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Why Do Men Cheat?

February 22, 2007

why do men cheat and wind up in divorce courtWhy do men cheat? Why is it, their biological desires seem to go unfulfilled and lead them to divorce court in the end? Every man is different, but the consensus is that s*x driven men are being denied at home by their wives. The wives are using s*x as a reward to keep their men in check. For example, if men refuse to help around the house, they will be denied.

Vanessa Lloyd Platt an attorney in the UK is amazed by how many women file for divorce right after the new year, in her post “Why we divorce lawyers are having a VERY happy New Year” for the Daily Mail she writes:

“For as long as I’ve been a divorce lawyer – some 29 years – it has always been the same; the first working day after the Christmas break is the busiest of the year. It’s a bit like the stampede on the first day of the January sales, except we have customers queuing up round the block for divorces, not discounts.

…In simple terms, it’s the fact that Christmas is one of the few periods of the year when husbands and wives are forced to spend a lot of time with each other. For the same reason, September is also a busy time for divorce lawyers, coming straight after the long summer holidays, and it seems to be the same complaints uttered every year.

A lot of people, especially women, get very excited about the build-up to Christmas and New Year, and have an image in their heads of a perfect family Christmas – a beautifully decorated house, stress-free cooking, charming children and a happy family playing board games in front of the tree.

Naturally, the expectation is far better than the reality, leaving many wives frustrated and disappointed that their dreams and hopes for the festive season have come to nothing.

Many women complain that their husbands spent most of the Christmas and New Year festivities in the pub and not in their company, depriving them of the love, attention and support so many of them crave.

Having believed the holidays were the one time that they could isolate their menfolk from work and other distractions, the distractions still won.”

Other women complain that their husbands do not do their fair share with the children, leaving them not only to do the shopping, cooking and clearing up, but also to provide endless entertainment for the little darlings as well.

And yes, American Women feel the same way as their UK counterparts. These women just can’t seem to understand that they cannot train a lion or a grizzly with this mentality. It’s simple. If a woman loves her man freely and shows him appreciation, her man will do whatever it takes to keep her happy. That’s the secret ladies! Write that down! Yet many women feel they can use the promise of s*x or the denial of s*x to manipulate and change their man’s behavior. That will never work. It goes against biology. Why do you think we are built this way? We are not built with wide child bearing hips? Why do you think we are physically the strongest of genders? It’s because we can go out into the jungle and kill things and bring it back to the cave for the family to eat. Don’t send us mail, citing examples of physically (hooked on roids) strong women. Yes we are aware of a tiny percent of the freaks out there who deep down inside have p*nis envy. Man is king of the jungle and will always be. To deny otherwise, is to deny our biological roles. It has nothing to do with Male Chauvinism.

Over at the Don’t Get Married Forum, some brothers of ours comment on the dillema:

thechief writes: “This is probably my favorite “theme”, if you will, to this board and the MRA movement as a whole. The fact that we aren’t losing out on s*x if we refrain from marriage because s*x eventually dries up in a marriage anyway. They stop giving it up. And as I’ve said before, I don’t even think it’s something conscious for most of them. At some point they just realize they have everything they wanted out of a marriage (the house, the kids, the security, etc, etc) and they don’t have to give it up any more. This, combined with a passive/aggressive streak I think most women have that makes them uncomfortable whenever their man is too happy or contented means that eventually they decide ‘OK, that’s enough s*x for you.’

Did they honestly think we wouldn’t mind?

The good news is that some prominent women (Dr. Laura, Jennifer Roback Morse) realize this is a problem and are encouraging women to rethink denying their men s*x. There’s also a body cream–the active ingredients are testosterone, estrogen and progesterone–that supposedly helps keep the female libido up. I’m an optimist, maybe there’ll be a sea change some day.

Until then, frankly, there are call girls. As I’ve said, I respect escorts more than most women because at least they’re honest about the fact they’re f*cking you for your money.”

The Reverend Porckchops (Always a favorite commented on our story “What Would Life Be Like Without Feminism?“: “The feminists at N.O.W. are working diligently to legalize p**********n everywhere in America, so once the feminists at NOW get p**********n legalized everywhere in America then the marriage rate should plummet to near zero.”

We got an email from M. Hunter in reply to the Reverend’s comments that we felt should be included in this main post:

“And why exactly is that a bad thing. If p**********n were legalized it would solve a lot of problems for both sexes. First of all suckers wouldn’t have to worry about buying their ‘dates’ a dinner and a movie just so they might get a kiss. That means that as a guy you are paying $55 just to get your foot in the door. If you’re lucky enough to g******d by the third date you’ve just spent $165 and that’s not counting the time you’ve wasted that could be put to other uses. I don’t know about you but I would much rather bang a hot 18 year old legal prostitute that has been tested for stds’ then try and pick someone up at a club (which is basically has to do with chance) or waste my time dating.

Also think about how legalizing p**********n would effect the dynamics of male/female relationships. A manipulative woman would no longer have “******** it would only backfire on her when her husband stopped by the local brothel for and banged a hooker just out of high school. For professional gold diggers (think Anna Nicole here) it would be harder to manipulate rich and emotionally gullible men. There would also be less marriages for *** or money. People might actually start getting married because they’re (gasp) in love. power”. If a wife wanted to try and steer a relationship by with holding

Legalized p**********n would be beneficial for females as well. The wouldn’t have to worry about being “used” for *** as much. Also in my opinion it’s much less likely that some sicko will brutally r**e a women if his choices for satisfying his urges extend beyond jerking off or paying some crack ***** that looks like a deformed rhino for some trim.”

And now for one of our brothers from Craig’s list to enlighten you on the joys of marriage.
You wonder why men cheat?

So I’ve had about all I can stand. How is it marriage allows you to take someone sexually hostage? Where the f**k do women get off dictating what is an appropriate amount of s*x? You say you just have too much going on and it’s not a priority but get your feelings hurt when you get cheated on, sorry not feeling the compassion like I should I guess.

Let me paint a picture. I am mostly normal, professional, successful, kind, generous, blah blah blah. I am in my second marriage. The first was as much my fault as hers but one theme that held true was the drastic drop off in s*x. What gives?

I have seen the scenario unfold many many times. You meet a guy and you f**k non-stop for months. It tapers off but both are feeling pretty satisfied by the quality of s*x and both agree that it will always be this way. In fact the guy is assuming this is a cornerstone of the relationship and takes this into consideration when he offers you a huge freakin’ ring you did nothing to deserve. Am I being too harsh? I don’t think so, about 1% of the population of the world has a diamond ring of 1 karat or larger. What makes you so special?

Let me take a different tact, if it costs $8,000 for a ring for 1 or 2 years of p*rnstar s*x so be it, just lay it out there, get it on the table that it’s a negotiable contract that comes due every couple years. You agree to be the nasty f*ck toy we fell in love with and we will buy you another ring or other appropriate trinket. That’s fair isn’t it?

But no… it doesn’t work out like that. Half a dozen years into your marriage you just don’t have time anymore. What used to be a fun quickie on the bathroom counter now is just a pain in the a*s. Hmmm where did we go wrong, how did mankind get duped like this? How can we warn the young men who are about to make the fatal mistake of putting a ring on your spoiled finger?

Do I sound bitter? Well I guess I do. Let me explain, I’m sure there’s more than myself in this unfortunate spot. My wife of 6 years has had s*x with me 12 times this year. Three of the last four times she said, “I’m just going to lay here, and I don’t want to do anything. Just hurry up and get it over with”.

The final insult came last week when she said I hate dragging it out, I just want to get my “O” and be done with it. (This takes 5 minutes tops)

I was empathetic for the first six years about how the anti depressants killed your s*x drive, I did the research, I recommended the different types that weren’t as libido killing as the SSRI’s. Enough is enough though.

Let’s do the math

5 minutes of s*x 12 times a year is one hour of s*x per year. ONE FREAKIN’ HOUR…

It used to be one hour or longer each time we had s*x when we were dating. WHAT GIVES?

Lets compare that to the 8760 hours in a year. Yes almost 9 thousand hours in a year and you can barely be bothered to f**k for one of them? You should be arrested, you should be fined, you should be publicly humiliated.

Yes, I am being a baby. I totally understand that I am being a raving lunatic.

Why? Because I have tried divorce once. Never mind that it was financially devastating, life altering, and hell on earth for years. None of that compares to the fact that it forever ruined my relationship with my children, regardless of what you may console yourselves with, divorce hurts everyone and no one is better for it unless you are in harms way by staying.

I am so sick of the spoiled, me me me attitude by today’s American woman that I could just bite myself.

During the dating phase you told us all your hopes and dreams which mostly consisted of a nice home, kids, a dog, family holidays, vacations, etc. We told you we liked all that but wanted a car or a motorcycle or a boat to go along with it.

Fast-forward half a dozen years. You have all the things you wanted, never mind the mortgage is oppressive, the activities for the kids cost hundreds of dollars a month, you b***h constantly about how you hate the house you absolutely HAD to have years ago. You have a medicine cabinet full of Paxil, Effexor, Vicodin, sleeping pills, awake pills, everything but a freakin’ horny pill.

You b***h that all your friends have the things you want and you are miserable yet the kids are the best kids in the history of the world, everyone is healthy, you drive an SUV like your friends, you get Starbucks regularly.

WHAT IN YOUR LIFE IS SO HORRIBLE?

You’re bored? You don’t have your own life? You feel over worked. Don’t get me wrong, raising children is the hardest job by far since it rarely affords a break but is it so bad? (Agreed that the kids are so spectacular because of your constant attention, but if you ignore your marriage it will go the way of a forgotten child too).

You could have been born poor, you could have to work 50 hours a week and take care of the kids, and pay for the mortgage on your own but you don’t. Instead you go to play group, you shop, you drive around looking at houses you dream of living in instead of the one you have.

I can see how you don’t have any time for s*x. I mean after all the guy who sacrificed his own hopes and dreams to finance yours probably isn’t worthy of some respect, admiration, and god forbid occasional s*x.

(Disclaimer time… I know us guys are a pain in the a*s to live with that goes without saying)

The moral of the story is that it’s just as much your fault as mine that I have taken a lover, she is everything your not. She is carefree; she acts like a total s**t because we have an understanding that I prize her above all things for just being her S****y self, not condemning her for it. She doesn’t accusingly look at me like I duped her into buying that freakin’ leper of a house, doesn’t tell me that I stole her life from her because she is raising children now. It is a total vacation from everything you have become.

The funny thing is I would totally be there with you hand in hand praising you instead of her if you would only treat me like a human again. If you would only show the slightest passion, if you would just quit trying to take any possible enjoyment out of life for me and everyone around you then maybe, just maybe we could have a good life.

And please, don’t give me the line about the medication and the councilors anymore, it worked for the first six years but it doesn’t fly anymore. You came from a good family, you weren’t abused, you weren’t neglected, you are attractive, funny, kind, sweet at times.

I’ve saved the best part for last.

I am angry at myself for letting life get here. I should not have loved you so much that I could never say no. I should have not married you so soon; I should have bought all the things I wanted before we married.

Most of all I hate that I am saying these things to a million nobody’s on the Internet instead of you. I would have, but we all know what happens when you drink, and you drink a lot these days.

Most of all I can’t believe I could be so stupid as to find myself here again. What did I cosmically do wrong? What did I do to p**s off God in a past life to deserve this?

I am so freakin’ pissed off at you for everything, why did you freakin’ have to freakin’ be this way? Why couldn’t you just freakin’ be sane, why? why, freakin’, why? I just want to kick a chair or break a window or something.”

Khankrumthebulgar from the Don’t Get Married Forum sums it up well: “When you hit 50 you look back and ask yourself was it worth it? With respect to my children yes. To Marriage HELL NO. All the intimacy is at the front end once the ring goes on the finger it comes to a screeching halt. And the affection diminishes. My Second wife used to ask me when we were Dating & Courting “Am I meeting your needs”? After 7 years of Marriage. “When will we go on Vacation to Paris”?? What will you get me for my Birthday, me, me, me.

I remember s*x, I remember I liked it. I remember when she wore Exciting clothes. I was just the Husband. I was just the Lifestyle Provider. It was all about what I provided her. Don’t do it Guys. Don’t all the Men who are posting on Craigslist, and elsewhere say the same thing. AW are c**p for wives. One in a thousand is worth it. What kind of idiot would buy a car at those odds?? Not very many. Why screw up your life with an ungrateful Woman who does not get it?”

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29 Responses to “Why Do Men Cheat?”

  1. Henry on February 22nd, 2007 10:13 am

    So many women are simply into TRAPPING men into marriage, getting pregnant & then switching into a “MOMMY MODE” with you as the virile male left to your own devices… s*x is so far removed from her mind that you may as well go out & find poon elsewhere… So mommy mode lasts until they kids are grown & gone… Then you can COUNT ON a divorce within 1-2 years after that.

    The last 5 years of my marriage, it was s*x about 7 or 8 times… I can so relate… Marriage… There’s nothing in it for men… Save all your money that you would have spent on that diamond ring… Buy YOURSELF something nice instead… Take a vacation without her… There’s plenty of single women vacationing too that you can hook up with… Vacation s*x after all does not count (in the mind of a woman).

  2. Reverend Porkchops on February 22nd, 2007 3:37 pm

    p**********n, while still illegal in most parts of America, is nonetheless already practiced almost everywhere in America. Trust me, the young ladies at the truck stops across America, going from truck to truck, are not selling the truckers girl-scout cookies. Since p**********n is already widely practiced all over America, M. Hunter’s comments are nothing more than wishful thinking. He paints his own utopia while being completely oblivious to the reality that p**********n is readily available across America, and yet we see none of the supposed utopian benefits that M. Hunter claims will result. The only thing legalizing p**********n will accomplish, is lowering the price, and not by much, if any at all. Also, M Hunter forgets to mention the downside of legalizing p**********n, which is where a man gets so used to paying for the company of women, that when he doesn’t pay for a woman all he can do is stutter and mutter like a foolish idiot before her, because he doesn’t know how to relate to the opposite s*x in any other way than “how much?”. Lastly, if you are a man and you agree with the man-hating feminists at NOW that p**********n should be legalized, I think that should raise some red flags in the ol’ tinker upstairs, if the ol’ tinker is still working anyways. They don’t call ‘em “man-hating” for nothing, and the man-haters want to legalize p**********n so they can destroy men in America by making as many men as possible bumbling idiots unable to relate to the opposite s*x in any other fashion than “how much b*tch?”. If that kind of life appeals to you, good luck with that. Myself, I aspire to a more full life, but to each their own.

  3. Systems1082 on February 23rd, 2007 12:47 pm

    I learned a valuable lesson for a lifetime when I was in my late teens-early 20′s. I dated a girl who used s*x to get whatever she wanted from me. Just once! Once this happened I immediately started my way down the road of not falling for it. She was from a very prominent family in TX and she demanded I take her to a formal dinner, and to buy her a bracelet. I couldn’t afford this at the time, but she didn’t care about this, or even me, it was ALL about HER. She embarrassed me in front of the jeweler so badly that he remembered me when I came back. I knew she would dump me if I didn’t get the bracelet, so I went back to see if I could get it on “payments” he did me one better, he said I’ll loan it to you with a returnable deposit. I then proceeded to dump her, call her best friend and took her to the dinner. This was bad enough for her, but when she saw the very bracelet on her friend she went batsh!t, and was escorted out of the ballroom. I returned the bracelet the next day and the jeweler asked how it went, “like a charm”. Long story short, if a woman even hints about holding/using s*x dump her on the spot. Once women have their only tool taken from them, they have no options but to play nice. Just don’t give in when they offer s*x and see the confused look on their faces. It’s priceless!

  4. mfsob on February 23rd, 2007 3:30 pm

    Exactly right – when you take away their p***y power, you take away ALL of the power of the modern American woman. And that’s a good thing.

  5. Systems1082 on February 23rd, 2007 4:42 pm

    “Exactly right – when you take away their p***y power, you take away ALL of the power of the modern American woman. And that’s a good thing.”

    I learned this lesson 20+ years ago and it’s made my life so much better. I only date woMEn between 21-26, they show the funniest looks when their “sexuality” doesn’t influence me because they know I’m not g*y. They don’t have power over me, and they know it.

    I read a post that woMEn have power over men via s*x, and men have power over woMEn via commitment, this is very true!. I stayed single and in power my entire life, no way was I going to let a woman take that or anything else away from me.

    Fellas, just remember she’s not the only one with power, as long as you have the commitment card, you’ll win out.

  6. Shauna on February 24th, 2007 3:30 pm

    I really wish that so many other women weren’t such jerks with their ridiculous whining, with their materialism, with their accusations and their blamegames.

    I mean, I find women to be pretty attractive people, just like guys do but I don’t think I could handle dating them.

    And, yes, even though I’m a woman, I can hardly deal with being around them. My mom’s crazy (she created a f*****g food allergy that doesn’t exist and constantly goes on about it), my sister’s a manipulative b***h, and I’ve pretty much lost touch with all my female friends because they’re so goddamned demanding (we have to have lunch dates, and hang out, and talk on the phone about boring s**t like makeup and shoes, and I’ll put up with that c**p if it’s a good friend who other than her vapid materialism is actually intelligent most of the time).

    The only woman I look up to and dearly love more than anything is my grandmother, because she freakin’ rocks. Smart, talented, selfless, giving, and fun to talk with.

    Why are people over there all the time? Why do people love the feeling of freedom and love that eminates from her house? Maybe it’s because she is one of the only sane and decent females I’ve been able to model my life and behavior off of. My dearest wish is to fulfill and care for anyone who enters my home, whether it be a small apartment or a full sized house. And I don’t find it “boring” to go watch an action flick or walk around, or whatever. And I have a huge f*****g s*x drive. I sometimes think that I would be better off as a guy, but I like my body shape too much. Heh.

    My friend “Dave” has this new girlfriend he met on the internet. Of course, she took pictures of herself in flattering angles, even though she’s probably about 300 pounds. And of course, her online profile and her personality on instant messaging are all about how she has such “high” self esteem, and is so independant.

    And then, later, he tells me that she wants HIM to bus over the hill to meet HER, because she’s NEUROTIC about meeting his friends, and can’t deal with them. She doesn’t like to drive, or go places on her own, and she’s still living at her parents while going part time to a JC and not working at all.

    And I’m sitting there just wondering what the hell he sees in her. And then it hits me. He hasn’t had s*x since his last girlfriend, and he’s horny as hell. He’s even made passes at me, but I just don’t get turned on by him, or I would have helped out.

    So of COURSE he’s going to go head over heels, riding on busses for hours to get some tail. He goes on about how much he “likes” her but he’s been communicating with multiple girls and wants to have s*x with any that are willing. Hell, legalized p**********n would do him SUCH a favor, because he’s gone out with so many f*****g psychos that I can hardly stand it. But then again, it’s not just their faults; because it’s obvious that he wants s*x, and the whole false pretense is pretty obnoxious and obviousl.

    Anyway, so I understand why men cheat. But you’ve also got to understand that there are lots of women who cheat because their husbands aren’t giving them the s*x that THEY want, or their husbands are manipulating them with s*x too. Yeah, it’s not as prevalent, but it happens, and it sucks.

    Bottom line, if you really hate your spouse, get out of the relationship. You may think that it’s “s**y” or “exciting” to have some a*s on the side, but it’s really S****y for both of you to be trapped.

    I would rather be a s**t and wanted than trapped by my possessions and unfulfilling relationships.

  7. Mike Hunter on February 24th, 2007 8:25 pm

    PorkChops:

    ”p**********n, while still illegal in most parts of America, is nonetheless already practiced almost everywhere in America… Since p**********n is already widely practiced all over America, M. Hunter’s comments are nothing more than wishful thinking.”

    I advocate legalized p**********n. Not illegal p**********n. There is a huge difference. You have obviously not lived in Italy, Spain, or any of the other first world countries where p**********n is legal and overly regulated in an attempt to discourage it (as in Nevada). I have.

    Legalizing p**********n has large tangible economic and social benefits for both men and women. I’m not going to go to the trouble of repeating my point’s verbatim here for the sake of one ignorant poster.

    Sufficed to say that the situation I wrote about above is the reality in other 1st world countries. Women were no longer able to hold men hostage with their Sexuality, men had an acceptable and affordable quality release for their s****l urges, and the guy just trying to g******d by a pretty woman didn’t have to pay though the nose just to get a shot at getting in her panties.

    “Also, M Hunter forgets to mention the downside of legalizing p**********n, which is where a man gets so used to paying for the company of women, that when he doesn’t pay for a woman all he can do is stutter and mutter like a foolish idiot before her, because he doesn’t know how to relate to the opposite *** in any other way than “how much?”

    Don’t project your problems onto other people. If you have trouble talking to women then that is your hang up. I suggest you deal with it. There are plenty of men in countries where p**********n is illegal such as the United States that have trouble talking to women. There are also plenty of men in countries that have legalized p**********n that are very comfortable around the opposite s*x. An individual’s social skills have nothing to do with the legal status of p**********n. Ironically most of the men who are too nervous to go talk to a girl in a bar or a club are the same men who are too nervous to go to a w***e house.

    ”Lastly, if you are a man and you agree with the man-hating feminists at NOW that p**********n should be legalized, I think that should raise some red flags in the ol’ tinker upstairs, if the ol’ tinker is still working anyways.”

    Each idea should be judged by it’s merits and not blindly accepted or rejected by what organization does or doesn’t endorse it. Since the burden of independent thought is too much for then you I won’t waste my time trying to explain the issue any further.

    System1082:

    “I read a post that woMEn have power over men via ***, and men have power over woMEn via commitment, this is very true!. I stayed single and in power my entire life, no way was I going to let a woman take that or anything else away from me.”

    That is true women do have power of men. The only problem is a woman especially a pretty woman has some degree of power over every man she comes into contact with. A man however ONLY has power over ONE woman IF she wants to be in a relationship with him.

    The problem with the hot single woman market as with every market is one of supply and demand along with the scarcity of resources. There is an extremely high demand for hot women that will put out. Almost every straight man wants to sleep with beautiful women. The problem is that there is a very low supply of hot women and an even lower supply of hot women that want no strings attached s*x.

    The result of this tight market is that women have a huge trump card. They control the poon and they can use this to manipulate men. This can be remedied however by legalizing p**********n. By doing this the market is freed of artificial barriers and the availability of hot young women willing to have no strings attached s*x rises. The result is that the market price of poon drops (to about $30 in my experience) and men no longer have to worry about wasting months of their time, hundreds of dollars, or going to the club and hoping to hit the jackpot.

    Legalizing p**********n would level the playing field. Pu$$y Power no longer has any power behind it because hot pu$$y is no longer a rare commodity and as such is less valuable. Both sexes can then interact with each other in a fair and equitable way and if one person makes ridiculous demands (such as a man paying for a $70 date and getting nothing it return or waiting 3 months to g******d) the other party will simply walk away.

  8. Taras on February 25th, 2007 5:36 pm

    I agree with the others who stated women’s only power over men is the promise of some nookie. After my bad experiences with the opposite s*x, I realized it was more than my own shortcomings behind them. I woke up to the fact that most American women are not worth the effort, and from that day forward, I became indifferent to them. Once a man doesn’t give a damn whether or not he gets laid with any given woman or not, she no longer has her main source of power over him. Thanks to p**********n, porn and other means, men have other ways of dealing with their pent-up s****l urges. The best weapon men have in the gender war is genuine or feigned indifference.

  9. Shauna on February 25th, 2007 6:47 pm

    Promiscuity is NATURAL….and even biologically ENCOURAGED.

    However, in today’s world, it helps to keep your health in mind too. As I said before, I would be WAY for prostitutes that are legal and kept up to high standards of cleanliness. I would far prefer a partner of mine to go do the horizontal tango with one of those people than to run off and leave or try to bridge the gap with desiring “two” families that he would divert time and money to.

    In that situation, I would rather go it alone, because it’s not worth having a spouse that isn’t fully invested in my family. f*****g on the side, however, that’s just f*****g and I’m not having a problem unless I find out I have HIV or herpes or some other disgusting viral s*d. Even the bacterial stuff is mostly curable. Emotional attachment and love to one or multiple others, however, is a big disgusting can of worms that I would hope any man in my life would have the good sense to leave alone.

    I found this interesting article on promiscuity and was wondering what you think:

    The Biology of Promiscuity

    … Male promiscuity has always been relatively easy to understand. While total parental investment needs to be pretty intense, men have a dramatically lower minimum energy and risk investment in children than women do; one index of the difference is that women not infrequently died in childbirth under pre-modern conditions. This means genetic lines propagating through us hairy male types have an optimum strategy that tilts us a little more towards “have lots of offspring and don’t nurture much”, while women tilt towards “have few offspring, work hard at making sure they survive to breed”…

    Source: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/promiscuity.html

  10. Curiepoint on March 12th, 2007 4:34 am

    A healthy relationship with women…what does that even mean? The merits and health of any kind of interpersonal relationship is subjective. Is it considered healthy that I merely employ no violence in my interpersonal skills, or should I just stop short of climbing into their clothes with them? There’s a very broad spectrum of what constitutes relating to other people, and women are, the last I looked, people; just not the kind of people I choose to associate with, by and large.

    p**********n should at the very least be de-criminalized. Those men who seek the dubious comforts of women via this mechanism should be able to, as this represents what the modern world demands of inter-gender relationships: transitory, temporary, and for a price. I don’t fear women so much that I stammer and waffle in my speech and manners, and I maintain that if one acts thusly, it’s because they have Imbreed fear and a preternatural anemic self-image, not because they avail themselves of prostitutes.

    It’s high time the law take its mitts off of how we relate personally to one another, short of not causing willful harm or impeding another’s life-course. The only reason that p**********n is illegal is because it enforces a kind of one-size-fits-all personal morality upon us. It is long overdue that people be trusted to their own sense of right and wrong. Legislating this does not endow us with a better sense of justice.

  11. Max on March 18th, 2007 8:12 am

    I like your way of thinking, as women demand far too much from men ie being the breadwinner, carer, s**y husband, etc. I find all that too far-fetched since a lot of guys due to their testosterone need more s****l stimulation than women, so both sexes are unequal sexually. Men are better off with single women or by themselves, at least they can get what they want. Women should stay with women as they understand each other better.

    Its not possible to stay with the same person everyday and be totally excited. So why not stay single, as fooling around within a relationship isn’t nice for both parties. I guess single is better. At least no-one gets hurt. Unless your values change!

  12. Reverend Porkchops on March 20th, 2007 6:11 am

    Men who want to see p**********n legalized, to put it politely, are imbeciles.

    Legalizing the exchange of s*x for money, nationwide, opens a huge pandora’s box. A government beauracracy would need to be set-up for the control of the legal p**********n. Perhaps it would become the new Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and o*****s. New taxes would be created, taxes on actual services rendered, taxes on brothels. New government workers would be hired to test workers for diseases. Despite testing, diseases such as HPV would still spread because c*****s do not stop HPV transmission, and you’d be hard-pressed to find/hire/keep a harlot who doesn’t have HPV as it is prevalent. New government workers would be hired to monitor the government workers that were hired to monitor o*****s for money, because as they say, “no honor among thieves”. From a legal perspective, all r**e laws would have to be re-modified, all s****l consent laws would have to be re-modified, all statutory r**e laws would have to be re-modified, otherwise it would only be a matter of time before some 16 year old girl brings her case before the US Supreme Court stating that she has a Constitutional right to make a living selling o*****s, and if p**********n is legal as a matter of law, it would go to reason that if a 16 year old can work at Wal-mart she can also work at Benny’s Brothel just the same. Age of consent laws will then be lowered, and lowered again, and lowered again. The legal ramifications of legalizing p**********n nationwide are even far more ranging, I just give the age of consent issue as one.

    All this is not “freedom”, and it’s not “liberty”, it’s nothing more than enslavement. All this because some geek who couldn’t g******d in a woman’s prison thinks that legalizing p**********n will allow the geek to finally “score” whilst eliminate or lessen the geeks probability of contracting an s*d — What a bunch of f’ing self-deluded dreamers. America has the loosest women in the world, whilst p**********n is still illegal in most parts of America. That’s why it’s apt to describe men who wish to see p**********n legalized as “geeks”. They are simply geeks who can’t g******d by the loosest women in the world. I can understand why American women would be in favor of legalizing p**********n, it’s because they want to put a price on something they have that’s worthless. A used-up, nasty dripping HPV-laden hole is a useless hole — putting a price on such a useless woman hole, is to such woman’s favor. That’s why the feminasties at NOW support legalizing p**********n, and I can understand that motive, but I can’t understand why any man but a geek would support putting a price on something that’s worthless, such is the height of stupidity. We have enough government beaurcracy, we don’t need more simply because some geek can’t g******d in a woman’s prison. Nothing further need be said, end of discussion.

  13. Timole on March 21st, 2007 1:53 pm

    (lol) love the picture associated with the story. Now that’s evidence of hump and dump, hit and quit.

  14. just me on March 31st, 2007 1:20 pm

    HEY!! that’s a bunch of c**p!! while it’s true that, once a woman is in a relationship, she feels she no longer needs to watch her weight, dress up and take care of herself. This happens more often than not. BUT!! then you have women like me.

    I have been in a relationship for 6 months and I STILL dress up, wear makeup and keep things “downstairs” trimmed and tidy. But lately, the boyfriend won’t touch me cause apparently he’s “got soooo much on his mind”

    It’s not just the women who don’t hold up their end of the s****l bargain when the honeymoon phase comes to a close. My man has all but lost f*****g interest, but, he likes porn and strip clubs. WHAT GIVES? Am I to assume that he’d rather wank to porn than be with a REAL, able and willing partner? Or that he’d rather go PAY to have some s***k rub her surgically enhanced “assets” in his face when he’s got a perfectly good pair of FREE breasts that he can do what he pleases with at home?

    What the f**k!?!?.. can some of you men PLEASE explain this to me?

  15. frank on April 3rd, 2007 9:08 pm

    To Just Me: I am happy to hear a woman like yourself still respects her man enough to look good for him. For the last decade, society as a whole has only been about women and their needs. And in more private lives, women have been all about themselves. In your case, Just don’t assume anything but have a talk with him instead.

    Oh by the way, there are no such a thing as free breasts or s*x offering from women! Men pay for them one way or another, sooner or later!

  16. Won't Get Fooled Again on April 19th, 2007 1:37 pm

    Yawn…same old same old. This article is just a re-hash of the same useless statistics and finger pointing that is promulgated as truth.

    Man cheats because of his needs. Wife divorces. His fault.
    Wife cheats because of her needs. Wife divorces. His fault again.

    The bottom line is simply this: Live out your life as a slave to the whims of so-called honest women by begging for scraps at her s****l table, or pay a pro and get what you want when you want it, however you want it. It’s your choice and your responsibility to see to your own needs. Just stop with the moral crusade against those of us who don’t care for your particular brand of bullsh*t morality.

    Better to be a paying customer than a beggar any damned day.

  17. b***h on May 17th, 2007 4:09 pm

    I don’t think I’ve ever read more filth in my life – I received this link from someone close to me who just got news from her husband he wants a divorce. This link was sent to the so-called poor b*****d who made the decision – all I can say is that you all have one-track minds. Out of every post, reply and article I’ve read, the issue is either s*x or money. I didn’t realize that so much of the male population was so shallow that they would allow these two things to rule their lives. When women don’t want s*x, it’s because they are tired from working all day, raising your children and cooking your dinner. And to be honest, you probably aren’t the ‘hunk of man’ you once were either, so who are you to make judgements on women who have possible beared your children, or have just plain put up with your s**t their whole lives? I say you are right on the money – dump her – do her the best damn favour you can ever do for her. And by the way, I’m a happily married woman (and I know I’m not the only one) who loves to be intimate and ‘stroke’ my man’s ego on a regular basis – s*x is not a problem – but in return, he gives me what I need. To have a happy marriage, you need to have some kind of emotional commitment or you’re right – you might as well go call a hooker.

  18. Virtuous on July 10th, 2007 9:05 am

    Instead of legalizing p**********n, how about legalizing polygyny? Then at least a woman can’t complain about her man cheating and will have a say in who he is with? For the man, he doesn’t have to worry about not getting “any” because if his first wife doesn’t feel like it, he has another wife to turn to.

  19. Curiepoint on October 25th, 2007 12:04 pm

    Hey great, So you’ve got a happy marriage where your man gets all the s*x he could ever want or need.

    By the way…what color is the sky on your planet?

    Even if what you say is the truth, what makes you think this is typical of women? It’s really very simple:

    s*x costs, one way or another. Whether it’s money directly, or a pre-configured lifestyle, or an early grave earned from hump-busting at work to afford it all, it costs. We like to pretend otherwise, but then maybe that’s how some of us can look into the mirror in the morning without retching.

    Men usually have money. Women usually have the necessary orifices. We each have what the other wants. You can moralize about the shallowness of men all you want, but it doesn’t do anything to deflect light off of women’s own shallowness. At least prosties and johns are cutting through the emotional blackmail. Just remember…men don’t pay the pros for s*x…they pay them to leave after the s*x is done.

    Women are tired from caring for their families all day long…HA!

    Like that happens.

  20. Sharon on November 29th, 2007 3:33 pm

    So guys with all this women bashing going on here, what is a woman supposed to do if she gives her hubby all the s*x he wants from her and he still does not live up to his part of the bargain? He still does nothing to make her happy? Seems like a double standard with all you men out there.

  21. Sharon on November 30th, 2007 6:02 am

    It all goes back to the old saying, “Do unto others that you would have them do unto you.” Treat everyone you come in contact with respect and kindness. And if you can make someones day along the way, without expecting anything in return, you will become a hero in their eyes. People take notice of sincere acts of caring and kindness. Eventually, you will meet the person who will truly love you for the wonderful person that you are and they will want to fulfill all of your wants, needs and desires. However, we all go through a few rotten apples before we find that perfect match. Don’t hate All women just because of one woman who may have hurt you in the past. Just don’t have anything to do with that particular person anymore, and give the rest a fighting chance. Not everyone is out to get you. Except maybe the ones whom you have gone out of your way to hurt. And you guys are just way too obsessed with having s*x. There is more to life than just your ability to relieve yourself by using someone else’s body.

  22. Curiepoint on December 9th, 2007 12:41 am

    Well Sharon, I would agree with you except that your premise is based upon a strawman arguement as to how men think and believe. You say that we should get over our hurts and s******g-overs and give others a chance because, as you imply, “Not all women are like that”. I would say that not all people are like that. There are lots of despicable women out there, and a lot of despicable men. It’s just a fact of life. We men can live with that, and often do regardless of the gender of those that visit outrageous behavior upon us. After all, who wants to go through life feeling hurt and betrayed?

    The main fallacy is that you attribute our attitudes to our being directly hurt by women, and nothing more. While all of us probably have had this misfortune, our attitudes are based also on our observance of the world around us. What happens to our brothers, fathers, collegues and friends also colors our world-view. So too does a keen observance of how the institutions of law, marriage, and relationships are envisioned and deployed amongst society. Most marriages are dissolved at the behest of women who feel justified through their sense of entitlement to personal satisfaction. Laws are enacted and enforced on a daily basis that automatically criminialize or at least marginalize men. Relationships…well, it wasn’t a man that derived the standard of the-personal-is-the-political.

    Contrary to what you may believe, we men can and do make our personal assessments based upon experience, observation, and provable knowledge. It isn’t all about our feelings being hurt. It is all a matter of survival. We men may be taking a dim view of what life serves up in intimate involvement, but then again we will survive more or less intact as a result. You can’t lose if you don’t play a rigged game, and you can win by playing a game of one’s own choosing.

    As far as s*x being a release valve, it is often true that this is a perceived effect, and that goes for women as well as men. But, if it were strictly that and nothing more, we could just as easily rub one out on our own, or bring in a hired gun to take care of it for us, and be perfectly content with this. That is to say, there would be no need for the anger and resentment that we feel. The sense of intimacy and love is highly prized amongst us poor troglodyte men despite what you may believe our motivations to be. When that is rendered down into a tool to manipulate us into doing something that you want, or reduced to the proportions of it being one more unpleasant duty to perform, it isn’t us men who are devaluing intimacy, it’s women; specifically, it’s wives.

    We don’t turn our backs on women as a whole. We look to other places where women have no interest in competing with us on personal terrain. We seek women who will respond favorably to those acts of kindness genuinely offered without thinking it a sign of dishonesty or wimpishness. Alternatively, we live our own lives according to our needs first, and others’ second without the diminishing return that is marriage and relationship. Once again, we will keep ourselves alive and intact whichever way we choose to go.

    Perhaps it’s the plain fact that we men actually do have choices that bothers you more than our so-called negativity?

  23. Sharon on January 27th, 2008 2:10 pm

    Dear Curiepoint,

    The statement you just made was too long and drawn out. You lost my attention towards the second paragraph. I am sorry to say that you did not impress anyone but yourself.

  24. Curiepoint on February 4th, 2008 5:18 pm

    I’m not out to impress you Sharon. I was countering your arguements. In future, I’ll keep it all to the terse phraseology that you seem to understand…

    “Yeah, whatever.”

  25. Sharon on February 13th, 2008 10:10 pm

    Dear Curiepoint,

    “terse phraseology”, is just a small example of the point I was trying to make earlier. However, you are correct in my saying, “Yeah, whatever.” I was not arguing. I was just stating a fact as I saw it. Your reply was too long and boring. I got tired of reading it. I apologize for my bluntness.

  26. English teacher on February 17th, 2008 3:10 pm

    Ouuuccch… I felt that one on Sharon’s behalf. That hit deep!… Impressive use of the English language Curiepoint. Your points were very clear and accurate to me.

  27. life on February 20th, 2008 3:06 am

    Ok to everyone. I am a 20 year old single mom. well not really single. I have a boyfriend we have been together for a year. about 5 months into our relationship he stoped touching me the way he used to. Now just because I have a kid doesnt mean I dont like s*x. I love him to death an having s*x really isnt what keeps me with him. I respect him to the greatest. He clams my child as his. he provides for us. I live with him and i dont pay for rent or anything. But with the money I get I take him out to do and get what her wants. I keep the house clean and cook breakfast lunch and dinner. I would love it if we had more s*x” but at the same time it doesnt bother me. At least I dont think. I dress up for him and dance for him. but I dont understand why he wont do anything woth me. He said is because of the baby. well she takes naps and there is a thing calld a babysitter. My question is what am i doing wrong ? And haing i law on his c**p is rediculose. if you want to have s*x like that then dont get married. Life isnt all about s*x. getting married and having a marrige should onl happen because you truly lov someone. You love being around them and talking to them. they should be your best friend. And you should have their back no mater what. maybe its just me but you make your life. If you arent getting the s*x you want an its a problem FIX IT!! if you married. and the s*x itsnt the way ou want it FIX IT> stop bing a p***y and work the s**t out. if dont communicate you can get anywhere.

    Editor’s note: Post is as-is, unedited.

  28. Sharon on February 21st, 2008 2:48 am

    Dear Life,

    It doesn’t sound like you are doing anything wrong, but have you asked your boyfriend the same question? Take your own advice and communicate your thoughts to him.

  29. dannie on March 8th, 2008 9:41 pm

    While I STRONGLY agree that s*x should NOT BE USED as a weapon, and in general, s*x should stay moderately the same, I advise you take in the idea that when women hit their later years, their libido drops. That’s biological, too. So research before you start yelling, or stupid women (and men) start arguing about it.

    Though I strongly agree that s*x is fun, have it all you want. I myself am a woman, and hate all this materialism that is associated with women. Why? Because a bunch of materialistic girls make other girls materialistic. Only few are left as NORMALCY that still want love, s*x, the whole shebang.

    If there’s a problem in a marriage, fix it, damn it. Don’t hold back on s*x!

    But be fair – research. Take in women’s biology as well as men’s. Don’t be so one-sided. Wikipedia is neutral, and it’s the best website for information. Consider that idea.

Did you know there is someone right now in willing to cheat on their spouse to have fun with you?

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