavior is not seemed to be “good for society”.
It is a bunch of hogwash.
I am a single mother of two children and trust me when I tell you I did not plan for it to be that way. The fault did lay with me – but not because of nagging or assuming everything should be about me. It was quite the opposite, everything was about him. I stayed with him through four affairs. I had never cheated on him once. I stayed with him after he single handedly put us into 70,000 dollars in debt (of course all in my name). I stayed and I stayed, until one day I looked at my beautiful daughters and thought to myself, “I do not want them to think that this is the way that they are supposed to be treated. I do not want them growing up thinking that women should just be something that cooks and cleans and occassionally gives it up.”
I have been single for 6 years now.
I do not believe that I am better than a man or that my feelings outweigh any opinion that they may have. But I do know what I will and will not tolerate in a partner. Show one of those behaviors and most likely you will not be welcomed back into my life.
Does this make me “princess-y”? I do not think so. I know there are great guys out there who have respect for me as a woman and would not resort to the vile acts that I have already allowed myself to go through. However, I also know that I am not ready to allow myself to let one of these guys into my life, so it is best to just NOT begin a committed relationship which only ends in MY acting like a crazy woman.
For the record, when someone is communicating with you, you are supposed to put yourself in their shoes and attempt to understand their feelings and needs. But when you communicate back to them, they are supposed to do the same for you. It is a two way street and anyone, male or female, who does not do this is a waste of time.
All right. I see your point.
But putting the blame on entire gender? No. No. You say that wars happened after women got their rights?
Well, excuse me, but wars happened BEFORE women got their rights, as well. Civil War? Revolutionary War? What happened to those, are they non-existent? Later wars happened NOT because of women getting rights, but because of increases in technology, laws that no one liked being passed, and other countries’ personal issues. Don’t go putting all the blame on one ***. I’ve known good and bad people, on both sexes. My father is a wonderful man, my mother is a wonderful woman. Life without feminism? Think ‘pre-civil war’ with technology. Not so great, and morally wrong. It’ll be slavery all over again.
No, but more than 50% do divorce.
Of those, it’s the wife who files 2/3 of the time.
Of those, it’s under the aegis of No Fault”. That is to say: “He doesn’t thrill and delight me like the trained seal he is. I’m bored Wah Wah Wah…”
They don’t start off hating the husband, but with some cajolling from her lawyer, she will work up a good mad at him, and then parlay that into unspeakable horrors and degradations perpetrated at his hands.
Since it is more and more legal and acceptable for a wife to murder her husband outright, maybe she can just cut out the middle-man and instead of buying a lawyer, she can just purchase ammo and a weapon.
Women have an invisible allegiance to their sisterhood that guys don’t have. Which I say if we did have, it would help.
Everything I’ve seen here completely confirms what I have always seen, noticed, and felt: Marriage is really overrated. Sure, there is nothing wrong with it, per se, but it should not be considered a one way ticket to happiness.
I’m single, and LOVING IT! I have *** when I want to (most of the time at least), and I don’t need to put a ring on anybody’s finger to get it. Everyone I know that is married is not exactly happy… in fact, I’m sleeping with a married woman right now. All I really want to say is that if you can get companionship, ***, and genuine good times with somebody (or several people), don’t rush into living with someone. You are really missing out on all the fine women out there who might be even better than what you are working with. Of course, if you truly find that “one”, than by all means marry her. But don’t let society tell you that you should get married as soon as possible. Enjoy life to the fullest, and when you have TRULY worn out your ******/playa needs, then get that wife.
Until then, I will enjoy my freedom and fornicate without commitment.
Is it any wonder that all of the most revered teachers and spiritual guides of the ancient world (i.e. Jesus Christ, Aristotle, etc) were such staunch advocates for a patriarchal societal structure? It seems that women (womyn?) lack the cognitive capabilities necessary for an objective viewpoint. Hell, I personally believe that it’s only because of the male capability to see things objectively in the first place that feminism has been as successful as it has. I also believe, however, that the repulsive gynocracy of the current age will be short lived.
In no way do our differences make one *** superior to the other — only different. Fortunately, God also made us intelligent enough to figure out and understand our environment, which includes the opposite *** — IF we choose to. The capability is there. It’s the desire that seems to be lacking.
I’m the mother of two teenage boys and have been in a loveless marriage for 18 years. Sure, I could complain and trash my husband for the many long years of neglect, loneliness, disappointment and despair; I could let bitterness take hold, poison my life and tear my family apart. But, compassion and understanding are a much healthier choice for ALL concerned. IT ISN’T EASY, but it works, and we’re all better off for it. Again, it’s a CHOICE.
Life is rarely fair and usually doesn’t turn out like we hope. But, we only trash ourselves when we trash others. Instead of criticizing each other for our obvious and largely innate differences, why not take the higher ground and try to understand and accept each other — look for things to appreciate about each other instead of things to complain about. Much of our reality is simply a matter of perception. When you change what you look at, what you’re looking at changes. Try it. You might be surprised.
No, it won’t make things perfect. Nothing’s perfect. But, it will make it better — maybe MUCH better — or, as in my case, at least tolerable for now. When our kids are grown, my husband and I will part ways — but hopefully as friends. And, I hope that I will then be able to find a more suitable man one who is compassionate and understanding.
Graeme
I have to say that being married seemed all very nice at the start , but I have concluded that women seem to want to control your every movement , I’ll never do it again.
I was horrified to read this. I have known other women like this and I can not understand how nice guys stay with such women. Yet women who have a good heart and are decent seem to have either no luck at all or end up with total asses like one of my last bfs. He was controlling and verbally abussive. My friends were over-joyed once I dropped him.
In a truly fair world, the decent and good-natured men and women would end up together and the lying, cheating “sacks of skin” (males and females) would end up together and battle each other out.
I think that there should be prenups to protect both and only split things that they have both contributed to. I earn my own money and do not need anyone to take care of me. A marriage is supposed to be about 2 people who want to share a life together. Maybe I am looking at this in an idealistic manner, but I guess I still have hope even after several failed relationships. As my mother says, as long as there is life, there is hope.
A lot of guys have so much pent up negativity towards women, and i’m not sure exactly why? I think it boils down to each of these men having bad experiences with women at some point in their life, and never quite “getting over it.” So from there, all women are shunned as “unintelligent, manipulative wh*res.” When women have a bad experience with a man, yes, initially they may cry about it with their friends, but be sure that in the end, we are laughing about it………and then we simply move on.
It truly saddens me that so many people have this terrible attitude towards marriage, but I can’t say that i’m not one of those people. I am one of those people who is thinking more and more, as I get older ( i am 26), that maybe marriage isn’t such a good idea. Now that women like myself are more independent, we realize that we don’t have to follow the social norm of settling in with a guy who goes out and makes the money while we stay home with the kids and be a subservient housewife. That idea sort of repulses me actually.
Now don’t be mistaken… I am not man-bashing here, trust me. I thoroughly enjoy the company of males, especially ones that i’m not in a ****** relationship with. I have just as much fun joking with the guys than I do as talking gossip/nonsense with the girls.
Its just seems as though men and women are making their way independently these days….and the need for women to “rely” on men is diminishing. And i think that is ok.
Just be assured that not all women are after men’s money…there are still women out there that have a sense of pride in themselves and would never do that. Women like me are just hoping that we find that person who respects us and enjoys our company.
Ok, while Gee Gee’s lack of punctuation issues did make it difficult to read, a lot of what she said was very much true.
We DO marry men because we love them, I am about to marry one now who does not help me around the house at all and does whatever he wants most of the time…going out with friends ’til 2am, drinking, etc. This bothers me a great deal. We actually argued about it (the cleaning issue) the other day because I do 3 loads of laundry per week, clean, vacuum and dust the entire house, do the dishes 98% of the time etc…He takes out the trash when it is halfway up the wall, and that’s about it. He leaves things around for me to clean up after him, as though I am his maid. So, do I nag when I want him to do the dishes or the laundry ONCE IN A WHILE? YES. I have to. I ask nicely once or twice but it gets very annoying. If I did not “nag” it would not get done. Example–I asked him to do the dishes on a Saturday (mind you, it’s just putting them in the dishwasher), and they did not get done until Thursday. Same when I asked about the laundry. So in the meantime, I am washing my own dishes because there are no clean ones, how is this fair. Am I wrong to “nag”? Would I have to nag if he had just done them instead of staying up watching tv until 2am or messing around on the computer??
So Bradley, is he not helping because it “doesn’t fit into his schedule”? I’d say it is more out of laziness.
If any of you could tell me WHY this happens I would love to know. My best friend is married with a baby and one on the way and is having some serious problems with this right now. He doesn’t help her with the child OR the house, and this is not okay.
We don’t think it is “all about us”, but we do feel unappreciated and taken for granted when all we do is take care of you and we get nothing in return. No real affection to speak of, no help…Why do you feel you can do whatever you want and we have to be okay with it? Marriage/relationships are a commitment and you are a team. Women do need affection just as men need ***. Oh, and trust me, if you would just help us out and be a little nicer, there would be much more of the latter. We would be happier and more energized, we wouldn’t have to nag, and everyone would be happy. I’ve even brought this point up and I don’t think it resonated. Why not? What is bad about this idea?
And to CuriePoint with the engagement/wedding argument as a way to make it seem as though marriage is all about the woman…PLEASE. That wedding stuff is tradition. The ring thing sucks for you guys but that’s the way it is. Sorry. We have to have kids, which involves 9 months and whole lot of pain. I think you win that one. Most women do NOT buy “several-thousand dollar wedding gowns”…Davids Bridal is where most middle class women go, dresses there are like $600. I plan to pay for mine myself, we will share other wedding costs. Guest list? Whatever, it’s not like that anymore. The wedding day is mostly about the bride but that is tradition as well. These days though, things are changing and women are being more flexible. Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of Bridezillas out there that want want want and I think that is gross. $30,000 for a wedding is a waste.
All in all, I think most women are nice girls like me that just want to be with the person they love and work as a team, start a family and just be HAPPY. Why do you think we are all out to get your money??!? Really? A rotten few I guess have spoiled the whole bunch in your eyes. Don’t generalize like this please.
And to Henry…American women are the fattest in the world? AMERICANS (including men) are quite fat in general. You guys really think you are God’s gift don’t you? Men are fat too. Geez.
So…apparently dataguy thinks that no compromises should be made in marriage. This guy clearly has never been married and/or never should be married because that just cannot work. People are very different and compromises HAVE to be made. On BOTH sides. Especially if you want to make the marriage work and have a family. If you don’t want to compromise I find that selfish and you definitely should be single.
OK.
Married men are actually happier and healthier than married women. I read this in a book I used in a family studies class I took. I’ve been looking for a reference but I can’t find one right now. If you need it, I’ll try harder. Women care about their husbands and pressure them into the colonoscopy and all that good stuff, and just to go the doctor in general, as men seem to be weary of doctors for some reason. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Men just have shorter lifespans. This is a global thing. Even in countries where they have no running water and women are taking care of the kids, walking miles to get clean water, etc., they still live longer. We just do.
Curiepoint:
Wow. I am sad for you. Anyway. Info above can be directed at you as well. I have NEVER seen an ad about testicular cancer or prostate cancer framed in terms of how it will affect women. Medical research is focused on women? WHAT? What about all the frikin ED research and the penile enlargement stuff that is not very important in comparison to breast cancer, ovarian and cervical cancer…Not to mention lung, colon..all the cancers and other diseases that strike both sexes.
I will argue that if men are “dying in droves” of prostate or testicular cancer, and by droves I assume you are saying more than women die of cervical, breast or ovarian cancer…that it is because they do not go to the doctor often enough…many seem to have an aversion. However, as I pointed out, many married women encourage this, which is why married men are happier and healthier. It is NOT for lack of research.
Also, I’m sure you know that until recently, heart attacks and heart disease symptoms and treatment were based on a male model. They assumed women’s symptoms were the same as men’s. They are not, and many women died as a result. My grandmother didn’t know what was wrong with her because “classic” heart attack/disease symptoms were actually male symptoms. The medical field is trying to rectify this situation by including more women in research…but wow. All I can say is wow…
Curiepoint wrote: “Women are the enemy”
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?
What did a woman do to you? Did your mom beat you? How can you generalize women this way and dislike them so much? I do not dislike men at all…and they really treated women badly for most of history.
I just don’t understand. Whoever said “your mothers would be ashamed of you” is absolutely correct.
Murder is murder. I don’t care what *** you are.
I agree with lucky that equal rights=equal responsibility…
I don’t know that men do 10X the time for the same crime, I would need some facts or a reference to that effect, but men commit violent crimes much more than women do. That is a fact.
If you want to complain about the criminal justice system being sexist, think about the women that were being violently abused by their male partners and ended up killing them in true SELF DEFENSE (I’m not talking the “I shot him while he was sleeping” ****, but the “he was coming at me with a knife and I shot him”) and ended up in prison for life. Fair. No.
Men kill their children too. Sometimes they **** them as well. We are just shocked more when women do it and society tends to search for answers because women are supposed to be nurturing and protective of their children. Besides, they went through the trouble of carrying them in their womb, giving birth and raising them. There is (usually) a very strong bond as a result. We can’t seem to understand why they would do something like this. Men are more distant from the process and, as I said before, are violent more often than women. We (society) can make sense of this a little easier. That is why there is this perceived “double standard”. That’s all. Chill out.
You guys have had the upper hand in this country since day 1, so I can understand why you feel like you have to defend that upper hand since we have started to level the playing field. Calm down, we aren’t trying to take over. You know we will never be able to. You will always be at least slightly “superior”….so don’t lose sleep over it.
Wow that was long and I’m tired. Point you seem to be making is that giving women the vote was a big mistake and we are all liberals that want war and bigger government/more subsidies and programs. Right?
Wrong. Many do. The Hillary crowd is all about it. But male democrats are the same way…It’s a party issue not a gender issue.
So, I will use this chance to say that I am a woman, and I support RON PAUL, who will end the war, reduce taxes if not end the income tax, get rid of useless federal programs/entire departments, etc. I’m sure many of you will say he’s crazy but I don’t care. I want a smaller government and less taxes. Oh and I’m also in favor of legalizing drugs and ending the drug war, and I’m against abortion and gun control! Really!
To the whole “feminism made us fat” idea… I just have to laugh. What about feminism makes single guys eat fast food like twice a day because they are too lazy to cook real food? My boyfriend does it and I’m ready and willing to cook GOOD healthier food. You guys just like meaty burgers. Even married men eat fast food during lunch breaks and on the way to work…so it’s not just that women aren’t cooking dinner anymore. Open your eyeballs.
Men AND women are fat these days. Why are you not getting that?
Maybe we should all be vegetarian like me and we wouldn’t have such a huge problem with this ;o)
Firstly, I do commend you on your open, honest and brave stance in support of the many good, yet heavily battered, men that inhabit this planet.
I am a human male who works in the University of Guelph. As you may imagine the university is a prolific generator for mainstream hatred against all men also known as ‘Gender-Feminism’.
Here, a tune is played out that demonizes the human male as the cause of all that is dumb and wrong. The double-standardization, polarization and denigration of males vs. females is no longer even just insidious, it is actually now pop culture. Female students well out number male students here, as in most university institutions, yet the male students and tax payers pay for wimmyn’s resource centers, female physics graduate students are paid more than males, wimmyn student paper editors of the ‘Ontarion’ address men as “for those of you that aren’t wimmyn”. Wimmyn’s oppression and misery is apparently only caused by men, the evil of all life, especially white heterosexual males. Recently published in our Ontarion paper was “How to fist a ******”, obviously implying that a ***** is a **** organ and a wimmyn’s fist is the only approved methods of ****** intercourse. I’ll stop here because this all just gets very absurd and too nauseating for lunch hour.
Ironically, wimmyn have the nerve to cry out, “Where have all the good ones gone…?”.
Ladies, you castrated the very men that you cry for. Ladies, you lack logic and not mention compassion for half of the human race.
In light of the insane hatred directed to men and the innumerable male persecutions in divorce court and the general hatred driven against men everywhere I have had a vasectomy and choose my very few female friends oh so wisely. Using children as a source of income is not my function to deliver and my ***** and wallet stay with me.
Jim, force her to choose. The co-workers or you.If you bought a product that was defective then you would return it right? Well your relationship is defective and you need to fix it or toss it. I would never abide such shabby treatment. You deserve much better. I assure you that if you don’t stand up for yourself then she will happily wipe her muddy feet off on your face.
Justin, get it over with. Go for the divorce. I was physically and emotionally abused as a child by a sibling and it resulted in my becoming a doormat who sought everyone’s approval. It took years to recover. After I turned 30 I refused to put up with anymore of it. No one, I repeat, no one should tolerate abuse. Screw the kids and screw the world. If you’re being abused in your marriage get the hell out of it. The kids will be better off too. I’m beginning to ask some men on these blogs, “would you rather be miserable in a marriage or miserable outside of a marriage?” I’ll take misery outside of marriage. At least I have the option of discovering ways to make myself happy. But you’ll never be happy reporting to “the warden” every day.
Please stop the shaming language. It doesn’t work. The reason so many men are on these blogs is because they’ve gotten a bad deal from women. The problem is epidemic. Too many women want their cake and eat it too. They want rights without responsibility.
Now men have caught on and more and more of them refuse to put their heads into the matrimonial noose. If marriage was a commercial business it would go out of business. Wise shoppers spend their money and get a worthwhile product. Men spend their lives, freedom, sanity and money on marriage and get a kick in the teeth.
Women, you’d better wise up.
Amanda, you claim that “[men] really treated women badly for most of history.”
I am glad to see you are intelligent, seeing as you do not hold today’s men accountable for what men long dead have done. There are plenty of women who like to use the actions of men who don’t have anything to do with the discussion or the actions that lead to it as an argument in said discussion.
Despite that, you seemed to have missed a crucial lesson in history class. You must know that, during the 200,000 years humans exist, the female was the dominant ***. Women took care of the community’s young ones and gathered fruits and other foodstuffs. In the mean time, men hunted. Food gathering, however, was any community’s greatest source of food and not hunting (as is often believed). This put women in a dominant position, as they were not only the only *** able to bear children, but they also supplied most of the food consumed.
To put it gently, men were at women’s mercy. To make matters worse, the “dating” arena wasn’t a friendly place to be for men either: one rejection was enough for all other women in a community to reject the rejected man as well, meaning his sorry genes weren’t likely to get anywhere (*). To top it off, a man could never be sure a child was his (while women always were and still are). Who knows some caveman named Brutus had his way with his wife while he was out hunting?
It was only starting from about 8,000 B.C. that men became the dominant ***, when agriculture started to spread across the globe. This was a slow process, though, taking thousands of years to fully spread across the globe.
(*) This may well be the reason why some/many men are shy and passive when it comes to relating to women in a romantic/****** way: evolution has taught us that a lot depends upon that one romantical pursuit, so we treat it as if our lives depend upon it; that is no longer true, but it takes a while before evolution adapts a species’ behavior to new circumstances.
Ok, “men treated women badly for most of [American] history”. That’s what I was getting at. That was a very tiny little piece of my comment and not really a part of my argument, however.
I am totally amazed that someone would spend a years salary on flowers to begin with. If and when me and my man get married I might steal some flowers out of the neighbors yard. I’m sorry, but if you are getting married for decent reasons you don’t worry about all that ****. And sorry, he’s a total dumbass for marrying someone that superficial anyway. You guys wonder why you end up with ****** women who wont give it up? Because your pickers are broken. If a woman want’s to go ring shopping it’s because she is materialistic. Why don’t women allow a man to come to them with a ring he picked out, no matter the size, and realize it’s the symbolism behind it that makes it special, not the bragging rights to other ho’s? Be grateful you were proposed to! **** a wedding, if I want to spend the rest of my life with someone, that’s all I want to do, not make it into a “look-at-me-i’m-pretty-for-one-day-pagent”. (no wonder i went back hetero!)
Yes. I had large breasts at one time. Then I had two children and breast fed. Then my fat *** lost 70 or 80 lbs and I’m back in a B cup. Trust me, big boobs are a hassle and even often uncomfortable. Though they may be pretty and fun to play with, I’ll keep my B cups thank you. (not saying I wouldn’t play with some nice D cup store boughts to get my kicks though
I can’t wait for this marriage strike to become entrenched. Feminists are so smug. Letters like this prove that men are basically smarter and more compassionate than women. Today’s women hate men and couldn’t care less about their kids. Men were never so cruel and callous as your typical woman. What gets me is that when men ruled the world they were protective of women. But now that women are in charge they are basically vicious and irresponsible. There is no better argument for women to get back into the home than their present horrible behavior.
Great advice. Boy, sure wish I would have read earlier. Just went through the hanging. You should also add “do not own your own small business and go before the judge.” He literally put me out of business by ruling me to pay 26,000 in 90 days. I know it doesn’t sound like much but when you make on avg 5,600 a month it is a lot. Looks like i’m on my way to jail for a long time with no possible way to pay or even have the judge removed so I can get a fair hanging.
Is there any help out there?
Actually, in this day and age, if you marry a woman who makes more than you, prenups are not a good idea. Nothing will make the laws more fair and equitable than if a woman has to pay out like a man.
Aside from that, nothing will get rid of child support. A man will always have to pay this and keep the kids at the level of comfort that they were enjoying during the marriage (ie this is just ploy so even the man who has covered all the bases will still get screwed by the system, since the woman will enjoy most of the benefits of “child support”).
Isn’t it just like womyn that they have to comment on this stuff here and not leave us men alone to do our own thing. Who is love starved for attention? Sound like the women are.
I heard this is just a scam by them to protect their assets when they are sued for the son’s negligence. Don’t know if it’s true, but Hulk seems pretty shameless. He’s a “pro” wrestler after all.
Amanda: Wow. I am sad for you.
Save me your pity. I have no use for it.
Amanda: I have NEVER seen an ad about testicular cancer or prostate cancer framed in terms of how it will affect women.
I don’t know what media you subscribe to, but I’ve seen nothing else. How about the ad with the guy walking around with his wife on his back, literally? Or printed ads in Men’s Health Magazine that is comprised of a matrix of women’s pictures, each one captioned with “I have prostate cancer”?
Amanda: What about all the frikin ED research and the penile enlargement stuff
ED was never “researched”. The treatments for it fell out of a correlation between certain Blood Pressure medications and a side effect of spontaneous erection; the same meds that are given to women, BTW. Moreover, ED is indicative of a more serious medical condition, so while ED itself isn’t as important, the cause usually is. As to penile enlargement, you cannot be serious. All of those ads for penile enlargement are not the result of bona-fide medical research. It’s all snake oil and marketing. By the way…these ads are exclusively put forward in terms of “do it for her”.
Amanda: I assume you are saying more than women die of cervical, breast or ovarian cancer
Why assume that? Why do men have to die in greater numbers than women for it to be taken seriously? As it happens, the numbers of men who die of prostate or testicular cancer are slightly less than women; by slightly, we are talking about 50,000 less per year. Yet the amount of money spent on breast and ovarian cancer research gets pretty close to a billion dollars. For men: about one-eight that much.
Amanda: many married women encourage this
Sure…can’t pay the mortgage without the walking ATM…I mean…husband around.
Amanda: married men are happier and healthier
As stated by such scholarly journals as Cosmo and Woman’s Day magazines.
Amanda: heart attacks and heart disease symptoms and treatment were based on a male model.
Point made and understood.
Amanda: WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?
Lots of stuff. That’s life, and it’s lessons are not lost on a wise person.
Amanda: your mothers would be ashamed of you
I personally couldn’t care less about the opinion of someone who nagged and demanded a man into a much earlier grave. Not a kind word from her while he was alive, but not that he’s gone, he’s some kind of saint.
There is nothing wrong with the institution of marriage per se. If the government hadn’t stuck their nose into it I would recommend marriage. But women in America have been poisoned by feminism and a sense of entitlement so therefore marriage is a fool’s paradise for men. Marriage in America offers everything good for women and nothing for men. No wonder fewer and fewer men are willing to participate.
antiriad you are so right that marriage is the bedrock of civilization. Too many MRAs refuse to accept the fact that marriage is a relationship where the man loves his wife and kids and the wife submits to her husband. There is no other way or alternative dynamic of marriage.
obbop, allow me to explain how the end of marriage is the end of society. Great marriages create great people which leads to a great society. Ideally, marriage has benefits for all concerned: The husband is productive and is a good role model for his kids. The wife is a help and is also a good role model. The children learn justice, responsibility, sacrifice and so many other things.
But when you destroy marriage you destroy the nation and anarchy ensues. After almost 50 years of feminism husbands don’t know how to be husbands, wives don’t know how to be wives and children without discipline turn into criminals. You may not realize it but America is in grave danger of complete collapse because of the collapse of marriage which leads to the collapse of society.
The problem is, as I have stated in some of my other posts, an unnatural imbalance. Though, who’s to blame? No one can truly say. It’s been going on too long. I for one hate most of society, but can I change how it affects my children? Barely, but I can do my best. As far as these stereotypes of women, they are very true! And I am proud to say that the cure for my experience is to find a healthy balance. Unfortunately the feminist movement has made it impossible for me to be completely traditional due to inflation and such. (women came into the work force, able to spend more money and drove the cost of living way up) Now, due to high living expenses I have to be able to contribute. No longer can you have the typical bread-winner father and the stay at home mother. You can no longer sufficiently support a family on one income. So the mothers go to work. They try to take on the role of mother, wife and career woman. Now, this is not impossible to do, but if you don’t know how to balance it just a bit, you wind up with one crabby *** *****. A woman who doesn’t have the capability to love her miserable man because she just doesn’t have the energy. Thus warping the view of what love is for the children.
What I try to do is work, be a mom and a good girlfriend. I try to make sure that my sons see me show my man affection. (teach them women are supposed to love them, not just annoy them). I do the best I can with the house and such and my guy helps me. I don’t nag for it because that just doesn’t work. He knows that I will not take care of it all on my own because that is not fair weather or not I am a female. (you wouldn’t put up with it out of a roomate, now would you?) But, I do make a special effort at doing the “woman things” and taking care of him. A special effort to make his life easier so he feels loved and secure. Isn’t that what you are supposed to do for those you love? (he does it back too because if he didn’t I would be wasting my time and thus move on) I ask him to do the less gender specific, less complicated things just to help me along. And as far as being a mom…I try to teach my boys how to be balanced men. How to be tough yet sensitive. I tell them that if a guy hits them to pummel the **** out of them, that if a girl hits him once to let her slide the first time but after that she’s fair game as well. I teach them to pick up after themselves because there is no use in being a slob. I teach them to strive for knowledge and that being happy is the number one goal in life. Yes, I do encourage them in sports, in video games, in school, but most of all in their peer settings. How to deal with other people. It’s best we concentrate on how we all get along instead of how we all get ahead of each other. That’s up to the individual drive I think.
That ad you were talking about with the woman on the man’s back was exactly what I was thinking when I was saying that men seem to care less about their health than women.. .the wife was on his back because he wouldn’t do it, she wanted him to be healthy because she LOVED him. Thanks for helping me prove that point.
You assume that women only want their husbands around because they “have the money”. Men are NOT always the breadwinners, and for God’s sake, WOMEN DO LOVE THE MEN THEIR WITH. It is possible, I promise you. You need to step out and realize that most wives/girlfriends love their husbands/boyfriends. I love mine. And he’s a poor teacher…..::GASP::
BTW–I told you I got the info about married men being happier and healthier in a University class, NOT Cosmo, thanks. If you REALLY want a reference I can try to find it but that would be a pain… I don’t really feel that this is worth it, I have grad school work I need to get done.
People of both sexes have their faults. I just wish everyone would stop generalizing people. Try a libertarian viewpoint and see people as individuals – not members of groups.
This was the best advice i ever got.i made my daughter read it!!! I always new that men love ***.But now im going ot make sure I do too.yeaaaa.
Has any guy figured out how to hide cash before a divorce?
“and most of these “Smart Men” will end up old single lonely men”
Who says they won’t even if they do get married?
” Ok, “men treated women badly for most of [American] history”. That’s what I was getting at. That was a very tiny little piece of my comment and not really a part of my argument, however. “
– Amanda
Entirely true. Still, the myth that men did women wrong for most of history is so pervasive that it has to be corrected.
I am sick of hearing it used against men while:
1) what men long dead did is no fault of today’s men and while
2) it is not in the slightest true.
I agree with Felix above. It is simply far to easy for women to walk away with really nothing to lose, and lots to gain, if “chump” is the sole bread-winner.
There needs to be a change – make it harder to divorce – more to lose for the individual.
It’s curious, Amanda…but the ad you refer to makes absolutely no mention of the wife loving her husband; just that she’s a nag. As to the point about men not always being the bread-winners, on this I concur. But then again, whoever is the primary bread-winner in a marriage is really moot. The vast majority of divorces find the men penalized in favor of the ex-wife in the form of alimony, or in a more general term “Maintenance” regardless of the relative salaries of the people involved. And, with more than half of marriages ending in divorce, how many of them end up with the wife paying alimony to the husband because she make more than him? In the vast majority of these scenarios, she gets the house, both cars, and the kids. Whoever is better equipped to handle raising them based upon income potential is rarely considered.
Sure, it’s possible that women love the men they’re with. It’s also possible that an asteroid will strike the Earth and cause another mass extinction. After all, it happened once before in the Chixulub impact 65 million years ago, so it could happen again. It just doesn’t seem terribly probable. The bottom line is that people can proclaim love (indeed, proclaim anything) from now until the end of time, but words mean nothing. What counts are actions. I never believe what people say to a greater extent than what they do. My observations are admittedly skewed to one side, but they are my observations, and they are what direct my actions and beliefs.
No need to interrupt your graduate work for my benefit. Good luck on your thesis.
Dead-on with your observation about both genders having their faults. I have never denied this. But what happens when half of the population (individuals all I am sure), find themselves living a life whereby they have never had it so good in all of human history, and yet still decry their victimhood at the expense of the other half?
In a word, resentment.
In another, defiance.
Why get so worked up, Amanda? So what if I turn my back on women and consider them not worth the effort anymore? They can go along their merry ways, and I shall go mine, both of us unassailed from either side of the gender divide. Just as long as they stay away from my house, my land, and my life…everyone will be just fine. I’ve worked to damned hard to see even the slightest possibility of it vaporizing out of my hands and into a woman’s.
I’ve been divorced for a year now. I’m finding most women are pretty much the same with a slightly different tune. Most suffer from the grass is always greener syndrome or my fav, I can’t get my way I’m leaving syndrome. I’m lucky my wife took her stuff, I kept mine, no lawyers except the one that drew up the separation agreement. We still get along and even she has said “If I were you I wouldn’t marry again”. My new motto is, stop on by, do the deed, clean up if your feeling generous and good bye. I’m in my mid 30’s, making good money, lots of time off and couldn’t be happier. Scott Bao 46 and single pretty much says it all.
The fact is that men and women are quite different.
I wouldn’t take actors as icons of masculinity, and in particular actors playing cowboys. The 50s tough guy simply don’t work because the tough-guy image is cardboard – where’s the emotional depth, the three dimensional aspect of real men?
I’d rather take real men as role models, rather than actors.
Not to say that art can’t teach you anything about human nature – great art definitely can – but cowboy movies of the 50s are not the right place to look. I agree that men are negatively portrayed in the current mass media, however.
Expressions of emotion in men have always been celebrated – you only need look at fairy tales, ancient myths, and other stories. I think the idea that men should be cold and unemotional is recent and destructive.
The key problem is that people associate emotionality with femininity. I completely disagree with this. Men have great depth of emotion. IT is true that our ability to control these emotions, when required, has and should be celebrated. You can’t be an effective soldier or fireman if you are curled up on the floor crying. But likewise, a real man must allow these emotions to flow out when the time is right. How can these emotions be feminine – we are men!
I agree that public displays of weeping and hugging are nauseous, but you could argue that politicians would do anything for the right photo opportunity anyway. But, sharing emotions is a good thing in the right time and place. In Australia, much like how it sounds in the USA, we have the stereotype that men should ‘tough things out’ and are not given license to share their feelings with other men. Without question, this is one of the reasons why the male suicide rate in Oz is FOUR times the female rate (and more suicides are probably hidden in car accidents). For men aged 17-25 the suicide rate is 7 times the female rate, and it is particularly bad in rural areas. Men are dying rather than letting their emotions out, because it has been drilled into them that a real man doesn’t display emotions or weakness.
In saying that men are emotional, and should embrace this, this is not to say that the SNAG is the answer, either. The SNAG and the Mangina are effectively the same – a man who generally always sees women as right, as the victims, the wilting flowers who are crushed by men. He will typically always take the side of women and assume that they are more honest, ethical and principled than men. The Mangina is a sellout and typically is not able to emotionally connect and share with other men. He automatically views them as competition or as a threat rather than as a brother, and will often try this angle in order to ‘look better’ in front of women and get into their pants by attacking/shaming other men who are competition.
The old, John Wayne, idea of what a man is doesn’t work, and the feminist-imposed model is c r a p too. Collectively, we need to think, talk, and sort out a new model.
I would say that we do need models and heroes, and that you cannot simply let men develop on their own. If you don’t have role models and a positive idea of masculinity then young boys and teenagers have no guiding light. I disagree that ‘everybody’s different and just let them be how they are’. Sure, diversity is a great thing, but if you have no positives, then boys and teenagers are simply going to look for role models in other places – gang leaders, rock stars, etc. We should celebrate the great qualities of men and the great achievements of men, without necessarily demolishing men’s individuality.
You just need to be careful that Victor Hugo, Tolstoy, Max Planck, Mark Twain and Mozart are celebrated as great men too – not just soldiers, musicians and sports stars.
As a fellow Norwegian I agree.I feel that the problem in this country is that people accept to many things without protesting. Why else can you have all these ridiculous taxes and laws. I could probably go on forever, but you probably know all about this already.
The one thing that pisses me off is that everyone is so much in agreement. I would love it if people could just disagree for once.Still I have my own things, and live life like a ghost, and I love it.
Dear Curiepoint,
The statement you just made was too long and drawn out. You lost my attention towards the second paragraph. I am sorry to say that you did not impress anyone but yourself.
Hi I am in a bad situation. She lied about physical and verbal abuse. Then went to a domestic violence shelter. Now she claimed I violated the EPO and she has not allowed me to see my daughters for 9 weeks. I am depressed. All I care about is my kids. Please let me know how can I proove my innocence? I never touched the woman. And she is using the law to get to me, It’s all based on allegations! Please help!
Sad to hear Norway’s similar to the Norway that the Third Reich had absolutely no trouble entering and controlling. From Curvy’s post it looks as if Norwegians have farther to go before they arise from their coma.
I used to tell myself that the problem of female dominion over the male is predominately limited to English-speaking countries, since English is the purveyor of Feminism and the Violence Against Women Act. Yet apparently my assertion is wrong.
A warning to Curvy: A woman who defends men against obviously misandrist communities and organizations will herself soon become confronted with the nastiest and most vicious form of contempt. I have learned of other women who had the…uh…guts to speak out against injustice…only to receive death and bomb threats from Feminist groups and other such haters of anything male.
Stand by for your next REAL lesson about humans: when you challenge their power, you challenge their existence. When you challenge their existence…they will fight you to the death. Just be prepared and dig in.
Sorry to say but its true that feminism has destroyed America and the family.
Go ahead and run this through any search engine and you will find stats and stories.
Sun gets it. Now she is the epitome of womanhood. Boy if we could just clone her, we could build a great society of right thinking men and women and bring up great families! I repeat FAMILIES.
Sun, if you are reading this reply….good for you! You will make a good man very happy and he will do the same for you. We need more loving women who have the correct mind set, like you, in our lives. Thank you!
How refreshing! =D
Well, well. Curvys’ got it right. A little experience and a little self education. Here is another young lady that’s got it right. We from the so called harder *** (male), thank you. It is obvious you are now in a very loving relationship because you realize that men actually wish to please you, not to be ordered about at your whim. Works much better now doesn’t it? Thanks, you are a knowledgeable lady.
Shame on this girl! She makes us all look like materialistic cows. Talk about a Bridezilla. Unfortunately my brother had a wife like that and he is still tormented by her even after seperation because they have kids. He should have stayed single or found himself a tomgirl like me. What can you do.
So, I happen to be a wife and am wanting to leave my husband because HE is all the 5 things. Believe it or not, there are fun chicks out there with nagging, miserable to be with, control freak husbands.
I accompanied my brother on a visit to his divorce lawyer today. Don’t do it! Don’t get married!
Hah! Whats wrong with wanting the best!? I’m happy to say that I love my man for exactly who he is and he’s definitely not rich or gives me everything I need. We both struggle. I think a man would do the same exact thing. He’s not going to get to the second floor and say “hey let me just stop here this is good enough for me.”
I agree 100%. I’m a woman. Also I just came across this site and I was freaking out. I’m like who are these men married too?! I could never be such a cold hearted *****. I love to stand by my man!
Peace!
WOW. This has the extremes of both sides. Those “women” really disgust me. Im sort of confused as to where I stand though. Since the begining of man, woman have been treated as objects and pretty much second class citizens. Never considered to have intelligence and were kept in the kitchen and actually it still is like this in other parts of the world. Now we have more choices and blah blah blah. So of course now some woman take this power and go crazy.
I guess to sum it all up were becoming more independent of eachother. I think its great. But the bitterness between both of us makes me truly sad. TRULY. Men just please try and keep in mind there are good woman. I believe most the men on this site go for the same type of women. Women who were raised with parents who waited on them hand and foot. Never heard the damn word NO! So of course they are going to expect you to do the same. With their fake breasts and designer bags. I hate those *******! Argh!
When your going out to find a girl. Your going to see a group of girls drinking cosmos and all gossping. Yes they may be beautiful. WALK AWAY go find the girl whose dancing with her best girlfriend, smiling and having a good time with a bottle of beer in her hand:). That girl is me
Good luck guys
Scandinavian males are done. Finished. They have morphed into lemmings.
My conclusion…women will never fix this problem without being faced by utter ruin. Never. They will deny it right up until the end, right up until they are faced with total social collapse, and even then they will refuse to face their issues.
I wholeheartedly agree with every word.
Luckily, we might not have to wait much longer for this to happen. Waiting…
Okay I love to take care of my man but this woman seems to think that we should be there ‘effing servent. Geez can’t you pour your own orange juice?! lmao
I doubt the attorney’s assertions. The former Mrs. Bollea has tried to get Terry G. Bollea’s bank accounts and assets frozen. She is getting down and dirty and trying to punish Mr. Bollea aka. Hulk Hogan. She is trying to cash out on him. Let this be an object lesson to other men.
The other ***** wife of a celeb is the insane Heather Mills. Offered $265 million for 4 years of marriage by Sir Paul McCartney. The same wack job endorsing the idea of people drinking “rat’s milk”. She is one insane head case. Former p*rn model, former escort, convicted shop lifter, who thinks she is a celeb because she was married to Sir Paul. She now wants to devote herself to charity causes; of course to be funded by them as well.
Just wanted to leave a note giving my definite pat on the back for Kim, she is indeed one of the most level-headed women… correction, she is one of the most level-headed ladies I have had the pleasure to happen upon.
Unlike many of today’s women, Kim is not crass with an awkward vocabularly filled with misandrous slurs in every other sentence.
Kim is a credit to antimisandry.com, to the blogosphere as well as women, but most importantly to herself.
Good call.
I’m not out to impress you Sharon. I was countering your arguements. In future, I’ll keep it all to the terse phraseology that you seem to understand…
“Yeah, whatever.”
Ah, gee, thanks, Marx! And a special thanks to the team here for the mention and nice comments.
Just wanted to post in agreement with what has been said of Kim. She is a wonderful HUMAN BEING with a great outlook on life and more importantly, family.
Just when you are about to loose it; reading about all the evils that are male, just pop on over to Kim’s blog… it will make you feel almost human again… and in this era, that is a feeling that escapes most men…sadly…
Also note, I found this site by reading her blog… for which I do religiously.. pardon the pun Kim!
Now how the hell did I miss this site! Link placed!
I just love the shaming tactics… subtle yet typical….Even without a name attached to the post, you can pick them out easily…
Also,
Sharon states “…we are laughing about it………and then we simply move on. “
Yea, right.. thats why there are sites out there like this:
dontdatehimgirl dot) com
Women (most) NEVER move on… until she has made him pay somehow.
Sharon said:
“I think that guys like this have way to much time on their hands to sit and say all this **** about women. Not all women are like what he describes. Just like, not all men are bad. However, guys like this (and the majority on this website) are acting like spoiled brats not getting their way. They need to grow up and start acting like mature adults instead of acting like whinny babies.”
Ah yes, women “can have it all” but we mere males are “spoiled”…. thanks for clarifying that for us..
Jim,
The only thing I would change with the above opinions is to seek legal council FIRST, then the ultimatum… That way, if she gives you the routine (we all know what that is), you are prepared.
Sounds crass and defeating but shoot, look at where you are at now?
Prayers my friend.
I agree wholeheartedly about kids getting the most out of a financial arrangement, be it during a marriage or after it’s breakdown. But, to this end, the custodial parent had damned well account for every dime of child support that is being spent. It should be demonstrably proved to be for the child’s benefit directly. As it is, arbitrary numbers are set by the courts, and the non-custodial parent has no recourse. I’d rather give half my paycheck to my kids rather see one dime of it go to the ex.
Okay Amanda; you got me on the wedding dress thing. I claim ignorance with regards to that. I don’t intend to ever wear one. I have heard of them costing a huge amount of money, therefore my statements. I fully retract that one, though even $800 on a dress that only gets worn once (hopefully) seems pretty extravagant, but that’s me.
There are traditions and there are traditions. It used to be that we were expected to burn one-quarter of our livestock or yield from farming; giving it to G-d, as it were. We don’t anymore. Why? I suspect that it was found to be wasteful. Three month’s salary on a shiny pebble that was mined by slave labor is equally so. Let us not forget the tradition of a bride being a virgin on her wedding night. Where did that one go? I can remember reading family accounts from 100 years ago that spoke of the wedding guests inspecting the bed linens for blood to prove that the marriage was consumated while everyone else ate and drank, and that the bride was a virgin. Gotta love those traditions…not.
I’m not following the logical link of childbirth and diamond rings. Men didn’t design the birthing process to be painful, nor the carrying of a child to be as uncomfortable as it is. Therefore, how does a guy blowing a down-payment on a house equate? I’m not trying to be argumentative here. If there’s any enlightenment in any of this, I would welcome it.
Dear Pissed,
I think it reasonable to assume that nothing lasts forever, not even marriage. Material possessions however…well, they won’t last forever either, but they will likely last longer than a typical American marriage. As far as dying alone is concerned, everyo